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Old 12-06-2010, 07:41 PM   #341
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Everyone that is pissed about the writing should be happy to know that the writers have been fired for next season.
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Old 12-06-2010, 07:48 PM   #342
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Not going to read the thread to avoid spoilers since I haven't started watching this, but huge ratings for the finale... 6 million viewers and a 3.0 rating in adults 18-49 which is huge for cable, especially AMC.
Huge rating indeed, bigger then the Series Premiere.

Anyways, some of these comments are funny, and it's no wonder network executives barely gives shows more then two weeks to find an audience nowadays with how quickly some are writing it off.

The first season (6 episdoes) of the Office were average, but it showed potential, I think it's the same with The Walking Dead. IMO it's a very good show, but it can be great. but some of the comments about how horrible it is.. after 6 hours of programmings.. yikes.
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One thing's for sure, whether you like it or not The Walking Dead is the talk of the television world and it's ratings are excellent.

I turned on the radio this morning and they were talking about The Walking Dead finale, we've got an 18 page thread on a 6 episode season of a show....I'm excited to see what they can do with a full season.
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Huge rating indeed, bigger then the Series Premiere.

Anyways, some of these comments are funny, and it's no wonder network executives barely gives shows more then two weeks to find an audience nowadays with how quickly some are writing it off.

The first season (6 episdoes) of the Office were average, but it showed potential, I think it's the same with The Walking Dead. IMO it's a very good show, but it can be great. but some of the comments about how horrible it is.. after 6 hours of programmings.. yikes.

In a world where TV shows are dominated by good writing (See Lost, House etc.) Its the writing that is the most important part. ####ty actors can be looked over if the content and dialogue is good but when those aspects fail... the show fails.

Look at Heroes, for all its cool premise and good effects it failed because the writers didnt know how to make a television show intresting as well as intelligent. If Walking dead follows the same course it could easily be cancelled.

People started watching this show because of the ZOMBIES... hell that is why i wanted to see it. If they deter from that too much than it will be cancelled.
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Old 12-06-2010, 10:06 PM   #345
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I guess it depends on what it is you are looking for out of the show. I think it's fantastic that it has come to TV. I am a huge fan of the comics, and as I was reading them, I felt that they would make a good, gripping tv series. You'd need a few changes and tweaks (of course) but overall, I really liked the concept.

One of the things I found was that I was really starting to wonder about the title as the comic went on. At first, I assumed it meant the zombies, of course.

But as I got deeper and deeper into the series, I began to think that it really mean the main living characters. Without giving too much away, if you really think about it, the people they were are dead. They now have to make their lives go in a radically altered world where all the rules have changed.

That's what I find fascinating about this, and why I keep reading the comics. I hope that the tv series stays (mostly) true to this, and explores this aspect of humanity, instead of just 'giving up' and going with the 'rah rah shoot all the zombies in the head and win' crowd.

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Old 12-06-2010, 10:12 PM   #346
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I was reading IGN and apparently it is false that the writing staff got fired. One of the exec. producers (not Darabont) said it was just a rumor and they weren't fired.
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In a world where TV shows are dominated by good writing (See Lost, House etc.) Its the writing that is the most important part. ####ty actors can be looked over if the content and dialogue is good but when those aspects fail... the show fails.

Look at Heroes, for all its cool premise and good effects it failed because the writers didnt know how to make a television show intresting as well as intelligent. If Walking dead follows the same course it could easily be cancelled.

People started watching this show because of the ZOMBIES... hell that is why i wanted to see it. If they deter from that too much than it will be cancelled.
I don't understand where you're coming from. People started watching because of the zombies and, last I checked, it's still a zombie apocalypse. The modern world has ended and doesn't look like it will recover. The show is a classic man versus environment premise and it is different than anything else on TV at the moment. It sounds like you want a zombie gore-fest, which this show will never be. Plus, if it was non-stop zombie action, most people would tune out (excluding males aging 12-22).

Maybe I'm alone on this, but I wouldn't classified LOST as a well written show.
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I don't understand where you're coming from. People started watching because of the zombies and, last I checked, it's still a zombie apocalypse. The modern world has ended and doesn't look like it will recover. The show is a classic man versus environment premise and it is different than anything else on TV at the moment. It sounds like you want a zombie gore-fest, which this show will never be. Plus, if it was non-stop zombie action, most people would tune out (excluding males aging 12-22).

Maybe I'm alone on this, but I wouldn't classified LOST as a well written show.
No i dont want a gore fest. But i would like to think that it is an important part of the process.

Killing zombies is cool, best-friend love traingle isnt.

Just would prefer the series to stay away from melodramatic storytelling.
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LOST struck me as a make it up as we go along story.
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The finale was...awful. Terrible acting, no real character development, no action, and no suspense. The CDC felt like a huge filler scene.
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Old 12-07-2010, 09:05 AM   #351
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The finale was...awful. Terrible acting, no real character development, no action, and no suspense. The CDC felt like a huge filler scene.
I would have to disagree on most of your points. Of course some of the acting was suspect... This is a cable TV show, if you want top notch acting from all the cast go to an indie movie festival. I thought one of the biggest points of the finale was how they included the flashback to the hospital and showed Shane literally putting his butt on the line to save Rick, who was his best friend. They show him hiding from the military and walkers, and it's up for interpretation wheither he actually did or didn't hear a heart beat... Begs the further question of why, then did he block the room if he didnt?

