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Old 07-26-2022, 09:52 PM   #3681
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D for RW definitely seems like the logical move.

I wonder if Philly are much attached to Owen Tippett. Promising young Ontarian, and Huberdeau could give the Flames the inside scoop on him too.
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Old 07-26-2022, 09:54 PM   #3682
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Tippett was the main piece that went back for Giroux, no? Don't think Philly cuts bait so soon.
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D for RW definitely seems like the logical move.

I wonder if Philly are much attached to Owen Tippett. Promising young Ontarian, and Huberdeau could give the Flames the inside scoop on him too.
Honestly don’t know much about Owen Tippett, but would be nice to find a true 2nd line winger to fill that hole. Not sure he is it, but he was pretty highly touted at one point.
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Man looking at Necas his stat line is eerily similar to Lindholm’s right when we got him; Lindy was a 39 to 45 pt guy across 4 full season before going to Calgary and having a 27 goal 78 point breakout year to start his career as a flame. Necas could be a sneaky guy to target but needs a lot of work before I’d consider him a full time centre and needs to round out his 200 foot game.

Flames are in a position of strength and as much as I love Hanifin I could see the reasoning in trading him now to gain some value at an all-time high from him. I counter the notion it would take Hanifin + Zary to land a player like Necas and suggest that a + and potentially even another + gets added to get a D like Hanifin.
Necas... his faceoff % is brutal and he seems to be regressing. There is no universe where I'd trade Hanifin for him, let alone Hanifin + Zary.

For a much smaller price, perhaps.

But for Hanifin you'd be looking to get a proven, quality forward who can really solidify the top 6.
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D for RW definitely seems like the logical move.

I wonder if Philly are much attached to Owen Tippett. Promising young Ontarian, and Huberdeau could give the Flames the inside scoop on him too.
I've soured a bit on Tippett. Seems like he should've cemented his place on an NHL roster by now, but is up until now unable. I guess anything is possible with Sutter at the helm, but he seems to lack hockey sense.
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Howzaboot Evan Rodrigues?
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Necas... his faceoff % is brutal and he seems to be regressing. There is no universe where I'd trade Hanifin for him, let alone Hanifin + Zary.

For a much smaller price, perhaps.

But for Hanifin you'd be looking to get a proven, quality forward who can really solidify the top 6.
At the same time, I believe he was pushed down the roster, and even to the wing, with the aquisition of Kotkaniemi. In 2020-21, he had 41 pts in 53 games. I have no doubt that he has capable 2nd line C in him, and maybe more.
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Old 07-26-2022, 10:02 PM   #3688
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I've soured a bit on Tippett. Seems like he should've cemented his place on an NHL roster by now, but is up until now unable. I guess anything is possible with Sutter at the helm, but he seems to lack hockey sense.
You would have a better sense than me. I just remember him being touted as pretty quick with a great shot in his draft year, and see he's filled out into a pretty big guy. Plus there's the Huberdeau connection and the fact that the Flames need more redheads.

But I agree: his performance in the grown up leagues is middling so far.
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Howzaboot Evan Rodrigues?
Rodriguez had a great year, with 43 pts and a few Selke votes.
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You would have a better sense than me. I just remember him being touted as pretty quick with a great shot in his draft year, and see he's filled out into a pretty big guy. Plus there's the Huberdeau connection and the fact that the Flames need more redheads.

But I agree: his performance in the grown up leagues is middling so far.
You're right about the shot, his size, and the ginger quotient. I'm always wary about drafting junior players with mainly goal-scoring in their offensive toolkit. A lot of the time, it just doesn't translate to the bigs. You're right though, there's still time-he's big, and he can skate.
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It would never happen but I wouldn't mind hanifin for sam reinheart.
Similar age, similar pedigree, both 2 years remaining and both coming off career years. Reinheart is west coast canadian and can play rw or center.
Panthers need a top 4 left D now and cap space. They would save 1.5m

Our back end would still be pretty solid.
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I dunno, like other posters I would kinda like to settle in and enjoy our new top-4 of Weegs, Hanifin, Andersson, and Tanev. Sure, Hanifin would fetch us a better player, but I would prefer to trade Kylington and/or Valimaki first. Let's not forget though-Weegar hasn't signed yet, so no use making a move on D until we know what he's doing.
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Old 07-26-2022, 10:14 PM   #3693
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Necas... his faceoff % is brutal and he seems to be regressing. There is no universe where I'd trade Hanifin for him, let alone Hanifin + Zary.

For a much smaller price, perhaps.

But for Hanifin you'd be looking to get a proven, quality forward who can really solidify the top 6.
There is also the team control factor. Florida traded what to get Tkachuk? Why because they knew they had him signed for 8 years. Him and barkov are young and wrapped up. They have time to build around them

Necas has 4 years until he’s a UFA. He can be bridged he can be signed long term but he has more control with upside.

Maybe hanifin stays but he is very likely to leave in 2 years. Zary is decent but like Necas he also wasn’t great last year. He’s not on any top 50 prospects list so it’s not a huge add just because he have him 4th on our group.

Necas could be signed long term and around $5 mil and it will be a steal

Imo the Flames should be moving one of hanifin kylington or valmaki to improve the forwards. Necas is a righty too so he slots in nicely
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I was all about Timo Mier until I learned that he is RFA after this year and required a 10 million qualifying offer.
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It would never happen but I wouldn't mind hanifin for sam reinheart.
Similar age, similar pedigree, both 2 years remaining and both coming off career years. Reinheart is west coast canadian and can play rw or center.
Panthers need a top 4 left D now and cap space. They would save 1.5m

Our back end would still be pretty solid.
I'd trade Killington and valamaki before I moved hanifin.
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If Necas was bumped down the depth chart in favor of Kotkaniemi, that's an indictment in and of itself.

If you could do something like Valimaki + Zary for Necas, that's where I'd be willing to pull the trigger.
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It would never happen but I wouldn't mind hanifin for sam reinheart.
Similar age, similar pedigree, both 2 years remaining and both coming off career years. Reinheart is west coast canadian and can play rw or center.
Panthers need a top 4 left D now and cap space. They would save 1.5m

Our back end would still be pretty solid.
I have always thought Sam Reinhardt is a really good player, very high hockey IQ. I would be happy with that move.
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If Necas was bumped down the depth chart in favor of Kotkaniemi, that's an indictment in and of itself.

If you could do something like Valimaki + Zary for Necas, that's where I'd be willing to pull the trigger.
I would be all over that. I do think he has a high ceiling.
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I'd trade Killington and valamaki before I moved hanifin.
It’s going to be tough to extend Huberdeau and Weegar and the do it again with Lindholm and Hanifin in 2 years. If we get a Kadri I’d keep hanifin

But if this is it and treliving is just done adding and resigns players it might be better to extend Kylington 6 x $4 mil and trade hanifin as he probably costs $8 mil in 2 years and is a risk to walk
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If Necas was bumped down the depth chart in favor of Kotkaniemi, that's an indictment in and of itself.

If you could do something like Valimaki + Zary for Necas, that's where I'd be willing to pull the trigger.
I think it was more a move to the second line wing, rather than his normal C position. That team had a ton of players that can play C.
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