01-21-2023, 07:42 PM
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#341
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First Line Centre
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I thought Pelletier looked good, was happy he got to make his debut. I don’t know why Sutter insulted Pelletier even if he was really just trying to get at a media member.
Also, the Flames played great! Vladar was very solid, and I was super happy to see them get a big win.
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01-21-2023, 07:44 PM
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#342
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Voted for Kodos
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Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit
We still have people here that think his joke about taking a dump was meant to be taken seriously.
Sutter purposely screws with the media, it's something people here always mentioned as something they love about Sutter. For some reason I don't understand, that narrative changed this year
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I never got why people were upset about the “taking a dump” comment either.
Clearly a joke as well.
Sutter’s a farmer, he’s going to be crude like a farmer might from time to time.
But that instance too, he clearly got EXACTLY what he wanted. He took any embarrassment upon himself instead of the player. He “diffused” the situation. Just like he did today.
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01-21-2023, 07:46 PM
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#343
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Yes. I do think a prospect who can sign with the Flames, and who may be looking to sign with the Flames, as soon as 3 months from now is watching what is going on with the team that drafted him.
Specifically in regards to if it will be possible to sign and burn a year off your ELC and actually play NHL games.
If hes not paying attention personally his representation is for sure. Elliott Friedman made a comment about how the Flames handle their prospects last week, look at all the NHL media covering this press conference tonight. It be would be pretty ignorant to think somehow Coronato and his representation are oblivious to all this.
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Here’s your problem. There’s no this.
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01-21-2023, 07:47 PM
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#344
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Voted for Kodos
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Honestly, Eric Francis is a much bigger deterrent to guys wanting to sign here than Sutter could ever be.
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01-21-2023, 07:47 PM
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#345
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Thought Pelletier looked good out there in his limited action. One problem he may have is that he is one of the fastest forwards on the team. That may work if we had an elite passers who creates offence east/west rather than north south because it could create seams for a passer like that to create offence off the rush.
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Hm if only we had just acquired one of the best such passers in the league in the off-season.
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01-21-2023, 07:47 PM
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#346
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jan 2019
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If Pelletier plays Monday and gets 8-10 minutes of ice-time, do people change their tune? Asking for a friend…..
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01-21-2023, 07:48 PM
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#347
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Here’s your problem. There’s no this.
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There clearly is a trend. It's inherent to Sutter's approach. You can like his approach, or dislike it. I'm not a huge fan of it. But you have to acknowledge it exists. Just like you have to acknowledge this has always been how he's done interviews — which, again, you can be a fan of or not.
The common refrain in this thread has been "It's as if you've never seen a Sutter presser before!" Of course people have. That doesn't mean they have to like how they work.
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01-21-2023, 07:49 PM
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#348
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Franchise Player
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Missed the game today due to Chinese New Year stuff with the fam, and jumped into this thread to see that CP hasn't let me down... My opinion, Sutter's response had nothing to do with Pelletier and had everything to do with the reporter. He recently shared some off the record things Sutter said after a press conference, so my guess is Sutter found out and is being a dick to him. But wow, talk about over-reaction on here! It's as if you've never seen a Sutter presser before!
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01-21-2023, 07:51 PM
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#349
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed
Honestly, Eric Francis is a much bigger deterrent to guys wanting to sign here than Sutter could ever be.
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My guess is unless you play here, players have no idea who Eric Francis is.
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01-21-2023, 07:51 PM
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#350
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#1 Goaltender
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Sutter is good at putting the heat on himself instead of the team when he feels they need it. We have half the fans on here and the twitter mob anointing prospects as saviours which is definitely not a fair position for them to be in. He didn't even say anything bad about Pelletiers game.
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01-21-2023, 07:52 PM
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#351
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I'm just wondering who has anointed Pelletier as a saviour. It's a common refrain among those who tend to side with Sutter but it seems to me like a classic strawman argument.
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01-21-2023, 07:52 PM
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#352
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
How about Rob Kerr, Wed Gilbertson, Randy Sportak, Cam Robinson (Elite Prospects website) and many more.
Or all those guys hacks too?
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I didn't call anyone "hacks".
You mean this tweet by Kerr?
https://twitter.com/user/status/1616986473240367104
When I can decipher what he's talking about I may have an opinion.
Cam who?
Sportak:
https://twitter.com/user/status/1616938437545975809
Sutter's comments will have as much impact on future players preference to play or sign in Calgary as much as the fart I just ripped. What a ridiculous tweet.
Already discussed Gilbertson.
Just because a group of media persons want to make a mountain out of a mole hill doesn't mean they are right.
Bill Clinton killed a guy, I thought it was a matter of record. It's so obviously a shot at the media and they fell right into it. Watching the fans and people with an axe to grind against Sutter eat it up is magnificent.
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01-21-2023, 07:55 PM
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#353
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Here’s your problem. There’s no this.
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There is clearly a lack of willingness to play youngsters - one of his biggest supporters in Rhett Warriner even just called it out.
There is clearly a bias towards bigger players - for Sutter he's clearly not a fan of the risk of a young, small player. Proven NHLer then sure he will deal with it, but I don't think he wants to be the one to find out if a smaller player can cut it.
And there is clearly some disrespectful trends towards these young players in the media. You can say that it's him trolling the media, or that he's always done this, but it doesn't change the fact that the narrative is out there in NHL circles now.
So yes there is a "this". Eliotte Friedman already made mention of it two weeks ago, and it seems to be even more widespread now tonight.
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01-21-2023, 08:00 PM
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#354
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DB93
If Pelletier plays Monday and gets 8-10 minutes of ice-time, do people change their tune? Asking for a friend…..
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Doubt it, they’ll be complaining until we swap the whole NHL roster for the AHL roster and GG returns.
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01-21-2023, 08:01 PM
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#355
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
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Never seen this many fans (and media alike) so butthurt and agitated over such a trivial nothingburger of a story before. It's equally hilarious and pathetic.
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01-21-2023, 08:03 PM
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#356
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I find it very humourous that people are suggesting the only options are Darryl or a Ward/Gulutzan type.
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01-21-2023, 08:06 PM
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#357
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I find it very humourous that people are suggesting the only options are Darryl or a Ward/Gulutzan type.
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Lol, who would you bring in as a replacement head coach?
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01-21-2023, 08:06 PM
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#358
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Scoring Winger
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People on here and in the media calling the reigning Jack Adams winner a bad coach and a "dinosaur" make me laugh. Clearly a slow news day in the NHL...
I will not throw the Calgary media under the bus, but Eric Francis has always been a tool who will throw any member of the organization under the bus for clicks.
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01-21-2023, 08:06 PM
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#359
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by direwolf
Never seen this many fans (and media alike) so butthurt and agitated over such a trivial nothingburger of a story before. It's equally hilarious and pathetic.
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May somebody love you as much as Flames fans hate reigning Jack Adams winner Darryl Sutter.
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01-21-2023, 08:08 PM
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#360
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Franchise Player
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Meanwhile the Canucks are making a guy coach one last game when everyone knows he is getting fired Monday
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