2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

I’m not confident Monahan will ever recover. Some think he might but I’m not one of them. Whether you think he will or not he no question was an anchor last season to whatever line he played on.

If we get a true #2 center the positive impact that player will have on our wingers we will find out quickly that this team is fine on the wing

You want to be a true contender we need a center

Recover from what? The injury that sidelined him last season? I'm sure he will eventually recover from that but he's no longer the player he was four years ago. It's not about recovery there as he's just no longer that player. He's one of those guys that peaked early and declined early. Outside of his ability to chip in goals around the net he has zero elite or even above average ability. He's on the same path as Frolik was at this point in his career where he went from 2nd liner to out of the league in two years. It ends fast for some players and it's a shame in the case of Monahan as he seems like a great guy and has been a great Flame.

[PepsiFree]

I still think Monahan could rejuvenate his career on the wing.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Finishing ability is a pretty important factor when your line is counted on for scoring. Love Coleman, but he struggles to finish which is why he's best served playing on the third line.

Wow this is a weird take on Toffoli. Did you see his "finishing ability" last season?

It was... not good. I don't remember a player in Flames history who had more chances and couldn't get the puck in the net. He was amazing at not getting the puck in the net, but having chances.

Coleman also struggles to a degree but Toffoli is trending towards line 3/4 not lines 1/2. Hopefully this summer he is working on his foot speed as that is a problem.

[rhino]

Originally Posted by stemit14

Not sure if I’d be too eager to spend large assets like a first round pick on Dvorak at this point. I was sort of intrigued by Dvorak when Tkachuk was here since they played so well in junior together but I’m not as interested now.


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Trade them the Florida 25 pick

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I still think Monahan could rejuvenate his career on the wing.

Flames should try that. It's in their best interest to try and get the most of him while he's on the roster.

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by rhino

Trade them the Florida 25 pick

I would save that pick for someone with a higher upside. That pick will only increase in value over time… especially if Florida takes a downturn in the next 2-3 years.

Not to say I wouldn’t trade it this year… just think it would need to be for a better player than Dvorak. Someone like Barzal for example I would be ok with trading that pick.


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[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

For sure ... but I also don't think we can discount how massive a part of the Backlund/Mangiapane/Coleman line he was this past year. Absolutely dominant two-way unit, one that I'd like to see stick together.

A really strong FA signing by the GM.

Ok, but the conversation was about top-six wingers. They need to be able to finish. Praising Backlund and Coleman for their defensive capabilities is great, but they both belong on the third line. We need a second offensive line, and right now we have Lindholm, Huberdeau, Mangiapne and Toffoli as legitimate top-six forwards. We need a top-6 C and W.

Monny might be able to reclaim his top-six abilities if both sides of his hip are finally healed, but that's not something I'd pin our championship dreams on right now. I'd love for it to happen for him, but I don't know if I'd bet the season on it.

[TheScorpion]

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for Coleman to score 25 this year. He's not *that* bad of a finisher and he takes a ton of shots.

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I still think Monahan could rejuvenate his career on the wing.

or make a trade with Columbus to reunite him with his buddy

[rhino]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Wow this is a weird take on Toffoli. Did you see his "finishing ability" last season?

It was... not good. I don't remember a player in Flames history who had more chances and couldn't get the puck in the net. He was amazing at not getting the puck in the net, but having chances.

Coleman also struggles to a degree but Toffoli is trending towards line 3/4 not lines 1/2. Hopefully this summer he is working on his foot speed as that is a problem.

I see you never saw Matthew Lombardi play 😂😂

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I still think Monahan could rejuvenate his career on the wing.

Me too - he's not a great puck carrier and isn't amazing at pushing play in the middle of the ice but he's actually quite proficient at puck retrieval and subtly winning board battles.

I think he's been trying to focus so much on his defensive play as a center that he also just gave up on trying to product any type of offense.

[Calgary4LIfe]

You want to hedge your bets of course, but at this point, nobody on here has any idea what exactly Monahan is capable of or isn't. For all we know, he is basically done. Or maybe he will be pushing Lindholm for the top line centre role.



The season before last Monahan came out scoring at a good clip, and then suddenly dried-up completely thanks to that injury he played through all season. Last season he looked terrible, but again, was that him being hampered by something until he got his other hip injured?


