07-26-2022, 09:52 PM
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#3681
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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D for RW definitely seems like the logical move.
I wonder if Philly are much attached to Owen Tippett. Promising young Ontarian, and Huberdeau could give the Flames the inside scoop on him too.
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07-26-2022, 09:54 PM
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#3682
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Tippett was the main piece that went back for Giroux, no? Don't think Philly cuts bait so soon.
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07-26-2022, 09:55 PM
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#3683
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flylock shox
D for RW definitely seems like the logical move.
I wonder if Philly are much attached to Owen Tippett. Promising young Ontarian, and Huberdeau could give the Flames the inside scoop on him too.
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Honestly don’t know much about Owen Tippett, but would be nice to find a true 2nd line winger to fill that hole. Not sure he is it, but he was pretty highly touted at one point.
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07-26-2022, 09:55 PM
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#3684
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
Man looking at Necas his stat line is eerily similar to Lindholm’s right when we got him; Lindy was a 39 to 45 pt guy across 4 full season before going to Calgary and having a 27 goal 78 point breakout year to start his career as a flame. Necas could be a sneaky guy to target but needs a lot of work before I’d consider him a full time centre and needs to round out his 200 foot game.
Flames are in a position of strength and as much as I love Hanifin I could see the reasoning in trading him now to gain some value at an all-time high from him. I counter the notion it would take Hanifin + Zary to land a player like Necas and suggest that a + and potentially even another + gets added to get a D like Hanifin.
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Necas... his faceoff % is brutal and he seems to be regressing. There is no universe where I'd trade Hanifin for him, let alone Hanifin + Zary.
For a much smaller price, perhaps.
But for Hanifin you'd be looking to get a proven, quality forward who can really solidify the top 6.
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07-26-2022, 09:56 PM
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#3685
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flylock shox
D for RW definitely seems like the logical move.
I wonder if Philly are much attached to Owen Tippett. Promising young Ontarian, and Huberdeau could give the Flames the inside scoop on him too.
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I've soured a bit on Tippett. Seems like he should've cemented his place on an NHL roster by now, but is up until now unable. I guess anything is possible with Sutter at the helm, but he seems to lack hockey sense.
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07-26-2022, 09:56 PM
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#3686
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First Line Centre
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Howzaboot Evan Rodrigues?
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07-26-2022, 10:00 PM
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#3687
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathgod
Necas... his faceoff % is brutal and he seems to be regressing. There is no universe where I'd trade Hanifin for him, let alone Hanifin + Zary.
For a much smaller price, perhaps.
But for Hanifin you'd be looking to get a proven, quality forward who can really solidify the top 6.
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At the same time, I believe he was pushed down the roster, and even to the wing, with the aquisition of Kotkaniemi. In 2020-21, he had 41 pts in 53 games. I have no doubt that he has capable 2nd line C in him, and maybe more.
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07-26-2022, 10:02 PM
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#3688
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
I've soured a bit on Tippett. Seems like he should've cemented his place on an NHL roster by now, but is up until now unable. I guess anything is possible with Sutter at the helm, but he seems to lack hockey sense.
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You would have a better sense than me. I just remember him being touted as pretty quick with a great shot in his draft year, and see he's filled out into a pretty big guy. Plus there's the Huberdeau connection and the fact that the Flames need more redheads.
But I agree: his performance in the grown up leagues is middling so far.
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07-26-2022, 10:02 PM
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#3689
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelson
Howzaboot Evan Rodrigues?
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Rodriguez had a great year, with 43 pts and a few Selke votes.
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07-26-2022, 10:05 PM
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#3690
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flylock shox
You would have a better sense than me. I just remember him being touted as pretty quick with a great shot in his draft year, and see he's filled out into a pretty big guy. Plus there's the Huberdeau connection and the fact that the Flames need more redheads.
But I agree: his performance in the grown up leagues is middling so far.
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You're right about the shot, his size, and the ginger quotient. I'm always wary about drafting junior players with mainly goal-scoring in their offensive toolkit. A lot of the time, it just doesn't translate to the bigs. You're right though, there's still time-he's big, and he can skate.
