04-13-2010, 10:01 AM
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#341
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by worth
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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unless they're trapped, then they would be stupid to not throw stones.
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04-13-2010, 10:01 AM
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#342
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Ben
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: God's Country (aka Cape Breton Island)
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Let me ask you all a question.
Who here has tried pot?
Who in their lifetime has had one puff?
Now, if you believe the police don't have to properly investigate or provide the ability for a full answer and defence for the OP, then merely admitting to trying pot means without any investigation you should be charged and convicted for the criminal usage of illegal drugs.
Admitting he had a drink is not enough, according to the definition of the crime, to prove his guilt. It is required the officer take a breath sample. Just as it's required that the crown provide sufficient evidence in order to convict beyond all reasonable doubt. Frankly (if what the OP is saying is accurate) I don't think that's been done here.
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04-13-2010, 10:06 AM
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#343
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pylon
I would like to thank the OP for removing his old signature.
Also, I see you called a couple insurance cos. as I suggested, and got a much more favourable result than I had anticipated.
They must look at this differently than a standard DUI charge, as I have seen people in 5 figure territory for car insurance after DUI's. I saw one situation where a driver caused a fatality and after his court ordered suspension was lifted after 2 years he was paying $16,000/year for standard liabilty insurance.
In all honesty, if you are only looking at $40 bucks a month, I would recommend just sucking it up, and not trying to beat the system. I lost my license my first year for a combo charge of stunting and excessive speeding (which is no less stupid or dangerous than drinking and driving), lost my license for 90 days (as appointed by a judge) and saw my insurance sky rocket (triple) for about 3 years. That was more than enough of a reminder to not be an a-hole behind the wheel, and have only had a couple speeding tickets since in close to 20 years. Considering I ride a 200 HP motorcycle as well, that is not an easy feat...lol. Look at it as a reminder as consequences to your actions every time you make a payment.
You know you were drinking, we know you were drinking, and you told the cop you were drinking. What are you proving by beating the system on a technicality? It takes a much bigger man to accept the consequences, than to weasel your way out of it.
Not that it probably means anything to you, but you would have my respect if you accept your punishment... As I had mentioned in PM's, 2 people close to me have been killed by drunk drivers, so you can likely understand my position.
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I recall talking to an insurance agent that mentioned that something like a stunting charge is treated the same way as a DUI when it comes to insurance rates. That should be enough to keep anybody from doing it.
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04-13-2010, 10:18 AM
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#344
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by thesmugger
So I've called a few insurance companies to get an idea how much insurance goes up. Average is around 20% they said, so I'd pay an extra 40 dollars a month.. Far from whats been suggested here by many, that I'd be paying upwards of $6000.
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I'm not sure where they got the 6k/year that a few people have said it would be, I know a guy who's gotten 2 DUI's in the last 5 years, hes paying about 1/2 that, 280/month for full coverage on a brand new truck.
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04-13-2010, 10:32 AM
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#345
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Airdrie, Alberta
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Well it looks like either the officer was giving you a break in only suspending your license or he is a complete idiot . . . actually he is a complete idiot either way. Looks like all the above are fact and there can be no charge without a test.
I hope this officer in question gives his head a shake and gets it right next time.
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04-13-2010, 11:37 AM
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#346
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout
Let me ask you all a question.
Who here has tried pot?
Who in their lifetime has had one puff?
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Never, other than the whiff I get when I go into a house to arrest a bunch of scum bags.
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04-13-2010, 11:42 AM
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#347
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: CGY
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^ You're a cop too?
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04-13-2010, 12:14 PM
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#348
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Ben
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: God's Country (aka Cape Breton Island)
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Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale
^ You're a cop too?
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jolinar of malkshor is a super secret spy, CP hasn't figured out what agency yet, however I'm leaning toward Secret RCMP, Secret CSIS, or Secret NASA.
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04-13-2010, 12:32 PM
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#349
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: In my office, at the Ministry of Awesome!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout
jolinar of malkshor is a super secret spy, CP hasn't figured out what agency yet, however I'm leaning toward Secret RCMP, Secret CSIS, or Secret NASA.
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I wonder if he's been to the Smoon?
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04-13-2010, 12:33 PM
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#350
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: CGY
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jolinar of malkshor is a super secret spy, CP hasn't figured out what agency yet, however I'm leaning toward Secret RCMP, Secret CSIS, or Secret NASA.
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I already know the truth:
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04-13-2010, 12:39 PM
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#351
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Not sure
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russic
I recall talking to an insurance agent that mentioned that something like a stunting charge is treated the same way as a DUI when it comes to insurance rates. That should be enough to keep anybody from doing it.
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Stunting is a major conviction, DUI is criminal in they eyes of insurers. Not as bad but certainly not a good one to have on your record.
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04-13-2010, 12:42 PM
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#352
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Violating Copyrights
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout
jolinar of malkshor is a super secret spy, CP hasn't figured out what agency yet, however I'm leaning toward Secret RCMP, Secret CSIS, or Secret NASA.
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It's pretty obvious that he works at Stargate Command. Probably Canadian Forces stationed at Cheyenne mountain under the guise of working for NORAD.
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04-13-2010, 02:41 PM
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#353
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barnes
It's pretty obvious that he works at Stargate Command. Probably Canadian Forces stationed at Cheyenne mountain under the guise of working for NORAD.
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04-14-2010, 09:12 AM
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#354
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Section 203
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Originally Posted by thesmugger
The way I see it, if there was an error made by the officer there's no need to go with the oral appeal. They will review the officers report and simply see the mistake if there was indeed one.
If no mistake was made, I'll have to man up for my mistake and be thankful it wasn't a worse situation for me or anyone else.
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So now you want to man up since you think you'll get off?
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04-14-2010, 01:12 PM
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#355
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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There's nothing I hate worse than the term "man up" being used in reference to fighting the law to get a reduction in an infraction.
Like c'mon, if a woman is getting assaulted and you're a guy who walks right by because you value your safety over saving someone, then I'm all for that person being told to "man up". Or in a hockey game when a guy does something cheap and gets challenged by another player than yes, that player should "man up".
There's many situations where the term "man up" is appropriate, but to call out someone's manlyhood because they want to exercise their right to challenge the legal system? Give me a break.
When I hear it/read it, in reference to fighting the legal system I see it more as bitter people who are mad that someone's using their precious tax dollars to use the legal system, so they want to throw out an insult to try and bring that person down and make them feel inferior.
It reminds me of that Russell Peters joke where he's explaining how the asian guy at the mall tells guys to "be a man" as a last resort when guys are walking away from his kiosk without buying something.
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04-14-2010, 09:02 PM
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#356
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor
Never, other than the whiff I get when I go into a house to arrest a bunch of scum bags.
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YEAH! Get those pot smokers off the streets - I mean out of their own homes - and into prison asap!
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