'The Walking Dead- TV show ONLY! Only spoilers allowed are about PAST TV episodes!

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by fotze

Interesting article contrasting the comic and the show.

7 scenes that should have been in the show.
http://io9.com/5707668/7-scenes-from...en-in-the-show

I really think the writers were severely limited by budget as evidenced by the ridiculously short 6 episodes. Hopefully they incorporate some of the depth mentioned in the article with more money.

Spoiler!

I hope they introduce the guy they talk about in the article who is morally opposed to killing the zombies so he keeps them in his barn. Cool.

the CDC "explosion" was all i need to watch to see just how small of a budget this show was working with. that terrible cgi was probably the worst part of the episode for me

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by TylerSVT

No i dont want a gore fest. But i would like to think that it is an important part of the process.

Killing zombies is cool, best-friend love traingle isnt.

Just would prefer the series to stay away from melodramatic storytelling.

I'm not sure I understand. You want better writing, but less narrative?

I mean, the writers could easily just do zombie-fights for 42 minutes. That would make their lives really easy. Every script would look like this:

OPENING CREDITS
(Rick enters)
Rick: Shane! Zombies!
(Shane enters)
Shane: Die, Zombies!
(Rick and Shane fight the zombies. The zombies almost get them, but then they don't.)
CLOSING CREDITS

Personally, I like a little bit of story to go with my gory. I like this show; it has tons of potential in my view.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by fotze

Interesting article contrasting the comic and the show.

7 scenes that should have been in the show.
http://io9.com/5707668/7-scenes-from...en-in-the-show

I really think the writers were severely limited by budget as evidenced by the ridiculously short 6 episodes. Hopefully they incorporate some of the depth mentioned in the article with more money.

Spoiler!

I hope they introduce the guy they talk about in the article who is morally opposed to killing the zombies so he keeps them in his barn. Cool.

I am all caught up on the comic series and it is one of the best reads you can get out of a series in graphic form.

Comparing the TV show with the comic, very little action is similar. They leave the quary/forest area just outside Atlanta in 2 comics after Rick catches up with his family. Clearly the 6 episodes are to extend the storyline. Not to mention the particulars are different. Knowledge about zombies don't really come around till about issue 35 or so. NOT the first season. The CDC didn't happen as well so that is new. It was a storyline "hope" but that was about it.

I was meh on the finale. I get that it means nobody has a clue about what's happening... Except the french. But why got immediately to this storyline!

Anyway, I'll still be watching next year as this creative step in TV is what I would like to see, so I will continue to support it.

Thanks AMC.

PS I so don't want to talk about details and differences too much because I don't want to be a spoiler... Read the comic!

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by Stranger

What song was that? I hadn't heard it until then.

Tomorrow is a Long Time

[Tinordi]

What reason would the CDC have to automatically blow up if it didn't have any more power? Why is that a failsafe?

Doesn't. Make. Sense.

[SeeBass]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

What reason would the CDC have to automatically blow up if it didn't have any more power? Why is that a failsafe?

Doesn't. Make. Sense.

the place is crawling with deadly virus and other germs the explosion was to kill everything in it with intense heat in case the building couldnt safely contain them as the power was gone.

[Tinordi]

Sure but why not just incinerate the holding lab where all those viruses exist and keep the data, research, etc? The existing failsafes to make sure the viruses didn't escape the lab must be pretty damn good because you know people work in what looks like to be a housing facility. Can't even have them escaping into the rest of the building. So, just destroy the lab.

What if power is accidentally cut? Does everyone in the building just instantly die? It's built as a bunker why not just lock the building down if it loses power?

Why does it need to explode? Wouldn't it be more dangerous to blow the building up as it appears and potentially send viruses airborne?

Because it's dramatic.

[corporatejay]

[QUOTE=Tinordi;2832148]Sure but why not just incinerate the holding lab where all those viruses exist and keep the data, research, etc? The existing failsafes to make sure the viruses didn't escape the lab must be pretty damn good because you know people work in what looks like to be a housing facility. Can't even have them escaping into the rest of the building. So, just destroy the lab.

What if power is accidentally cut? Does everyone in the building just instantly die? It's built as a bunker why not just lock the building down if it loses power?

Why does it need to explode? Wouldn't it be more dangerous to blow the building up as it appears and potentially send viruses airborne?

Because it's dramatic.[/QUOTE]


You must hate every single movie and/or TV show on the planet. You probably also like dry toast.

[Sliver]

I haven't read this thread yet so this might be a repost, but I have watched the whole series. The brunette chick (wife of the one cop, screwing the other cop with the messed up ears) is not nearly hot enough.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I haven't read this thread yet so this might be a repost, but I have watched the whole series. The brunette chick (wife of the one cop, screwing the other cop with the messed up ears) is not nearly hot enough.

You're not thinking like a survivor of a zombie apocalypse. Compared to his other options, she's hot as hell.

[Tinordi]

[QUOTE=corporatejay;2832189]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Sure but why not just incinerate the holding lab where all those viruses exist and keep the data, research, etc? The existing failsafes to make sure the viruses didn't escape the lab must be pretty damn good because you know people work in what looks like to be a housing facility. Can't even have them escaping into the rest of the building. So, just destroy the lab.

What if power is accidentally cut? Does everyone in the building just instantly die? It's built as a bunker why not just lock the building down if it loses power?

Why does it need to explode? Wouldn't it be more dangerous to blow the building up as it appears and potentially send viruses airborne?

Because it's dramatic.[/QUOTE]


You must hate every single movie and/or TV show on the planet. You probably also like dry toast.

Not true at all. I love drama, that's why I watch TV shows. I also love things to make sense.

