[Rumour] LeBrun: As of right now, sounds like Andersson only wants to sign extension with VGK

[Locke]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Looks like CBJ is not going to be a potential landing spot for Ras now

https://twitter.com/user/status/1939797169914962303

[Vinny01]

Less teams with interest and less options for other teams the rubber needs to meet with road with this trade.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Thing is though I don't even think I'm overly negative - usually I try to look at things positively and am generally favourable to what Conroy is doing.

But to me this specific situation was a very predictable outcome that could have been avoided had they just been a bit more proactive 12 months ago.

Hopefully the Flames can still garner a good return, but overall the asset management of this organization has been too reactive historically, so it's easy to get frustrated when it feels like the same mistake continually gets made in terms of walking players to free agency / the final year of their contracts and not returning full value.

Conroy has been better at this for sure, but still frustrating to hear that the Hanifin scenario is happening with Andersson now too.

Never had you on my list as negative.

I do think you've made some assumptions about what the team isn't doing that don't line up for me, but I certainly don't have alternate proof to say you are wrong.

Sorry if I offended. Was never talking to you specifically.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Bingo

It does work both ways.

Every freaking day.

Big difference though? One side is trying to be somewhat hopeful. The other looking to post negative things every chance they get.

If you see that equal in value ... fill your boots. I see one as pointless, and the other the very definition of being a fan ... that is backing something with hope and enjoyment.

Sorry if pointing that out once in a while to try and stop the title wave of know it alls ruffle your feathers.

And my points aren't putting anyone on "blast" any more than anyone else's opinins.

Thanks for the kind words on being sick. Just wiped out a weekend. Has certainly made me grumpy.

On a positive note, I haven't seen the "this is a cause for Conroy's immediate dismissal" post yet in this thread.

[ResAlien]

Assuming the list of teams interested in Rasmus was accurate it's starting to feel like they've moved on, probably tired of the games. Vegas has to be right out now after the Marner trade, does Rasmus say F it and agree to revisit the LA thing or do we march into next season with what seems to be a deteriorating relationship and hope he stays healthy through the TDL?

Is it ok to say that here? Not sure what's allowed or not when it comes to takes on the team anymore.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by D as in David

On a positive note, I haven't seen the "this is a cause for Conroy's immediate dismissal" post yet in this thread.

Nor "this is the most Flamesy thing to do"

[TherapyforGlencross]

Andersson to Vegas for Dorofeyev and 2027 1st
Coleman to Toronto for their 2028 1st
Kadri to another team for their 2026 1st

Calgary tanks next year, gets top 5 pick.

Make playoffs in 2-3 years, prospect board keeps replenishing during playoff time.

ahahaha

[SuperMatt18]

These guys are just re-signing in Columbus, so I'm not sure it changes a ton. That was likely always CBJ preferred option to not give up more assets.

When I look at the market I think it goes:

Extension Possible:
Vegas
Los Angeles
Carolina
Tampa Bay

Maybe an Extension:
Detroit (Lidstrom was his favourite player)
Boston
San Jose
Utah

Pure Rental:
Buffalo

Something like that. I do think the Marner signing and cap pressure will make things tougher for Vegas, which might force him to be a bit more open minded.

[DJones]

Half retained Andersson for a year is still very valuable.

Give a team a year to convince him to sign as well

[nik-]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Assuming the list of teams interested in Rasmus was accurate it's starting to feel like they've moved on, probably tired of the games. Vegas has to be right out now after the Marner trade, does Rasmus say F it and agree to revisit the LA thing or do we march into next season with what seems to be a deteriorating relationship and hope he stays healthy through the TDL?

Is it ok to say that here? Not sure what's allowed or not when it comes to takes on the team anymore.

You're just not allowed to show any emotion. Emotion about your team as a fan is dumb.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by nik-

You're just not allowed to show any emotion. Emotion about your team as a fan is dumb.

And who said that?

[joejoe3]

Originally Posted by TherapyforGlencross

Andersson to Vegas for Dorofeyev and 2027 1st
Coleman to Toronto for their 2028 1st
Kadri to another team for their 2026 1st

Calgary tanks next year, gets top 5 pick.

Make playoffs in 2-3 years, prospect board keeps replenishing during playoff time.

ahahaha

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I like how these long time Flames go out by doing the team a solid (in the worst sense)

This one team destination thing never used to happen, did it? Feels like it should be treated like tampering.

[YyjFlames]

Lots of gloom here, and maybe some of it is right that Ras "should" have been traded last year, but this is still a fantastic year for holding the top available trade chip -- extension or not.

Most teams have a good chunk of cash available because of the rising cap, and so we've seen a flurry of re-signings as teams hold onto their stars knowing that the top free agent market is going to be limited.

