2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Roof-Daddy]

I wish Kadri would make up his ####ing mind already.

If he's going to go somewhere else hopefully tye Flames are in on Stastny.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Necas... his faceoff % is brutal and he seems to be regressing. There is no universe where I'd trade Hanifin for him, let alone Hanifin + Zary.

For a much smaller price, perhaps.

But for Hanifin you'd be looking to get a proven, quality forward who can really solidify the top 6.

Necas has hardly taken any faceoffs totalling just 48, 78 and 85 draws taken in each of the last 3 years so his ‘brutal’ face off percentage can be taken with a grain of salt as he hasn’t been played at his natural centre position all that much. Also I said specifically that I wouldn’t trade Hanifin straight up for Necas, I said there’d need to be a plus coming the other way from Carolina and potentially even one more depending on the first plus.

Personally I don’t think Carolina is that great of a trading partner though Necas is being slightly under rated by the board here which is why I chimed in. He does show potential to pop, would I trade Hanifin for him? Definitely not and I obviously wouldn’t do Hanifin + Zary for him either, Carolina would have to add and nothing they would being willing to part with outside of Necas really excites me.

Do I think Hanifin should be considered someone we could trade? I do mainly because his value with the contract he has is at an all time high and they’d be dealing from a position of organizational strength.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I wish Kadri would make up his ####ing mind already.

If he's going to go somewhere else hopefully tye Flames are in on Stastny.

I’d much rather go Stastny on a shorter term than what ever Kadri would bring.

Use this time to figure out what you still have in Monahan. Look to deal some of our prospect capital for a different centre who’ll require less commitment or be better value than UFA Kadri. I won’t bother to suggest who, since I never in a million years would’ve thought “trade for Jonathan Huberdeau” was going to be the solution to the Tkachuk problem and the Gaudreau problem at the same time.

The flames now have three recent 1st round selections, and four 1sts in the next three drafts. They have the assets to make another big addition up front. And let’s be real - Darryl Sutter isn’t going to put any of these children in big time situations for another three years, never mind anyone we might pick with the next three 1sts. I’m not advocating trading all of them, obviously, but two of them?

Hell yeah.

They don’t need to tie themselves to 32 year old Nazem Kadri.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I wish Kadri would make up his ####ing mind already.

If he's going to go somewhere else hopefully tye Flames are in on Stastny.

If Kadri is really down to Colorado and Calgary, I expect those two clubs will be unable to offer Kadri firm $ until they figure out the MacKinnon and Huberdeau/Weegar extensions respectively.

Neither orgs will make their best offers until they understand how those contracts will affect their cap structure for the 23/24 season.

[Matty81]

Yeah necas has never played center regularly in the nhl... the appeal with him is that he is a right shot rw who could potentially play on the top two lines. Now that Jarvis has stepped up and drury coming and all their forward depth I could see Carolina moving him but I think they value him massively, rumors are that he was the centerpiece of their tkachuk offer. Also not really clear what Carolina needs, they seem to have a deep squad across the board and I can't see a win now team flipping a guy like that for futures.

He is a really fast skater with good hands. I'd be real happy if the flames found a way to get him to round out the top 6. Lock him up for 5 years or so with a promise of opportunity and I could see him blowing up on that top line.

That said I do kinda wonder what he is like mentality wise and if he's a "sutter player"

[JTech780]

Would a trade around Valimaki for Kravtsov work for both sides?

Both players are waiver eligible this year and both players probably need fresh starts. The Rangers might have more of an opportunity for Valimaki and we might have more of an opportunity for Kravtsov.

[dammage79]

Huberdeau-Lindholm-Kravstov

That's an extremely interesting line.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by JTech780

Would a trade around Valimaki for Kravtsov work for both sides?

Both players are waiver eligible this year and both players probably need fresh starts. The Rangers might have more of an opportunity for Valimaki and we might have more of an opportunity for Kravtsov.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Rangers were looking to solidify their D. Perhaps a bit thin after Fox and Trouba. Not sure if they would be interested in Valimaki. Kylington perhaps?

