Huberdeau's agent: "Negativity sucks the joy right out of players"

[Toonage]

Podcast is up if you're interested

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

I honestly believe that the best thing for this team is a complete enema. From top to bottom. Replace the President, GM, Scouts, Coach, all of it. We need a total organizational overhaul.

And I say this as someone who typically never blames the coaches. But I have it on pretty good authority that the dysfunction is rampant among all levels of the team right now. It’s a complete and total mess from top to bottom.

I really want to do what Montreal is doing. They staffed up with St. Louis, Lecavalier, a modern GM and have a clear organizational objective where everyone is pulling together.

St. Louis knows he has to embrace the youth and teach them as they go.

The fans are absolutely on board with it, and they have faces on the franchise they can trust - and again, a clear direction.

In comparison? The Flames have no clear direction. Weegar/Huberdeau fell into their laps, they threw stacks and stacks and stacks of cash at them (probably in response to being hurt by Gaudreau/Tkachuk leaving and trying to save face), and it's all a complete dud. Where's the direction? Hell, who's the face of the franchise? The grumpy coach? The very expensive 115 point winger who is now a 50 point winger who just had his agent take a swipe at the coach/org?

What the hell are we cheering for in Calgary?

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I really want to do what Montreal is doing. They staffed up with St. Louis, Lecavalier, a modern GM and have a clear organizational objective where everyone is pulling together.

St. Louis knows he has to embrace the youth and teach them as they go.

The fans are absolutely on board with it, and they have faces on the franchise they can trust - and again, a clear direction.

In comparison? The Flames have no clear direction. Weegar/Huberdeau fell into their laps, they threw stacks and stacks and stacks of cash at them (probably in response to being hurt by Gaudreau/Tkachuk leaving and trying to save face), and it's all a complete dud. Where's the direction? Hell, who's the face of the franchise? The grumpy coach? The very expensive 115 point winger who is now a 50 point winger who just had his agent take a swipe at the coach/org?

What the hell are we cheering for in Calgary?

To experience the first round of the playoffs lol

[alnigi]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Just bonkers and still hilarious to me how some of this fanbase wants to kick out literally the only member of the organization that has shown unwavering loyalty and wants to see this city win a Stanley Cup as much as we do.

You deserve continued Flames gloom

And who might be this only member in all the organization with unwavering loyalty ? In turn the rest of us deserve gloom.

[Aarongavey]

Too much Marek. Darryl has been a coach for a longtime, there must be supportive quotes about him from former players on twitter by now. Let’s post those. Right now it seems like players just hate playing for him.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Too much Marek. Darryl has been a coach for a longtime, there must be supportive quotes about him from former players on twitter by now. Let’s post those. Right now it seems like players just hate playing for him.

Haven’t seen anything from former players on Twitter or anywhere on social media today

[AustinL_NHL]

Someone should send a package of adult diapers to the Dome for Huberdeau with how much he needs to be cradled in Sutter's environment.

Maybe a soother too.

Poor guy.

[Teroy]

I feel so sorry for these multi million dollar players. I can only imagine if I was being paid big dollars by a company and needed to be having fun to do my job, that my spouse would go public to express my dissatisfaction. This whole discussion is ridiculous.
I didn't think "having fun" had anything to do with earning your pay. Either you're earning your salary or get fired (in this case traded).
Some of you treat these guys like children. Some of you would trade away the whole team to gather players around that Huberdeau can play with. Sounds to me that these new guys should be the ones who should be getting the big bucks.
Imagine how Dube must feel working his butt off and making a measly 2.3 million let alone 10. And here I spent my life making 40k and my boss didn't let me have fun. Oh, poor me.

[Classic_Sniper]

Honestly, what is there for Huberdeau to complain about? Sutter has given him the easiest role on the team and he’s still not producing. It’s not like he’s constantly starting him in the dzone, asking him to shutdown the opposition’s top forwards or forcing him to kill penalties.

He has nothing to complain about nor does he have anyone else to blame but himself for being so one dimensional. Tons of other players on this team are producing just fine under Sutter while also playing the right way. Nobody else on this team is making the same wild passes, constantly turning pucks over and losing the most basic puck battles.

I knew his game was pretty soft even before he was a Flame, but man, I didn’t know his will was equally as soft. Treliving screwed up badly trading and re-signing this already overpaid, one dimensional, prima donna who struggles with playoff style hockey. He thinks it’s tough now in the regular season? Wait until the playoffs where the intensity is even higher, checking is even tighter and board battles + 50/50s are even more pronounced.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Haven’t seen anything from former players on Twitter or anywhere on social media today

Weird, maybe Twitter is broken.

