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Old 01-31-2010, 11:08 AM   #341
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Im with OldSam and Flamesoholic... We should be ashamed as flames fans. He was a premier defenceman who got run out of town by us. We all profess to being fans of the home team, but when the chips are down, its time to run everyone out of town. Trade Iggy, trade Regehr, blow up the team! Im tired of this. I hope everyone is happy. I know Im not.
Im going to miss you Dion.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:09 AM   #342
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A couple years from now, this trade is Phaneuf and Aulie for White.

If the Flames don't go on a run this year or land a UFA, off ice matters aside this is going to look really really bad in retrospect.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:09 AM   #343
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lots of twitter talk about kovalchuk
What do we have left in terms of tradable assets?
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:09 AM   #344
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Can't say. I knew a deal was happening today, but didn't know about this one. The other one is still in the works I assume.

I am not Ecklund, and I dont post BS. Take a breath fellas.
Oh yeah? Do tell then...details...
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:09 AM   #345
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I think this is the kind of shake up we needed. Let Phaneuf go and blossom elsewhere, it wasn't happening here. Stajan and Hagman are not that bad at all. They'll fit in nice in the top six. And if you compare numbers, White has had a very similar season to Dion anyways. CGY wins in this deal...
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:10 AM   #346
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I will echo the general sentiment in my surprise in the lack of a big name coming back in the deal....Phaneuf may be having a bad year but I really thought they would go for more of a 1-for-1 trade for a big(ger) name offensive guy. Hagman is really the only decent piece imo. White was probably just thrown into the deal after the Sedins made him look silly over and over last night....please, Brent, play this guy vs the twins.
Honestly I didn't expect the flames to trade Phaneuf, I wanted to keep him and put more dedication into his game and play. Ever since Elisha and 6.5m came into the picture he has been on the decline.


That being said this hasn't been the first year where I have said this. Sad to see him go. Only hope what we get in return realizes the hard work and they turn out to put the effort Wellwood did and sometimes does for the Canucks

As for Dion.. If I was you.. my first words would have been "no the f'n leafs!!!"
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fan960 talking about how Regher should be much much better now
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It's not just the players back - $6.5 M is off the books. Like the Gilmour trade off-ice issues forced the gm's hand.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:10 AM   #349
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I have faith in Sutter still, and I added both Matt Stajan and Ian White to my fantasy hockey rosters Go Flames Go!
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Regher and Backlund plus Mayers and 2nd for Kovalchuk.

Book it.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:11 AM   #351
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Phaneuf had tears in his eyes as he addressed Calgary media at the dome
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:11 AM   #353
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You are drunk if you you think calgary wins this deal.

Seriously drunk.

We gave up more and got less than Boston got for an unsigned Phil Kessel. Put that in perspective
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:18 AM   #355
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Love Ian White, the guy is a player. Adds a rh shot to the D as well, something we've been missing.

Like Hagman, and Stajan should work well with Iggy.

Overall a little disappointed at the return.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:19 AM   #356
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I'm surprised Brian Burke doesn't have tears in his eyes from laughing so hard on how he ripped us off in this deal
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:19 AM   #357
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I am hopeful the rest of the team will get reenergized if indeed Dion was a problem in the dressing room. Lot of underachievers on the team this year beside Gio and Kipper.
The Euros are soft and we lost a hitter in Dion who can skate, pass and shoot. He might not be great defensively but he is skillful. Regehr and Sarich are both slow and not great at PA and PC.

Is Prust to be moved in another deal??
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There is also talk that Sutter is yakking to Rutherford- perhaps Whitney?
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:19 AM   #359
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At least for the remainder of the year Calgary wins this trade. In the unlikely event that this wins us a cup im sure everyone will look upon it fondly, even if no franchise cornerstone was acquired and retained.

It makes our team much better IMO, at least in the foreseeable future.
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Old 01-31-2010, 11:20 AM   #360
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Here is the salary cap breakdown:
....................09/10....10/11....11/12....12/13....13/14...Cap Hit
Hagman...........3.0.......3.0........3.0.......UF A................3.0
Mayers............1.4.......UFA................... ....................1.33
Stajan.............1.75.....UFA................... ....................1.75
White..............0.95.....RFA................... ....................0.85
Total cap hit....6.93......3.0........3.0................... ..............

Sjostrom.........0.75......0.75......UFA.......... .................0.75
Phaneuf..........6.5........7.0.......6.5.......6. 5........5.5......6.5
Total Cap Hit...7.25......7.25.............................. ..............

This year, Calgary gets .33 in cap relief. Next year, calgary gets 4.25 in cap relief.

Guys coming in
Hagman LW (30) from Finland, on pace for 29 goals, 48 points
Stajan C (26) from Ontario, on pace for 60 points
White D (25) from Manitoba, on pace for 48 points
Mayers (35) from Ontario, is a plugger who can't score

Overall, I am disappointed with this deal. I don't like giving up a big time player without getting one back. Phaneuf must have been a problem, and the team simply needed to unload him. The Flames also need help up front, which they got. They also could conceivably have White and Stajan stick around with the Flames for awhile, as they are in that mid-20s range, which means their best years are about to unfold. Hagman's offfense will also help this team.
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