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Old 11-03-2021, 04:49 PM   #341
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Apologies if already asked....If Tkachuk is actually being offered here, how is Vegas beating this deal?
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Presumably the Sabres like Krebs more than any of the futures in the Flames package.
Maybe Buffalo would turn around and move Tkachuk to VGK in exchange for Krebs?
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Old 11-03-2021, 04:50 PM   #342
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Ackchyually you are correct. I did not realize he switched to #7. Sorry huge pic

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Hate this (unless they KNOW Chucky is 100% not re-signing)
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Hate this (unless they KNOW Chucky is 100% not re-signing)
I'd bet they do.
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Tkachuk, Zadorov, 2024 1st, two non-top tier prospects (say Ruzicka and Poirier), and you think Buffalo says yes? That technically meets Weekes' description - I think there's too much range in that description to know what's actually being offered, if it were actually true.
I think we can reasonably guess that former 1st round pick, even if he is one, is not a good way to define Zadorov.
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Hate this (unless they KNOW Chucky is 100% not re-signing)
Or they primarily want Eichel and know that they have to pick between a Johnny or Tkachuk extension. So they are using him in the deal.
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It’s Valimaki, not Zadarov.
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I think we can reasonably guess that former 1st round pick, even if he is one, is not a good way to define Zadorov.
It’s how Buffalo described it to Weeks to drive the price up.
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I think we can reasonably guess that former 1st round pick, even if he is one, is not a good way to define Zadorov.
Yeah, really only fits Valimaki but it is worded vaguely enough who knows. Likely a BS rumour but I never disliked Tkachuk as the centerpiece in an Eichel trade. He has caught the Flames curse, he talks a big game but hasn't produced when needed. Monahan going the other way would be way better for the Flames but the prospects would probably Zary and Coronato.
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No one actually believes it to be Zadorov.

It could be Valimaki, Zary, Pelletier or Coronato
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Watch Brad trade Chucky to Vegas lol
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Apparently that Tkachuk proposal is false
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Apparently that Tkachuk proposal is false
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yeah everybody hoping it's Zadorov is grasping at straws IMO. Has to be Valimaki. If they name Tkachuk (who obviously was a 1st himself), why wouldn't they name other vets who were 1st by name too? Zary, Coronato and Pelletier still fall in the prospect category. Valimaki is the only one who makes sense there ... and frankly, with the emergence of Kylington, I understand why the Flames might be okay with including him.
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You have to assume that the two other prospects are not former first rounders, otherwise why would they be listed in a separate category to the "former 1st rounder".

My guess is it's:

Tkachuk
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2 non-1st round prospects

That hurts, but if Tkachuk wants out anyways, it's not as big of a loss. Basically, both Buffalo and Calgary dealing two higher end players. Both clubs deal with their problems while getting something very nice in return. Win/Win....assuming Eichel comes back healthy.
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Watch Brad trade Chucky to Vegas lol
And Buffalo serve as a cap dump third party while Eichel stays locked up in purgatory indefinitely (RIP).
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Damn what a haul. I guess they aren't optimistic on getting Chucky to do a home town discount to stay with the Flames after RFA. How is this not done? Buffalo wants more ? Wow.
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You have to assume that the two other prospects are not former first rounders, otherwise why would they be listed in a separate category to the "former 1st rounder".

My guess is it's:

Tkachuk
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2 non-1st round prospects

That hurts, but if Tkachuk wants out anyways, it's not as big of a loss. Basically, both Buffalo and Calgary dealing two higher end players. Both clubs deal with their problems while getting something very nice in return. Win/Win....assuming Eichel comes back healthy.
Yeah, I think this is closest to the real offer.
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Apparently that Tkachuk proposal is false
It should be apparent by now that all these insiders are being played off one another by the teams involved in this deal.
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