And no, the tired lines of "this is a zombie show" meaning that shows about zombies don't need to make sense, and "just turn your brain off" don't really address the point which is, it's bad writing and takes away from the show.

[corporatejay]

[QUOTE=Tinordi;2832440]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Not true at all. I love drama, that's why I watch TV shows. I also love things to make sense.

And no, the tired lines of "this is a zombie show" meaning that shows about zombies don't need to make sense, and "just turn your brain off" don't really address the point which is, it's bad writing and takes away from the show.

I agree 100%. People's reactions in dire situations need to be consistent. I don't find the writing in this show to be terrible, I would say it's probably about average for a cable drama. But the production value is top notch.

[TopChed]

I think the reason a lot of people are so bothered by the details of this show are just that they see the potential. If some of the acting and writing were slightly better, it'd be a great show. Instead, there are at least a few moments in every episode where I just cringe and look away. It really detracts from an otherwise compelling concept.

[icecube]

Originally Posted by TopChed

I think the reason a lot of people are so bothered by the details of this show are just that they see the potential. If some of the acting and writing were slightly better, it'd be a great show. Instead, there are at least a few moments in every episode where I just cringe and look away. It really detracts from an otherwise compelling concept.

Q F T. See boat conversation, grandma stopping mexican standoff and so on and so forth. It is pretty entertaining but I have higher expectations.

[TylerSVT]

Originally Posted by TopChed

I think the reason a lot of people are so bothered by the details of this show are just that they see the potential. If some of the acting and writing were slightly better, it'd be a great show. Instead, there are at least a few moments in every episode where I just cringe and look away. It really detracts from an otherwise compelling concept.

Yea exactly.

How can shane go from being like some super chill guy to being someone who points a gun at rick and then tries to rape his wife... That character arc is really really badly done.

And the women who plays Rick's wife... She annoys the crap out of me, she looks frail as hell and she is just terrible at acting. Least believable character on the show.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by TylerSVT

Yea exactly.

How can shane go from being like some super chill guy to being someone who points a gun at rick and then tries to rape his wife... That character arc is really really badly done.

A zombie apocalypse might do different things to people. Also, when they thought Rick was dead, he was in love with the wife and when Rick returns, he doesn't know how to feel, how to act. That changed him dramatically. Totally believable if you ask me.

[Ark2]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

A zombie apocalypse might do different things to people. Also, when they thought Rick was dead, he was in love with the wife and when Rick returns, he doesn't know how to feel, how to act. That changed him dramatically. Totally believable if you ask me.

I agree. I think, for the most part, the characters have been pretty believable. Some people here seem to expect that every character is only going to follow through with a completely thought out, logical set of actions, but that in itself is not very realistic. Virtually the entire human population is dead and now roaming the earth in some meat starved stupor. I would expect that these characters act irrationally. Yet, despite this allowance, I can't think of anything that is that difficult to believe in terms of character development. Shane has been rejected by a woman that he was clearly in love with and she won't even talk to him. He gets pissed drunk (we as the audience have never seen him drunk before so perhaps he is naturally violent in that state) and he goes to far before getting the sense slapped back in him. How that is a character arc that is "badly done" is beyond me. If anything, I enjoy it because now adds another element of potential physical conflict for the main protagonist. Is it great writing? No. But it is a fair cry from all the flack that it gets in this thread.

[Stranger]

I think next year will only get better. The producers obviously saw the writing could be improved and took fairly quick action in resolving it. We'll get to see a full season also instead of 6 episodes. Lots to look forward too.

[jammies]

I find I don't care about any of the characters except Rick. That's the biggest flaw in the show for me.

Things I find extremely annoying:

- You're in America, and you are having trouble finding guns and ammo? Really?
- Same with vehicles. There's millions of abandoned vehicles for the taking, and you can't find just one other motorhome instead of going into the city to get a new hose for your ramshackle piece of junk?

That's just lazy, crappy writing. Sure, I get that it can't be all about massacring the mobile dead, but forcing "drama" by intentionally gimping your protaganists for no logical reason is stupid.

Anyway, I'll watch next year, but it was no better than mediocre, and could have been so much better. They need characters that don't make you think they'd have trouble overcoming a rude waiter, never mind the zombie apocalypse.

These people are supposed to be survivors. The two cops, the hillbilly, and maybe the asian kid qualify; the rest of them should have been zombie fodder long ago.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by jammies

I find I don't care about any of the characters except Rick. That's the biggest flaw in the show for me.

Things I find extremely annoying:

- You're in America, and you are having trouble finding guns and ammo? Really?
- Same with vehicles. There's millions of abandoned vehicles for the taking, and you can't find just one other motorhome instead of going into the city to get a new hose for your ramshackle piece of junk?

That's just lazy, crappy writing. Sure, I get that it can't be all about massacring the mobile dead, but forcing "drama" by intentionally gimping your protaganists for no logical reason is stupid.

Anyway, I'll watch next year, but it was no better than mediocre, and could have been so much better. They need characters that don't make you think they'd have trouble overcoming a rude waiter, never mind the zombie apocalypse.

These people are supposed to be survivors. The two cops, the hillbilly, and maybe the asian kid qualify; the rest of them should have been zombie fodder long ago.

LOL you hit the nail on the head, however, there is an "adjustment period" ,so wait until the bada$$ mofo's start to come out of the woodwork with these characters... It does happens soon in the timeline from the comics because it's a zombie world and people die because of their choices. If they keep to the storyline a bit more next season you should not be disappointed.

I have zero issue with the family issues and drama in the show. It's hard to imagine how one would react in such a scenario, but hopefully the fecal matter splatters on the fan like it does in the comic...