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07-26-2022, 10:08 PM
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#3691
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Powerplay Quarterback
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It would never happen but I wouldn't mind hanifin for sam reinheart.
Similar age, similar pedigree, both 2 years remaining and both coming off career years. Reinheart is west coast canadian and can play rw or center.
Panthers need a top 4 left D now and cap space. They would save 1.5m
Our back end would still be pretty solid.
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07-26-2022, 10:13 PM
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#3692
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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I dunno, like other posters I would kinda like to settle in and enjoy our new top-4 of Weegs, Hanifin, Andersson, and Tanev. Sure, Hanifin would fetch us a better player, but I would prefer to trade Kylington and/or Valimaki first. Let's not forget though-Weegar hasn't signed yet, so no use making a move on D until we know what he's doing.
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07-26-2022, 10:14 PM
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#3693
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Mathgod
Necas... his faceoff % is brutal and he seems to be regressing. There is no universe where I'd trade Hanifin for him, let alone Hanifin + Zary.
For a much smaller price, perhaps.
But for Hanifin you'd be looking to get a proven, quality forward who can really solidify the top 6.
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There is also the team control factor. Florida traded what to get Tkachuk? Why because they knew they had him signed for 8 years. Him and barkov are young and wrapped up. They have time to build around them
Necas has 4 years until he’s a UFA. He can be bridged he can be signed long term but he has more control with upside.
Maybe hanifin stays but he is very likely to leave in 2 years. Zary is decent but like Necas he also wasn’t great last year. He’s not on any top 50 prospects list so it’s not a huge add just because he have him 4th on our group.
Necas could be signed long term and around $5 mil and it will be a steal
Imo the Flames should be moving one of hanifin kylington or valmaki to improve the forwards. Necas is a righty too so he slots in nicely
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07-26-2022, 10:16 PM
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#3694
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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I was all about Timo Mier until I learned that he is RFA after this year and required a 10 million qualifying offer.
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07-26-2022, 10:22 PM
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#3695
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by traptor
It would never happen but I wouldn't mind hanifin for sam reinheart.
Similar age, similar pedigree, both 2 years remaining and both coming off career years. Reinheart is west coast canadian and can play rw or center.
Panthers need a top 4 left D now and cap space. They would save 1.5m
Our back end would still be pretty solid.
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I'd trade Killington and valamaki before I moved hanifin.
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07-26-2022, 10:24 PM
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#3696
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Franchise Player
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If Necas was bumped down the depth chart in favor of Kotkaniemi, that's an indictment in and of itself.
If you could do something like Valimaki + Zary for Necas, that's where I'd be willing to pull the trigger.
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07-26-2022, 10:24 PM
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#3697
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by traptor
It would never happen but I wouldn't mind hanifin for sam reinheart.
Similar age, similar pedigree, both 2 years remaining and both coming off career years. Reinheart is west coast canadian and can play rw or center.
Panthers need a top 4 left D now and cap space. They would save 1.5m
Our back end would still be pretty solid.
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I have always thought Sam Reinhardt is a really good player, very high hockey IQ. I would be happy with that move.
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07-26-2022, 10:25 PM
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#3698
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathgod
If Necas was bumped down the depth chart in favor of Kotkaniemi, that's an indictment in and of itself.
If you could do something like Valimaki + Zary for Necas, that's where I'd be willing to pull the trigger.
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I would be all over that. I do think he has a high ceiling.
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07-26-2022, 10:27 PM
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#3699
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
I'd trade Killington and valamaki before I moved hanifin.
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It’s going to be tough to extend Huberdeau and Weegar and the do it again with Lindholm and Hanifin in 2 years. If we get a Kadri I’d keep hanifin
But if this is it and treliving is just done adding and resigns players it might be better to extend Kylington 6 x $4 mil and trade hanifin as he probably costs $8 mil in 2 years and is a risk to walk
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07-26-2022, 10:28 PM
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#3700
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathgod
If Necas was bumped down the depth chart in favor of Kotkaniemi, that's an indictment in and of itself.
If you could do something like Valimaki + Zary for Necas, that's where I'd be willing to pull the trigger.
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I think it was more a move to the second line wing, rather than his normal C position. That team had a ton of players that can play C.
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