2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread: FA News, FA Rumors and FA Speculation

[GreenLantern]

Well that 2016 1st has a chance to be McDavid and McDavid >>>> Johansen.

Don't even get me started about offering up Ser Johnny Hockey.

[keenan87]

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[keenan87]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Well that 2016 1st has a chance to be McDavid and McDavid >>>> Johansen.

Don't even get me started about offering up Ser Johnny Hockey.

That 2016 1st does not have a chance to be McDavid. That's 2015. The 2016 pick is more likely when we won't have a Top 5 pick.

As for Ser Johnny Hockey, I would wayyy rather have Johansen over Gaudreau.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by keenan87

I never said they were, in fact I am just guessing on value here. But I would rather have someone give me a response that would provide value rather than being a ######..

It was in reply to FFF...easy there. Lol

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

It was in reply to FFF...easy there. Lol

My apologies but the point still stands. Way rather have some explain why and provide value and insight than not.

[Enoch Root]

no way Columbus moves their best player for a pick two years out (which helps the team 4 years from now), unless the other assets are the primary pieces (and are really, really good ones)

[Racki]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Yeah, but you're career isn't limited to a 10-12 year period like his is.

He'll go where the money is. Guaranteed.

But remember, he'll eclipse my lifetime earnings in the first year of deal.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Care to explain why you don't like them or are you just going to be a ###### about it?

Sure, why are we trading our best prospect and a possible top 10-15 pick (you never know how good/bad we'll do in 2016) for a center, one position that is not a problem for the Flames? I like Johanssen, but not at the expense of Johnny.

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by keenan87

That 2016 1st does not have a chance to be McDavid. That's 2015. The 2016 pick is more likely when we won't have a Top 5 pick.

As for Ser Johnny Hockey, I would wayyy rather have Johansen over Gaudreau.

Ahh right, my bad I totally misread that.

I still disagree though, the 2016 will be a top 5 pick and JG has top line talent.

Bad trade is bad.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

No offence but a lot of your proposals aren't spectacular.

Mine are at least helping with the organizational needs for the Flames. I'd like to know what proposals you're thinking of.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Sure, why don't we just trade our best prospect and a possible top 10 pick for a center, depth that we already have in.

Personally, I think outside of Flames fans, every other fan will say they would rather have Johansen over Gaudreau.

Gaudreau is good but he still has a lot of question marks sorrounding him and I would rather have Johansen who has already played a few seasons in the NHL and is coming of a 30 goal season and 63 points. He is 6'3 220 Pounds.

Keep in mind we might center depth but you can never have enough of it. Sam Bennett can easily be moved to the wing down the road.

As for the 1st round pick, you need to give up value to get value and I think the Flames will be picking in the 10-15 range in 2016. Maybe I am just a huge fan of Johansen because he is big, proven and young.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Mine are at least helping with the organizational needs for the Flames. I'd like to know what proposals you're thinking of.

I bet you would!

[Dion]

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[keenan87]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Mine are at least helping with the organizational needs for the Flames. I'd like to know what proposals you're thinking of.

You make it sound like the Flames are contending for the cup with your organizational needs. The Flames are still at least 2 solid seasons away from making an impact in the NHL playoffs. Two years is a long time and if you compare rosters from 2012 to now, you will see a lot of changes. Positional needs is the last thing a rebuilding team should be worried about this early into the process.

Two years ago we didn't have any centers and now we do. The organizational need should be to acquire as many players as they can with value and who will help contribute for a long time (which Johansen will do being only 21 years old)

Oh, and if it makes you feel better, Johansen shoots right while Gaudreau shoots left. With your logic, the Flames should make the trade because we are stuffed with players who shoot left.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Personally, I think outside of Flames fans, every other fan will say they would rather have Johansen over Gaudreau.

Gaudreau is good but he still has a lot of question marks sorrounding him and I would rather have Johansen who has already played a few seasons in the NHL and is coming of a 30 goal season and 63 points. He is 6'3 220 Pounds.

Keep in mind we might center depth but you can never have enough of it. Sam Bennett can easily be moved to the wing down the road.

As for the 1st round pick, you need to give up value to get value and I think the Flames will be picking in the 10-15 range in 2016. Maybe I am just a huge fan of Johansen because he is big, proven and young.

I guess we'll agree to disagree. I too like Johanssen's game, and he'd no doubt be the 1st line center on our team, 6'3, 220 lbs and a right handed shot would definitely meet the Flames' needs. But like I said, not at the expense of Johnny G.

If you wanted me to make a counter proposal, I'd give the Jackets Backlund + Sven + a 2015 2nd (and maybe another plus). Not sure the Jackets would do it, but they already have having enough trouble signing Johanssen a decent contract. I'd easily give him a 6 x 6 on the Flames.

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I guess we'll agree to disagree. I too like Johanssen's game, and he'd no doubt be the 1st line center on our team, 6'3, 220 lbs and a right handed shot would definitely meet the Flames' needs. But like I said, not at the expense of Johnny G.

If you wanted me to make a counter proposal, I'd give the Jackets Backlund + Sven + a 2015 2nd (and maybe another plus). Not sure the Jackets would do it, but they already have having enough trouble signing Johanssen a decent contract. I'd easily give him a 6 x 6 on the Flames.

You're going to have to give up a 1st + for Johansen plain and simple.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I guess we'll agree to disagree. I too like Johanssen's game, and he'd no doubt be the 1st line center on our team, 6'3, 220 lbs and a right handed shot would definitely meet the Flames' needs. But like I said, not at the expense of Johnny G.

If you wanted me to make a counter proposal, I'd give the Jackets Backlund + Sven + a 2015 2nd (and maybe another plus). Not sure the Jackets would do it, but they already have having enough trouble signing Johanssen a decent contract. I'd easily give him a 6 x 6 on the Flames.

Fair enough. Agree to disagree

[the_only_turek_fan]

I wonder if there is interest in Mason Raymond this time with the change in management.

28 years old, lots of speed. Could do it on a 1-2 year deal at 1-2 per.

[dissentowner]

I would not trade JG straight up for Johanssen. With his skill and hockey sense I truly believe JG will be one of the top 5 players in the NHL in 3-5 years time. Big pass.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

You're going to have to give up a 1st + for Johansen plain and simple.

Pretty sure they'd do it for a B+ prospect in Sven , an NHL ready player in Backlund 2nd/3rd line C who is perfectly capable of replacing Johanssen's minutes, and arguably a high 2nd round pick in 2015.