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Rangers were looking to solidify their D. Perhaps a bit thin after Fox and Trouba. Not sure if they would be interested in Valimaki. Kylington perhaps?

like all decent teams, Rangers struggling with cap. For that reason alone, Valimaki may be interesting.

[Goriders]

I don’t think valimaki has a future with the Flames. They keep bringing in others and slotting them above him on the depth chart.

[CsInMyBlood]

I'd deal Hanafin asap. Get a good return while we can. He has shown to be a bit of a weak link in the playoffs where every shift matters.

I'm sure he gets you a solid forward to play in the top 6.

[Elkyiv]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I wish Kadri would make up his ####ing mind already.

If he's going to go somewhere else hopefully tye Flames are in on Stastny.

The only thing the Flames need to be in on now is extending their new acquisitions.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Goriders

I don’t think valimaki has a future with the Flames. They keep bringing in others and slotting them above him on the depth chart.

The reason other acquisitions slot in above him is because he hasn't risen. The Flames absolutely want Valimaki to be part of their future, but HE has to make that happen.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

I'd deal Hanafin asap. Get a good return while we can. He has shown to be a bit of a weak link in the playoffs where every shift matters.

I'm sure he gets you a solid forward to play in the top 6.

Okay, but getting rid of him means that someone like Mackey replaces him. Unless you think Mackey (or whomever) is going to be better, then you've weakened the defense even more. And if the defense was already a problem, as you are suggesting, I fail to see how this would be a solution.

The idea was to improve the defense. Thus the acquisition of Weegar, one of the benefits of which will be to lighten the load on some of the other guys, including Hanifin.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by flylock shox

D for RW definitely seems like the logical move.

I wonder if Philly are much attached to Owen Tippett. Promising young Ontarian, and Huberdeau could give the Flames the inside scoop on him too.

Tippett is a dud, on a team that was breaking all kinds of scoring records he was the only guy who couldn't produce when given the opportunity. Tools but no toolbox.

[JTech780]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

I'd deal Hanafin asap. Get a good return while we can. He has shown to be a bit of a weak link in the playoffs where every shift matters.

I'm sure he gets you a solid forward to play in the top 6.

With the addition of Weegar I really like our top 4. I though last year we were playing one defenseman short on our top 4. So I would keep Hanifin and deal from our bottom pairing depth. I think this team is going to rely on defense even more this year.

Also with Weegar it allows Hanifin to be slotted appropriately as a 2nd pairing guy. I would run Weegar-Tanev as my top pair and Hanifin-Andersson as my 2nd pair.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I wish Kadri would make up his ####ing mind already.

If he's going to go somewhere else hopefully tye Flames are in on Stastny.

Why? If the Flames are legitimately interested it's playing into their hands that he's taking this much time. Flames need to get some of their own business cleared up first but if he's still available by then he would be a great addition.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Elkyiv

The only thing the Flames need to be in on now is extending their new acquisitions.

What if those extensions is contingent on the Flames filling the loss of the top six player on the roster? Those guys could be waiting to see what the next move is because the offense is dramatically weaker than last season and the Flames need to improve upon last year's lineup. Weegar is a good step on the blueline, but the team needs another proven scorer to backfill the loss of Gaudreau/Tkachuk.

[bax]

Yeah there is no need to trade a defenseman just because we acquired one.

Adding a top pair guy in Weegar helps ease everybody’s minutes. Easier matchups = more success.

Also, injuries happen. Just look at how badly losing Tanev hurt the team last year.

Weegar - Tanev
Hanifin - Andersson
Kylington - Zadorov

All three of these pairings should be able to crush their minutes given where they are slotted. You can mix and match too.

Stone, Meloche, Mackey, and Valimaki are all solid depth options to fill in on occasion too. If you’re moving a defenseman I don’t want it to be any of the top 6.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

I'd deal Hanafin asap. Get a good return while we can. He has shown to be a bit of a weak link in the playoffs where every shift matters.

I'm sure he gets you a solid forward to play in the top 6.

Trading Hanifin will be a mistake. One more year of Sutter and he will be even better IMO. He's awesome and I do not understand why Flames fans don't give this guy the credit he deserves.

Like straight up, Hanifin is better than Andersson and will continue to be. Why not trade Andersson instead if we have to trade a Dman?