[News] UPD: Tkachuk arbitration hearing set for Aug 11

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by fleury

What's the indicator for Tkachuk looking for a short term deal (and what are you defining as short term)? If it's 4 years I think that's perfect. I don't want any player locked up greater than 5 years when they're not a franchise player. That's me personally. I wasn't happy that we didn't get assets for Gaudreau but an 8 year deal is a tough pill to swallow. If Tkachuk wants a 4 year deal @ $10M, sign him and deal him at the draft.

I'd be pushing for 5, takes him to 29 and gives him another big money contract as a UFA for his career earnings. Anything less than that becomes harder to swallow. BUT Imo, the move the flames made to arbitration tells me Tkachuk was indicating he was going to go for the QO unless something stupid was sent his way.

Bad news from insiders leaning into the trade. This has to be one of the worst weeks I can ever recall as being a fan. Fitting, as a flames fan, that after we had the best season many of us can ever recall (which still ended in a bitter playoff disappointment) we are treated to a week of our young superstars kicking us in the nads. All things in balance, with the balance being 51% pure disappointment, 48% snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, and 1% ethereal glimmer of hope.

[agulati]

This has got to be the worst possible timeline. Hopefully Tre is able to salvage something in the return he gets for Tkachuk. In hindsight, I wish he had entertained the offers he might have gotten for Tkachuk during the draft.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Interesting that Boomers convinced Chuckys gone . I dont known if things changed for him since leaving but he's always been pretty accurate on Flames business.

You have to be pretty ignorant to think otherwise. All signs point to him not wanting to be here . I am not sure if 10M even gets him. At the very least he wants to get to UFA. That’s his goal the moment Treliving stupidly signed that last contract

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by AC

https://twitter.com/user/status/1549272578916634625

https://twitter.com/user/status/1549276704698355712

Why is boomer still using his 960 handle? Are you not able to change your twitter handle? Not really surprising that Tkachuk isn't going to re-sign in Calgary. He was always a bigger risk than Gaudreau to leave. Anyway hopefully the trade gets processed within this window.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Why is boomer still using his 960 handle? Are you not able to change your twitter handle? Not really surprising that Tkachuk isn't going to re-sign in Calgary. He was always a bigger risk than Gaudreau to leave. Anyway hopefully the trade gets processed within this window.

Not surprising at all, the Flames had a year to sign him to a longterm deal. They did not need an additional 17 days to get it done with the certainty of an arbitration hearing to put the heat on both parties. I suspect Tkachuk is fine with signing a 9.6 million dollar deal that the arbitrator hands out. Take whatever trade offer comes in and call it a day.

[devo22]

I might be in the minority here, but to me it's not the end of the world if it ends in a trade. The moment John decided to take his talents to Ohio, I wanted them to go the rebuild route anyway because I really don't see how they could contend without John. I'd rather burn it down than overpay players in order to be in "not good enough, not bad enough" purgatory for years, and if Tkachuk forces our hand in that regard, so be it.

[bluejays]

Forgive me for asking but is there speculation Tkachuk is now being put up for sale? I haven’t seen any rumours out there. On one hand I see this as a good move assuming they get proper value, considering without Gaudreau he’s likely to amass as many points again, thus making his value the highest it’s ever been. It also kickstarts a rebuild. On the other hand, rebuilding seems to be best done in stages where you don’t strip the team down to nothing. You just trade your best aging assets in stages year after year for two or three seasons until you’re ready to make that next push. Like the leafs or sens did. I just want Tre to maximize the assets returned. Hopefully ownership sees this team has lost its best player and needs to start from the draft to build a future sustainable roster.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by devo22

I might be in the minority here, but to me it's not the end of the world if it ends in a trade. The moment John decided to take his talents to Ohio, I wanted them to go the rebuild route anyway because I really don't see how they could contend without John. I'd rather burn it down than overpay players in order to be in "not good enough, not bad enough" purgatory for years, and if Tkachuk forces our hand in that regard, so be it.

It's probably a good thing in the big picture because the team has a clean slate to rebuild with no boat anchor contracts. Leaves a lot of options open as they could take on the tail end of some bad contacts to accumulate draft picks and build a lot of draft capital.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It's probably a good thing in the big picture because the team has a clean slate to rebuild with no boat anchor contracts. Leaves a lot of options open as they could take on the tail end of some bad contacts to accumulate draft picks and build a lot of draft capital.

Absolutely.

Many here have laughed at what the Hawks have done, but in a couple of years, they'll have stocked themselves with a lot of prospects, draft picks and cap space. They somehow manage to land Bedard next year, watch out.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by devo22

I might be in the minority here, but to me it's not the end of the world if it ends in a trade. The moment John decided to take his talents to Ohio, I wanted them to go the rebuild route anyway because I really don't see how they could contend without John. I'd rather burn it down than overpay players in order to be in "not good enough, not bad enough" purgatory for years, and if Tkachuk forces our hand in that regard, so be it.

While I agree if Tkachuk is traded they should go rebuild. My gut however tells me if Tkachuk is traded flames will not be trying to get back 1st round picks and prospects .

