Obviously not. I think it's something they are trying use as a framework to make decisions, not some hard and fast rule that they live and die by.
Someone should ask them directly at a season ticket holder session.
Giordano is the third or fourth best player on this team right now. It makes no sense to restrict themselves like that even if he is the captain.
I agree though, it would be nice to get some official clarification of this. I still think it's just people remembering how they structured Brodie's contract and are now just assuming that's how things are. It's one thing to have salary in one year structured to be like that, it's quite another to want the cap hit to be lower.
if there was a cap structure (internally) the gio cap is too low. They're basically saying they will never have a "superstar" or comparable "franchise player" long term on this team only until they reach that payday and then they're gone.
I personally think Gaudreau will make more than anyone else on the flames and I am fine with that. The fact that we get to watch him every night is best summed up by Mastercard..................priceless. Management know it, as do the owners.
You gotta pay to play.
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As dumb as I think an internal Gio cap is, I wonder just how impactful salary means to these guys from a leadership perspective? If you pay Johnny more, does that actually undermine Gio's ability to be the final say from the players perspective. Johnny knows at that point he's more valuable?
If it does, I could understand the desire to keep the cap hit lower. Johnny and Mony have already proven they aren't yet mature enough to lead off the ice and make smart decisions. Maybe too early to put them in that spot
if there was a cap structure (internally) the gio cap is too low. They're basically saying they will never have a "superstar" or comparable "franchise player" long term on this team only until they reach that payday and then they're gone.
I personally think Gaudreau will make more than anyone else on the flames and I am fine with that. The fact that we get to watch him every night is best summed up by Mastercard..................priceless. Management know it, as do the owners.
You gotta pay to play.
This.
It's a really ridiculous notion. Did the Kings lose Doughty and Kopitar because they weren't willing to give them Dustin Brown money?
I love Gio and everything he brings. But the idea that Treliving will lose out on elite talent because he's unwilling to pay them more than we paid to a 30+ defenesman is a head-scratcher.
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I would suggest something more like the following:
6 x 6.25
7 x 6.50
8 x 6.75
that would make year 7 worth $8M and year 8 worth $8.5M
or maybe add .25 to each
Ya a little low maybe. Like you said add a bit and that's fair for both sides. I can't see any reason why this can't get done before the world cup unless one side is being unreasonable. Seeing how Monahans contract was fair I have faith BT wouldnt be unreasonable
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Just tweeted the gif of Monahan and Gaudreau as batman and robin on his Twitter post and he just re-tweeted it. Guess that mean he'll be signing soon. http://twitter.com/johngaudreau03
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When Iginla was the highest-paid Flame, he was also one of the highest-paid players overall. His salary/cap hit in 2008 were higher than Gio's in 2016 in actual dollars, and much higher than Gio's as a percentage of the cap.
When Iginla signed his last contract with the Flames, it was worth 13.92% of the Cap. Gio's contract was worth 9.45% of the Cap when it was signed. Both were signed a full year before they came into effect, so their percentages in the first year of the contract were: 12.35% for Iggy, and 9.25% for Gio.
The Flames didn't have an Iginla-cap just because he was the Captain and leader of the team, but also because they really couldn't have too many other players also making that kind of money and still afford to ice a competitive roster.
Even with the Iginla-cap in place, Kipper made more money in a single season than Iginla ever did. He was paid $8.5 million in the first year of his final contract. It was the back diving later years that kept his cap hit down.
Also, when Iginla signed his final contract with the Flames, he was basically what Gio and Johnny are, rolled into one. He was the Captain of the team and undisputed leader off the ice, and he was the on-ice leader as well. As went Iginla, so went the Flames.
In 2006-07 (the season before Iginla signed his last Flames contract), Iginla missed 12 games and still finished with 13 more points than Tanguay. In 2007-08, Iginla finished 32 points ahead of Huselius. In 2008-09 (the first year of his final contract), Iginla was only 7 points ahead of Cammalleri, but 40 points ahead of Langkow, who was third in scoring.
Iginla deserved to be the highest-paid Flame because of both his leadership and his performance. As good as Gio is, he's not on the same level as Iginla, and imposing some artificial Gio-cap would be a mistake for Treliving. If he decided to do that in negotiations with Johnny, it probably won't be a problem this year -- it will likely just mean signing a shorter-term deal -- but it could be a big problem a few years from now, especially if Johnny's performance keeps improving each year.
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The last few years where Iggy was declining and we held on too long were tough on everyone so it's easy to forget... but for a few years there he wasn't just our best player. He was arguably the best player in the NHL.
A rare breed of a 50-goal scoring power-forward captain that would drop the gloves, kick your *** and then shake your hand after.
Hopefully when Johnny and Sean are signing their next contacts they will be comparable situations to that big Iggy contract but as of now they still fall short of that grandeur.
Sure a lot of pouting regarding the Gio-Cap. Have you guys ever heard of exceptions? You honestly think they have a rule that if you make $1 more than Gio you're off the team? It's just a rough number they look at, if a guy needs less than a million more a year than Giordano to get the job done, they wouldn't even flinch. The only players on the team that are going to even get a sniff of 6.75+ a year before Gio retires is Johnny and Brodie anyways. They won't let those two guys go over what's essentially chump change to these guys
If the Gio-Cap is real, it would most definitely be a soft cap