Personally, I look at Monahan as a Christmas present left under the tree. I have no idea what is inside of it, but I look forward to opening that present up and seeing if it is a Moneyhands or if it is barely a 4th line centre. Nobody here knows for sure which one it is, or how close to either extreme he may be.



What he does deserve is a shot - he played through a tonne of injuries and multiple surgeries to try and help this team win.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Flames should try that. It's in their best interest to try and get the most of him while he's on the roster.

I can already see the player fighting relentlessly along the wall to win puck battles.....even when healthy this is not something that would have been in his wheelhouse.

Said player is kaput and has been for many seasons.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Flames should try that. It's in their best interest to try and get the most of him while he's on the roster.

At very least it couldn’t hurt. Saves his wrists from taking a huge number of faceoffs, gives him a little less in terms of defensive responsibilities. If he got back to being a 30/30 guy it’s a huge win. If it doesn’t work then at least you know what you have as he enters free agency.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

At very least it couldn’t hurt. Saves his wrists from taking a huge number of faceoffs, gives him a little less in terms of defensive responsibilities. If he got back to being a 30/30 guy it’s a huge win. If it doesn’t work then at least you know what you have as he enters free agency.

Honestly even as a 20/20 guy playing middle 6 minutes that's still a big help on the roster.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

Wow this is a weird take on Toffoli. Did you see his "finishing ability" last season?

It was... not good. I don't remember a player in Flames history who had more chances and couldn't get the puck in the net. He was amazing at not getting the puck in the net, but having chances.

Coleman also struggles to a degree but Toffoli is trending towards line 3/4 not lines 1/2. Hopefully this summer he is working on his foot speed as that is a problem.

.3 GPG as a Flame. That's better than anyone not on the top line outside of Mangiapane, who was .42. It puts him as a finisher around where Panarin, Copp, Stutzle, Teravainen, Burakovsky, Eberle, etc are.

Edit: It was also clear Toffoli wasn't ready for the sudden change in altitude.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for Coleman to score 25 this year. He's not *that* bad of a finisher and he takes a ton of shots.

Barring injury I fully expect him to have a bump in production this season. It's not uncommon for players to take a full season to acclimate to a new city and team. The energy and hussle is there and the goals will come.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by home_sweet_dome

Don't understand all the talk and desire to add another winger. Flames already have:

Huberdeau
Mangi
Toffoli
Dube
Coleman
Pelletier
and Coronato coming in the near future

There's no need to spend any more assets and cap space on wingers. Yes we lost 2 stud wingers and replaced them with 1 but reconstructing the team with better D (done with Weegar) and stronger up the middle is a much better blueprint for success than having 2 stud, expensive wingers anyways.

The true need is a center to play behind Lindholm. Ideally would be more of a playmaker than scorer as all our wingers are more finishers than play makers with the exception of Huberdeau.

With the rest of the roster as currently constructed, the Flames are a legit Cup contender the day Backlund is legitimately the #3C and the only way that happens is adding a top 6 C, not winger.

Huberdeau is the only clear top line guy
Mangiapane is a top 6 winger. As is Toffoli
Coleman is a middle 6 guy. As is Dube, unless he can elevate his game.
Pelletier is probably a 3rd line guy, but he needs to prove that.

So yeah, they need another top 6 winger.

But as I said... OR a #2 C.

Right now, Backlund is the 2C and we're not sure what Monahan is. If we add a 2C, pushing Backlund down to the 3rd line, that strengthens our middle 6 in much the same way.

The Flames need a top 6 RW, or they need a #2C. Either way, it significantly improves the forward depth and allows guys like Backlund and Coleman and Dube to be in roles that they can excel in, as opposed to having to punch above their weight class.

[Enoch Root]

Here is how I would rank our forward dept...

1) Huberdeau
2) Lindholm
3) Mangiapane
4) Backlund
5/6) Toffoli
5/6) Coleman
7) Dube
X) Monahan

The problem with this list is that Mang thru Coleman are too high. They all need to be pushed down one, with the acquisition of another player.

Right now, the depth on defense is great, with 4 top 4 Dmen, and Kylington knocking on the door. But if you move out Hanifin to upgrade the forward depth, you've just robbed Peter to pay Paul.

They need another forward either through free agency, or via trade with prospects. Or with Kylington as the base.

[Monahammer]

Monahan for voracek with small +