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Old 05-12-2016, 09:00 AM   #3721
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Just heard Duhatschek on 960 offer a scenario where PK Subban is traded to Edmonton for 4th OA ++ so Montreal could draft Dubois.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:08 AM   #3722
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I said it earlier but I would love for the Oilers to do 4th + Klefbom + ??? for Subban.

Great player but his $9M cap hit would be really painful once they need raises for McDavid and Draisaitl.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:16 AM   #3723
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Sorry if this was brought up earlier...

Brett Cyrgalis of the NY Post: Jaroslav Halak might not be with the Islanders next season. Thomas Greiss took over the starting job and the Islanders are very high on J-F Berube. Halak has two years left on his contract with a $4.5 million cap hit and could be a trade chip for the Islanders. The Islanders are not planning on having a three-goalie system next season.

Would Halak be a decent stop-gap to get the Flames through these next couple years until Gillies is ready?
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I'd prefer Fleury to Halak, to be honest.
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Sorry if this was brought up earlier...

Brett Cyrgalis of the NY Post: Jaroslav Halak might not be with the Islanders next season. Thomas Greiss took over the starting job and the Islanders are very high on J-F Berube. Halak has two years left on his contract with a $4.5 million cap hit and could be a trade chip for the Islanders. The Islanders are not planning on having a three-goalie system next season.

Would Halak be a decent stop-gap to get the Flames through these next couple years until Gillies is ready?
Sure, but I still think they can do better.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:17 AM   #3726
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To Montreal: 4th OA + Yakupov + Klefbom

To Edmonton: 9th OA + Subban

Montreal picks Dubois. Edmonton drafts the best D available at 9 or flips it again in another deal.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:19 AM   #3727
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To Montreal: 4th OA + Yakupov + Klefbom

To Edmonton: 9th OA + Subban

Montreal picks Dubois. Edmonton drafts the best D available at 9 or flips it again in another deal.


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I think Edmonton would have to give more for a Norris Trophy winning defenseman, no?

Dubois (unknown nhl talent) plus Klefbom (what does he have, like 70 games played?) doesn't seem like enough to me if I'm Montreal
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To Montreal: 4th OA + Yakupov + Klefbom

To Edmonton: 9th OA + Subban

Montreal picks Dubois. Edmonton drafts the best D available at 9 or flips it again in another deal.
Marc Bergevin could just as well go back to throwing pucks in his own net if he made that trade.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:26 AM   #3731
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I'm not saying it's a great trade. Outside of maybe getting Hall, trading Subban at all would not be a popular one in Montreal. I'm just spit balling possibilities based on what Duhatschek mentioned.
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I'm not saying it's a great trade. Outside of maybe getting Hall, trading Subban at all would not be a popular one in Montreal. I'm just spit balling possibilities based on what Duhatschek mentioned.


Subban's value would be much higher than 5 spots in the draft, Klefbom, and a busted Yakupov.

If anything, take out Montreal's first and even then I don't think Montreal does it.
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Yeah no way the 9th overall goes back the other way - Unless you are including Taylor Hall or RNH in addition to the 4th overall.
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To Montreal: 4th OA + Yakupov + Klefbom

To Edmonton: 9th OA + Subban

Montreal picks Dubois. Edmonton drafts the best D available at 9 or flips it again in another deal.
There's no way Edmonton is getting the 9th OA back if they're getting Subban and not giving up a good roster player.

It would be more like this:

To Montreal: 4th OA + Yakupov + Klefbom

To Edmonton: Subban

OR

To Montreal: 4th OA + Hall + Klefbom

To Edmonton: 9th OA + Subban
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If Subban is traded, I think 4OA and one of the 6x6 boys would come back, even just on a salary basis. Hall is probably too much but RNH or Eberle could make sense (I think Klefbom is still in there.)
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:42 AM   #3736
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Not sure if this being discussed elsewhere - please advise if so, but with all the talk of trying to pry Nichushkin out of Dallas - I was less then impressed with his play.
Outside of being big and filling a positional need, I didn't think he brought much to the game, and certainly didn't use his size at all.
Dimitri Jaskin however - have we talked much about him? How do folks think he'd fit and what would it take to get him out of St. Louis?
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:44 AM   #3737
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There's no way Edmonton is getting the 9th OA back if they're getting Subban and not giving up a good roster player.

It would be more like this:

To Montreal: 4th OA + Yakupov + Klefbom

To Edmonton: Subban

OR

To Montreal: 4th OA + Hall + Klefbom

To Edmonton: 9th OA + Subban
You are probably right. Hall in place of Yakupov makes more sense for Montreal, if they were to include their 9th OA pick.

This is exactly why I don't offer up trade proposals that often.

To be fair, there was no way Calgary would get Hamilton for picks. Trades are weird.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:48 AM   #3738
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Just heard Duhatschek on 960 offer a scenario where PK Subban is traded to Edmonton for 4th OA ++ so Montreal could draft Dubois.
I know Dubois is a good prospect but I don't know if he's "can't miss" like the top 3 guys as that's a big gamble. One of Nurse, Sekera, or Klefbom would have to go the other way as moving Subban would leave a big hole in their defense group.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:51 AM   #3739
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Not sure if this being discussed elsewhere - please advise if so, but with all the talk of trying to pry Nichushkin out of Dallas - I was less then impressed with his play.
Outside of being big and filling a positional need, I didn't think he brought much to the game, and certainly didn't use his size at all.
Dimitri Jaskin however - have we talked much about him? How do folks think he'd fit and what would it take to get him out of St. Louis?
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Yep I'm not impressed. He has that same self-entitled, underachieving stink as Yakupov IMO. Druin complained about his use but at least he backed it up with stellar play when given the opportunity. These guys always underwhelm.
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:57 AM   #3740
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Would we trade down to the 10th pick (Colorado) and get Picard? Maybe include Ortio for their 3rd as well?

We could probably still pick Keller or Jost at 10.
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