Looking at cap wages, almost all teams still have plenty of cap space available to fit Ras in this year and give him a fat raise next year. The market is still going to be there for him for sure as there's no one else available of his caliber.

Just like with how the Markstrom trade went down, I don't think we need to overthink this or be disappointed or excited about rumours until something gets done or we get into the season. I just know the Flames are in a good place to be trading a guy like Andersson this year.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I admit I question why someone is a fan when they seem to have such utter disdain for the team they cheer for that I have to wonder why they do it, including when they seem to have moral objections to how the club is managed.

I never tell people if they should or should not feel.
It seems like you get confused between someone challenging your opinion v. telling them they can't have it.

More than that, optimism is a choice. I find certain posters, are just a constant pattern of negativity. I think that should be challenged particularly in an area like sports that is supposed to be fun.

And I'll be blunt. You are an example of that. You show up from time to time, as you did the last week, and just post a stream of negative posts that don't add to the discussion at all.

I have all the time in the world for people who don't share my opinion, but make an effort to provide an interesting perspective. And this site is blessed with a lot of those people.

I don’t really understand why it’s any of your business why a complete stranger is or is not attached to a hockey team, or what their reasoning is for continuing to follow. Seems like a topic you’re best to just leave on the table unless you have a good idea of who that person is, which makes me question whether your intentions really are just benign curiosity as you claim. Seems more to me like you want the easy ammunition against someone whose opinion you don’t like so others can dogpile on later. But that’s actually not what interests me.

What does interest me is that you apparently have this hit list of people who you follow and claim they add nothing of value, which I would claim comes from a pretty heavy dose of confirmation bias on your part. Not denying that I involve myself in my fair share of negative drive by’s, and not that it’s any of your business but I find just putting my thoughts out there and verbalisimg them helps me process those negative emotions because I’m on the spectrum. And I post sporadically because I am not in good health. Again, not your business but since you insist on bringing it up.

But I also do engage in good faith discussion when I feel engaged by the topic, and I know plenty of people on your little list do as well. Just something to reflect on, you don’t have to understand it or even accept it, but consider that people are complex and it’s not your job to judge them.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

These guys are just re-signing in Columbus, so I'm not sure it changes a ton. That was likely always CBJ preferred option to not give up more assets.

When I look at the market I think it goes:

Extension Possible:
Vegas
Los Angeles
Carolina
Tampa Bay

Maybe an Extension:
Detroit (Lidstrom was his favourite player)
Boston
San Jose
Utah

Pure Rental:
Buffalo

Something like that. I do think the Marner signing and cap pressure will make things tougher for Vegas, which might force him to be a bit more open minded.

Sending Andersson to Tampa Bay when he wants to go to Vegas would be a nice book-end to sending Hanifin to Vegas when he wanted to go to Tampa Bay.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

I don’t really understand why it’s any of your business why a complete stranger is or is not attached to a hockey team, or what their reasoning is for continuing to follow. Seems like a topic you’re best to just leave on the table unless you have a good idea of who that person is, which makes me question whether your intentions really are just benign curiosity as you claim. Seems more to me like you want the easy ammunition against someone whose opinion you don’t like so others can dogpile on later. But that’s actually not what interests me.

What does interest me is that you apparently have this hit list of people who you follow and claim they add nothing of value, which I would claim comes from a pretty heavy dose of confirmation bias on your part. Not denying that I involve myself in my fair share of negative drive by’s, and not that it’s any of your business but I find just putting my thoughts out there and verbalisimg them helps me process those negative emotions because I’m on the spectrum.

But I also do engage in good faith discussion when I feel engaged by the topic, and I know plenty of people on your little list do as well. Just something to reflect on, you don’t have to understand it or even accept it, but consider that people are complex and it’s not your job to judge them.

First off that's interesting and I'll take that into account. Don't want to offend.

But isn't there a way to express concern without a sardonic drive by? I think it would get you a more leveled response that might alleviate your concerns?

[GioforPM]

How many teams trade guys with two years left on their contracts (unless it's for a better player)?

[CKPThunder]

If this report is true, can’t the Flames be equally as petty? Wait until July 1 and look at Rasmus new updated NTC list and then talk with LA about a deal, if Kings aren’t on the list, with an extension. If LA is good with 8 years @8.5M then re-sign Rasmus at that amount and trade him to the Kings. This would blow any goodwill and possibly cause future players to insist on a full NMC with Flames but it would be petty and ruthless. This hinges on Kings offer truly being a whopper which I also have my doubts about.

Something like this can be done correct?

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

How many teams trade guys with two years left on their contracts (unless it's for a better player)?

Quite often? We traded our #1 goaltender last year for a young defenceman and futures?