I felt that this directly tied into the group dynamic. Rick's wife feels betrayed and used by Shane because she based her decisions on Shane's information that he [Rick] was dead. By showing this flashback it somewhat vindicates Shane [maybe not quite as we thought] for believing that Rick was dead. So, after the last episode it's pretty much clear that this whole situation is a time bomb waiting to explode, especially because Rick and Shane are naturally foiled against each other for: leader, alpha male, husband and father, which is made worse since Shane was all of these things before Rick returned.

I think the CDC symbolized alot more than just "hey- lets find another place to hide, oh #### we have to leave." The CDC was a major government institution, which, if any besides perhaps NORAD would survive, would be it. By going there they find out that society and government really has completely broken down. There is no rescue, there is no help, there is no cure... It really is up to you to forge out your own survival, and perhaps your worst enemy is not the walkers, but the lack of goods and supplies to survive, which is turning the surviving humans against each other. The theme that appears to be followed is that cornered humans are the worst of all, and that the people in the group are actually the walking dead.

But hey, most of this stuff was made abundantly clear, so far. If you haven't picked up on this stuff so far perhaps this series isn't for you.
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Old 12-07-2010, 09:11 AM   #352
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I didn't mind the finale, but I hated the "whisper in the ear cliffhanger" crap.

I hate garbage like that, lazy lazy storytelling.
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Begs the further question of why, then did he block the room if he didnt?
I'm sure this will sound nutty but I daily daydream about zombie apocalypses and how I would react in certain siutations and I think I have your answer.

If that was my buddy, dead in the hospital room, I'd block the door simply so the walkers can't eat him. I'd rather he slowly rot than be the victim of a feeding frenzy.
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I'm sure this will sound nutty but I daily daydream about zombie apocalypses and how I would react in certain siutations and I think I have your answer.

If that was my buddy, dead in the hospital room, I'd block the door simply so the walkers can't eat him. I'd rather he slowly rot than be the victim of a feeding frenzy.
I wonder how many do this, I've thought about it to and have my plan all laid out. I'm sure if it actually happened the plan would go to hell in a hurry though.
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BTW:

There is an Ipad App that allows you to download the graphic novels onto your Ipad. It is about half the price of the print version and is great if you need your Walking dead fix for the next 10 months.

Also...

I can not remember the last time I was into two TV shows at once. I have tried time and again to get into cable TV series, but just find i lose interest after awhile. With Boardwalk Empire and The Walking Dead I could not wait until Sunday Evening to watch them.

I found the finale of both episodes fantastic.
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There is an Ipad App that allows you to download the graphic novels onto your Ipad. It is about half the price of the print version and is great if you need your Walking dead fix for the next 10 months.

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I can not remember the last time I was into two TV shows at once. I have tried time and again to get into cable TV series, but just find i lose interest after awhile. With Boardwalk Empire and The Walking Dead I could not wait until Sunday Evening to watch them.

I found the finale of both episodes fantastic.
You can get it on the ComicX App. It's sold in individual comics or in packs of 12 or 24. I read the first one last night. The first episode of the series definitely goes in depth a lot more than the comic, the comic has no back story about the man and his son at all.
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Didn't like the finale.

Really crappy writing and acting probably the worst episode of the series so far. Characters are wooden. Loved that they killed off the token african-american woman, ugh.

My planning mind was saying, how on earth could a facility be zoned inside a city that was designed to go nuclear if it ever lost power? Stuff like that bugs me. Just completely disconnected from reality and really easy to remedy. Just have that facility located out in the country somewhere, like you know where it would normally be in real life.

You would think that a facility that technologically advanced would go into "power-saving mode" a little earlier than an hour before it lost fuel. Also, it doesn't explain the main scientist character who's a complete contradiction. Why is he even researching cures when he knows he has 3 days of power left and the facility goes sky-high? He seemed like a normal rational guy, why didn't he tell the stowaways about the power issues at the beginning? Or if he is maniacal and wanted to kill them with him all along, why does he suddenly change his mind after no more influential arguments from the Cop? There wasn't a game changing event for him to release them, he just does. Just a completely unbelievable character and sequence of events.

Also, I hate TV-land/movie-land computers. Why can't we just have a regular lab with computing terminals instead of some completely fictitious mainframe and operating system.
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My planning mind was saying, how on earth could a facility be zoned inside a city that was designed to go nuclear if it ever lost power? Stuff like that bugs me. Just completely disconnected from reality and really easy to remedy. Just have that facility located out in the country somewhere, like you know where it would normally be in real life.
Nope...not at all like real life...

I think the only part I considered filler in the finale would be the whole brain scan part. That didn't explain a single thing. It was basically 5-10 mins of the guy explaining that after you die, you come back. Ya think? Also, surprise surprise, patient 19 is his wife! Wow that was unexpected *rolls eyes*

Other than that I thought it was great. Playing Bob Dylan at the end while they were fleeing was cool too.
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I still do not get how someone can not like this because of the "unrealistic" parts. It is a TV show about a Zombie Apocalypse.

It is refreshing that it is being done in a different way.
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Nope...not at all like real life...

I think the only part I considered filler in the finale would be the whole brain scan part. That didn't explain a single thing. It was basically 5-10 mins of the guy explaining that after you die, you come back. Ya think? Also, surprise surprise, patient 19 is his wife! Wow that was unexpected *rolls eyes*

Other than that I thought it was great. Playing Bob Dylan at the end while they were fleeing was cool too.
What song was that? I hadn't heard it until then.
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