[blankall]

This team clearly has the personal to do well...Just no results.

The depth is great, including at centre. Kadri-Lindholm-Backlund. Then at the wings they have Huberdeau, Mangiapane, Toffoli, Coleman, Dube, and Pelletier. Yet they still can't find the back of the net.

They might have the deepest defence in the league, and they are playing in front of a recent Vezina candidate....

Totally shocking how poorly this team is performing. No reason for it. I know my post isn't really adding much to the conversation...but this whole situation is frustrating.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Too much Marek. Darryl has been a coach for a longtime, there must be supportive quotes about him from former players on twitter by now. Let’s post those. Right now it seems like players just hate playing for him.

I can't quite get your angle about the former players support... Is your point that because no one is currently defending him that he is basically unanimously unpopular amongst his former players? Just trying to clarify because it seems like an odd take.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by blankall

This team clearly has the personal to do well...Just no results.

The depth is great, including at centre. Kadri-Lindholm-Backlund. Then at the wings they have Huberdeau, Mangiapane, Toffoli, Coleman, Dube, and Pelletier. Yet they still can't find the back of the net.

They might have the deepest defence in the league, and they are playing in front of a recent Vezina candidate....

Totally shocking how poorly this team is performing. No reason for it. I know my post isn't really adding much to the conversation...but this whole situation is frustrating.

Look at the goalies save percentage this year.

[CSharp]

Negativity is only relative. Think about this - the Flames just had 2-Bedard Points last night!

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Major Major

I can't quite get your angle about the former players support... Is your point that because no one is currently defending him that he is basically unanimously unpopular amongst his former players? Just trying to clarify because it seems like an odd take.

You have to keep in mind that most of Gaveys posts are an unrelenting commitment to his sarcastic shtick
Very little of what he posts reflects what he actually thinks or feels

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

This is not a locker room issue or the players not liking each other thing.

This is strictly players who have turned on Sutter. They don't like him and the defensive play of the team speaks volumes.

The team with the 5th best xGA60 in the league has defensive play that speaks volumes of how a team doesn't like their coach or the system they play?

There are plenty of things to jump to conclusions on this morning, why pick something anyone can just look up?

[mile]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1626657958670241792

https://twitter.com/user/status/1626661790749966336

https://twitter.com/user/status/1626662131298086912

[dirk diggler]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I really want to do what Montreal is doing. They staffed up with St. Louis, Lecavalier, a modern GM and have a clear organizational objective where everyone is pulling together.

St. Louis knows he has to embrace the youth and teach them as they go.

The fans are absolutely on board with it, and they have faces on the franchise they can trust - and again, a clear direction.

In comparison? The Flames have no clear direction. Weegar/Huberdeau fell into their laps, they threw stacks and stacks and stacks of cash at them (probably in response to being hurt by Gaudreau/Tkachuk leaving and trying to save face), and it's all a complete dud. Where's the direction? Hell, who's the face of the franchise? The grumpy coach? The very expensive 115 point winger who is now a 50 point winger who just had his agent take a swipe at the coach/org?

What the hell are we cheering for in Calgary?

I have never bought the narrative that you cant rebuild in a canadian market, i know myself and many Flames fans have wanted a strong rebuild for years, many canuck fans have also. it needs to happen. the hope to just make the playoffs is unacceptable.

[dirk diggler]

Sutter might not be the answer but thats the problem, no coach is ever the answer in Calgary. properly run franchises don't have new coaches every year or two.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Just bonkers and still hilarious to me how some of this fanbase wants to kick out literally the only member of the organization that has shown unwavering loyalty and wants to see this city win a Stanley Cup as much as we do.

You deserve continued Flames gloom

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Someone should send a package of adult diapers to the Dome for Huberdeau with how much he needs to be cradled in Sutter's environment.

Maybe a soother too.

Poor guy.

Your defense of Sutter has become quite hilarious, and it almost feels personal.

I don't want him fired.

But let's be honest he's not some type of Flames hero. He had a great season in 03-04, left as coach after 05-06 playoff collapse, went on to become a terrible GM.

Came back in 20-21 and things didn't quite turn around that season (many of the same issues as this year TBH), he had good season in 21-22, and has had a lot of issues since the playoff round against the Oilers where IMO he's failed to make a lot of adjustments.

I think what Walsh did was stupid - but I don't think there also isn't some truth to the criticisms