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Old 01-10-2018, 10:20 AM   #361
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Nobody would be paying any attention to this event if it was 18+. And anyone who thinks anxiety around child safety is a socially conservative thing is ignorant of the social climate around anything to do with children in 2017. Some of you 20-somethings and singletons need to get out of your bubbles.
Nice deflection but that's not what you originally said. Do you have any evidence that these concerns are more prevalent among the left than they are among conservatives?
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Yep, that social climate. I hate it too. But anyone who thinks it's a socially conservative attitude is kidding themselves. It's not older, rural, religious, tax-hating Albertans who won't let their kids in a pool without a life jacket, or let them walk home from school. It's the educated, liberal suburbanites - the same people who vote for candidates who campaign on building more schools and improving access to health care.
I thought only mouth-breathers lived in the suburbs. The true enlightened liberals live in the inner city.
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Old 01-10-2018, 10:29 AM   #363
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Statistics and logic go out the window with anything to do with children. Anyone who is a parent today knows that. Parents in this city won't even let their kids take public transit, and we're surprised they're not okay with naked kids at an open-to-the-public swim party?
We shouldn't be surprised.

We also shouldn't give their concerns any value.
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Old 01-10-2018, 10:41 AM   #364
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Nice deflection but that's not what you originally said. Do you have any evidence that these concerns are more prevalent among the left than they are among conservatives?
Men tend to be more conservative than women, and yet judging by the petition it's mainly women who are against this event.

http://www.threehundredeight.com/201...nd-gender.html

But no, I'm not going to dig up more evidence. Maybe the person who said the opposition to this event demonstrates how conservative Calgary is should offer up some empirical data.
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Old 01-10-2018, 10:41 AM   #365
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The people getting up in arms about this are mostly soccer moms, the core demographic of provincial NDP and the federal Liberal voters.
If we view this thread as a small sample, this is false, as a conservative ideology or political stance is more common amongst those opposed. Further, the loudest in opposition are as I described, conservative RJWs.

Please provide any other sample.

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Old 01-10-2018, 10:54 AM   #366
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Men tend to be more conservative than women, and yet judging by the petition it's mainly women who are against this event.
Tremendous non-sequitur. Bravo.
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The outrage over this planed event shows how conservative much of Calgary is. Similar events exist all over of Canada and have run safely and successfully without becoming front page news for days.
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To be fair, similar events have been running in Calgary for decades without becoming news as well.

It’s more a case of the growing conservative trend of looking for things to be upset about. As mentioned earlier, the equivalent of the SJWs they mock. The rise of the regressive justice warrior!
Both of you decided it was conservatives against this event with pretty much no evidence to back it up, but of course because it fits your narrative it's fine as a quick drive by to talk about how 'regressive' conservatives are.

I'm not saying Cliff's right but I'm not sure this has to do with political ideology.
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Nice deflection but that's not what you originally said. Do you have any evidence that these concerns are more prevalent among the left than they are among conservatives?
Do you have any evidence this is more prevalent among conservatives than liberals? Because that was the original comment.
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Hey guys, since Larry Heather says this event is bad, then it must be. Youve all got Larry's support so those against the event must be on the righteous side of this argument.

https://twitter.com/CalgarySenate/st...97960126218241

Well that confirms it. Northcruk is Larry Heather.
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He may the most batcrap crazy man in this city.....its actually quite amusing.
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Both of you decided it was conservatives against this event with pretty much no evidence to back it up, but of course because it fits your narrative it's fine as a quick drive by to talk about how 'regressive' conservatives are.

I'm not saying Cliff's right but I'm not sure this has to do with political ideology.
I was extrapolating the evidence in this thread to speak to a wider trend. My evidence is, quite literally, right in front of everyone.
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Aversion to public nudity is fairly widespread. It’s not really a political thing. Just from a practical and health matter there’s a reason why underwear is reasonable.
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Aversion to public nudity is fairly widespread. It’s not really a political thing. Just from a practical and health matter there’s a reason why underwear is reasonable.
I need a source on this one. There is no way there are health benefits to wearing underwear.

Improving the lifespan of pants and perhaps reducing odor but I can't see any health benefits.
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Aversion to public nudity is fairly widespread. It’s not really a political thing. Just from a practical and health matter there’s a reason why underwear is reasonable.
In addition to what GGG said, we’re talking about swimming. There is nothing that is stopped from entering the water by wearing a swimsuit. The only exception being children who are not potty trained, but one would assume that the pool’s policy regarding the use of diapers in the pool isn’t being waived in this case
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I need a source on this one. There is no way there are health benefits to wearing underwear.

Improving the lifespan of pants and perhaps reducing odor but I can't see any health benefits.
I see you've already switched to the superior method of cooking bacon in the oven.

It's not really a health benefit, but I don't like that "loose" feeling when sans under garments. I am guessing that flopping during movement is also why women would choose to wear a sports bra while running.
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I was extrapolating the evidence in this thread to speak to a wider trend. My evidence is, quite literally, right in front of everyone.
Hah, what? Look at your post. Please explain how this is a comment directed at the posters in this thread, rather than an attempt to lay the opposition to this at the feet of conservatives in general.
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It’s more a case of the growing conservative trend of looking for things to be upset about. As mentioned earlier, the equivalent of the SJWs they mock. The rise of the regressive justice warrior!
Also, I'm not sure where this regressive justice warrior thing came from. I've never heard or seen that term used until today, when I've seen it used in posts from three of the more left-leaning people on this forum. Did someone send you guys all a memo to start pushing this to see if it'll catch on?

EDIT: Incidentally, it should be mentioned it's not like it's some new trend that a large segment of uptight conservatives find random, pointless things to get outraged by. Remember all that controversy about video games? Even if it were only repressed social conservatives who were upset, they've been upset by dumb stuff forever.
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I need a source on this one. There is no way there are health benefits to wearing underwear.

Improving the lifespan of pants and perhaps reducing odor but I can't see any health benefits.
Not health benefits to the wearer, but health benefits to society. Contain the poop rather than smearing it everywhere.
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In addition to what GGG said, we’re talking about swimming. There is nothing that is stopped from entering the water by wearing a swimsuit. The only exception being children who are not potty trained, but one would assume that the pool’s policy regarding the use of diapers in the pool isn’t being waived in this case
I mean aversion to displaying one's self in the nude.
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I've never heard or seen that term used until today, when I've seen it used in posts from three of the more left-leaning people on this forum. Did someone send you guys all a memo to start pushing this to see if it'll catch on?
Yeah, it came up in our left-leaning quarterly meeting where we discuss what we’re going to do on the internet.
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Hah, what? Look at your post. Please explain how this is a comment directed at the posters in this thread, rather than an attempt to lay the opposition to this at the feet of conservatives in general.
It IS an attempt to lay the opposition to this at the feet of conservatives in general. I only said I used the reactions in this thread (and the posters they came from) as evidence of that wider trend.

Sometimes you miss very clear things in an attempt to start an argument. It’s very strange.
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