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

While I agree if Tkachuk is traded they should go rebuild. My gut however tells me if Tkachuk is traded flames will not be trying to get back 1st round picks and prospects .

I would hope the Flames still remember how the Phaneuf trade turned out. I don't have any issues with a quality roster player coming back and it may have to be done anyway for the other team to take on Tkachuk's salary but if the team isn't getting high draft picks then Treliving is a worse GM than many of us could have imagined.

[Mindtravellee]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Absolutely.

Many here have laughed at what the Hawks have done, but in a couple of years, they'll have stocked themselves with a lot of prospects, draft picks and cap space. They somehow manage to land Bedard next year, watch out.

Nah, somehow Bedard will end up on a cusp team that just misses. NYR with laf all over again

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Mindtravellee

Nah, somehow Bedard will end up on a cusp team that just misses. NYR with laf all over again

That could be us.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by fleury

Forgive me for asking but is there speculation Tkachuk is now being put up for sale? I haven’t seen any rumours out there. On one hand I see this as a good move assuming they get proper value, considering without Gaudreau he’s likely to amass as many points again, thus making his value the highest it’s ever been. It also kickstarts a rebuild. On the other hand, rebuilding seems to be best done in stages where you don’t strip the team down to nothing. You just trade your best aging assets in stages year after year for two or three seasons until you’re ready to make that next push. Like the leafs or sens did. I just want Tre to maximize the assets returned. Hopefully ownership sees this team has lost its best player and needs to start from the draft to build a future sustainable roster.

2023 draft is very good to rebuild but probably too late for the Flames

[Moneyhands23]

I feel gutted.. team can't keep its best players. Nobody want to be here it's just so ####ty. Worse than Winnipeg.

What a gut punch this offseason is.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

So two teams that come to mind for obvious reasons when talking about trading Tkachuk, are Ottawa and St. Louis.

Some of the names tossed around include Batherson, Kyrou and Thomas.

All three of them are CHL players who were members of the 2018 WJC Team Canada team that is embroiled in controversy. Have any of them come out with statements outright denying any involvement?

This has to be considered if Tre is talking Tkachuk trade with either of these teams.

I don’t see Ottawa as an option. Tkachuk might want to play with his brother but I don’t see him leaving here to another Canadian city. It is his brothers team I always thought if they went somewhere it would be together to a new team.

I think the top 2 spots would be New Jersey or St.Louis. The Jersey GM is a family member of Tkachuk and he is right with Hughes. St.Louis is obviously home.

Blues won’t be trading Thomas who just inked an 8 year extension last week. Kyrou definitely would be a piece that would be included. The Blues could ship Tarasenko to the Islanders to free up space or include O’Rielly in the deal since he has no trade protection and is in the last year of his contract. It also opens up the C for the Blues who may want to give that to Tkachuk. The Devils would likely include their own RFA headache in the deal in Bratt plus some of their rosiest capital. I wonder if there would be a chance if they would send their captain here as Hischier would be a nice get for Calgary. Hischier+Bratt for Tkachuk+Monahan/Backlund?

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Why is boomer still using his 960 handle? Are you not able to change your twitter handle? Not really surprising that Tkachuk isn't going to re-sign in Calgary. He was always a bigger risk than Gaudreau to leave. Anyway hopefully the trade gets processed within this window.

It's easy to change your Twitter handle but not easy to change your Twitter handle and remain verified

[Flames_F.T.W]

It's getting a little depressing for sure. Us fans could really use a win right about now. An extension for Tkachuk would be ideal and immediately dispel the doom and gloom assumption that stars don't want to play here. A homerun trade involving Tkachuk would also be a nice consolation prize for this offseason... But a Dion Phaneuf style trade seems more likely at this point.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I don’t see Ottawa as an option. Tkachuk might want to play with his brother but I don’t see him leaving here to another Canadian city. It is his brothers team I always thought if they went somewhere it would be together to a new team.

I think the top 2 spots would be New Jersey or St.Louis. The Jersey GM is a family member of Tkachuk and he is right with Hughes. St.Louis is obviously home.

Blues won’t be trading Thomas who just inked an 8 year extension last week. Kyrou definitely would be a piece that would be included. The Blues could ship Tarasenko to the Islanders to free up space or include O’Rielly in the deal since he has no trade protection and is in the last year of his contract. It also opens up the C for the Blues who may want to give that to Tkachuk. The Devils would likely include their own RFA headache in the deal in Bratt plus some of their rosiest capital. I wonder if there would be a chance if they would send their captain here as Hischier would be a nice get for Calgary. Hischier+Bratt for Tkachuk+Monahan/Backlund?

I am sure they let Bratt go with no problem

If Treliving can get both Bratt and Hischier, he may have saved his job

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

I am sure they let Bratt go with no problem

If Treliving can get both Bratt and Hischier, he may have saved his job

lol

So unless Treliving can do the impossible he should be fired?

No wonder the fire Tre crowd won't shut up if this is the type of thing they expect him to be able to do.