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Old 02-13-2017, 09:36 AM   #3601
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So business as usual. Nothing Harper wasn't doing.

Back to Trump.
Did I mention Harper? No.

Did I even mention if any of those things were bad in objective terms, including Trump. No.

I framed it in a way that they both use media to distract the public and reduce the negative pushback from any of their actions. Even in a landslide win of an election you will always have a good portion of the population that doesn't like what their leader is doing.

The point I was making these two individuals are very good at moving the public conversation along and away from things they dont want talked about by using the media to their advantage.
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Old 02-13-2017, 09:39 AM   #3602
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I think there is a big difference though between trying to be likable in front of the media and doing what Trump does, where he tries to discredit the media by promoting conspiracy theories and restricting their access.

Almost every politician uses the the media to try and become popular by promoting positive images. Who can forget Stephen Harper's "kitten photos" (complete with electric guitar placed conspicuously in the background), or Stockwell Day's perfectly posed jet-skiing photo-op in Kelowna? It's exactly the same thing Trudeau does.

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Again their methodology is polar opposite, but the end game of distracting the public and using the media to talk about something else is the same.

Now whether their similar intent is or is not done with malice, is a completely different debate.
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Old 02-13-2017, 09:53 AM   #3603
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Wondering how Trudeau did with Dump's dumpy handshake?

Wonder no more:
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/831171027845554176

Looked like he was ready for it, ended up being a strong handshake.
Nice, Trudeau started out with the handshake already pulled into his body so when Trump tries to yank it he can't. Trudeau showed everyone how to do it, spread the word!
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Old 02-13-2017, 09:59 AM   #3604
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http://www.vox.com/conversations/201...ov-putin-trump

Kasparov remains an important voice.
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Old 02-13-2017, 10:02 AM   #3605
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Seems like The Great Pumpkin is starting to second guess some of his people.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...e-staff-234949

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President Donald Trump, frustrated over his administration’s rocky start, is complaining to friends and allies about some of his most senior aides — leading to questions about whether he is mulling an early staff shakeup.

Trump has told several people that he is particularly displeased with national security adviser Michael Flynn over reports that he had top-secret discussions with Russian officials and lied about it. The president, who spent part of the weekend dealing with the Flynn controversy, has been alarmed by reports from top aides that they don't trust Flynn. "He thinks he's a problem," said one person familiar with the president’s thinking. "I would be worried if I was General Flynn."
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If there is a single issue where the president feels his aides have let him down, it was the controversial executive order on immigration. The president has complained to at least one person about "how his people didn't give him good advice" on rolling out the travel ban and that he should have waited to sign it instead of "rushing it like they wanted me to." Trump has also wondered why he didn’t have a legal team in place to defend it from challenges.
KellyAnne Conway as a potential Chief of Staff. The potential hilarity.
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Seems like The Great Pumpkin is starting to second guess some of his people.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...e-staff-234949

KellyAnne Conway as a potential Chief of Staff. The potential hilarity.
That's to be expected when you only hire THE BEST PEOPLE. Uhm, wait...
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https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/pres...nister-trudeau

Trudreau speaking now at the Whitehouse.

First comment about importance of women in the workplace. Hah.
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Did you guys know today is the first weekday since President Agent Orange took office that he didn't send a tweet out before 8:15 am EST? Progress I suppose?
Or things are getting serious...
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Old 02-13-2017, 10:27 AM   #3611
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That guy is incredibly awkward and his tone is even more combative and defensive than Spicer. Not to mention he might win the prize for most punchable face in Trump's administration (other than Bannon).

Also, is he reading his answers off a teleprompter? Watch his eyes. It sure looks like it.
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Old 02-13-2017, 10:28 AM   #3612
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Trudeau brought Trump a pic of Trump and Pierre from years ago.

President Trump just said "Strong women are definitely here," as he sat down at the women in business roundtable.

"It's a great honour, I recognize some of you, great success, so important," he said. "I'm honoured to be here with Prime Minister Trudeau whose father I knew, and respected greatly. He gave me a picture of myself and his father ... at a special place, the Waldorf-Astoria."
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Old 02-13-2017, 10:30 AM   #3613
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That guy is incredibly awkward and his tone is even more combative and defensive than Spicer. Not to mention he might win the prize for most punchable face in Trump's administration (other than Bannon).

Also, is he reading his answers off a teleprompter? Watch his eyes. It sure looks like it.
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So this is interesting.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/12/politi...rea/index.html

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Swanning through the club's living room and main dining area alongside Abe, Trump was -- as is now typical -- swarmed with paying members, who now view dinner at the club as an opportunity for a few seconds of face time with the new President.
But as he sat down for the planned working dinner with Abe, whose country is well within range of North Korea's missiles, it was clear his counterpart felt it necessary to respond to the test. The launch occurred just before 8 a.m. on Sunday morning in Japan.
Sensing the urgency of the situation, Trump decided to spring into action:
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But even as he confronted one of the gravest matters of his office, Trump nonetheless found it impossible to resist dropping in on a nearby wedding reception, already underway in his treasured Grand Ballroom. Trump designed and built the space himself after purchasing Mar-a-Lago in the 1980s.
Entering the ornate room, Trump took a photo with the bride and her bridesmaids, who posed in red gowns next to the commander in chief, mimicking his signature thumbs-up.
Then he grabbed a microphone.
"I saw them out on the lawn today," Trump said of the bride and groom, who were standing nearby. "I said to the Prime Minister of Japan, I said, 'C'mon Shinzo, let's go over and say hello.' "
"They've been members of this club for a long time," Trump said of the newlyweds. "They've paid me a fortune."
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Sullivan's description of what is going on is incredibly well put, as is Kasparov's explanation of why it's going on.

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I still see that tweet from mid-December in my mentions regularly. Dealing with propaganda and misinformation campaigns is a new fight for most Americans, but it’s familiar ground for me and other Russians. You can see dystopian novels climbing the best-seller lists in the US because people are trying to educate themselves, and that’s where I’m trying to help. A lot of it was included in Winter Is Coming, but even I didn’t foresee Trump!

Modern dictatorships have become far more sophisticated still in how to achieve their ends. They learned that by constant bombardment, your senses become overwhelmed. You start to doubt, to shrug your shoulders, to tune out, and that makes you vulnerable. Instead of pushing one lie, one fake, they can push a dozen, or a hundred, and that’s pretty good odds against one lonely truth. They win when you say: “Who can be sure what really happened?
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Seems like The Great Pumpkin is starting to second guess some of his people.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...e-staff-234949
Trump doesn't care about Flynn talking to Russian officials before the inauguration (and probably even told Flynn to do so).

Trump only cares about Flynn getting caught.
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I missed John so much the past few months- a great return
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Well no ifs about this one: This guy is getting fired after being outed as the holder of the nuclear football. No doubt there's going to be a catastrophic event in the Trump administration due to their staggering incompetence.

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Gerald Butts met with Bannon, can't imagine two guys with more diametrically opposed world views.
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