[News] All-encompassing Bennett trade discussions thread

[Hackey]

I think I'd rather a 2nd round pick than a project. Bennett is still an NHL player and has potential. If you can't get a 2nd then I'm not sure hes worth trading unless he's really that unhappy.

[RM14]

Does he even have trade value?

[bzoo02]

It might not be the worst idea to give Sam a shot on LW, with JG on RW.
We know Sam can't handle RW, but that gives JG more looks on his off wing like last night's snipe. It also might encourage him to try less of those goal line shots that just rim out of the zone anyway.

Dump ins would need to be in LW corner to be effective though.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Don't see the Rangers doing that. I think the Flames keep him unless they get a decent return. Might as well keep him for another playoff run.

Have to get there first.

Now that this is public, this team will face questions daily about it. You cannot have a malcontent in a dressing room for very long before it starts to have a real effect on the whole squad.

This is a case of "the sooner the better" now.

I just dont think BT gets much of anything for him being he is an RFA at seasons end and requiring a 2.5M+ qualifying offer to any club that may want him as a reclamation project.

Maybe give it a couple weeks and hope some team runs into injury trouble, but beyond that, it is time to end this failed experiment.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by RM14

Does he even have trade value?

I'd toss a 2nd/3rd at him if he was on another team.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by RM14

Does he even have trade value?

He was nearly a point-per-game in the playoffs and tied for the lead in scoring with Monahan. Gotta be worth something.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Don't see the Rangers doing that. I think the Flames keep him unless they get a decent return. Might as well keep him for another playoff run.

Yeah, probably wishful thinking on my part. I’m with you that they might as well keep him for one last playoff run. I wouldn’t trade him for a pick right now , only because that means Nordstrom would be a full time player . If an injury occurs ( which it will) then we are down to the Rinaldos playing full time.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Have to get there first.

Now that this is public, this team will face questions daily about it. You cannot have a malcontent in a dressing room for very long before it starts to have a real effect on the whole squad.

This is a case of "the sooner the better" now.

It depends on how you read:
"There was a rumor going around (Saturday) morning that Bennett might want a change of scenery, and I did call his agent, Darren Ferris, who said, 'Yes, that's true, he would like it to be considered,'" Friedman reported on the latest edition of "Saturday Headlines."


That doesn't scream that he will cause issues. His leash is short contract wise as well. He will play nice or he doesn't get qualified and gets a league min contract somewhere.

I am also not too worried about finishing 4th in the North division.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Hackey

I think I'd rather a 2nd round pick than a project. Bennett is still an NHL player and has potential. If you can't get a 2nd then I'm not sure hes worth trading unless he's really that unhappy.

You're not getting a second round pick for Sam Bennett. Target a 4th and be happy with anything you can get. That $2.55M cap hit is going to make most teams head in the other direction. Bennett will likely be considered a rental and not going to garner much interest. The market will be small and the return will be underwhelming. A draft pick would be nice, but expect a contract back that also has significant warts.

[cannon7]

IMO, the last time Bennett got consistent quality top-six minutes Hartley was coach. Back when "always earned, never given" meant something. Honestly don't think there's anything Bennett can do now to get out of the basement with this organization, so not surprised by this development at all.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by cannon7

He was nearly a point-per-game in the playoffs and tied for the lead in scoring with Monahan. Gotta be worth something.

And he will be paid, primarily, on what he does in the regular season.

So that 10 game stretch will be obliterated by his 8 pt pace in a 56 game season or his career pace of 28 pts in an 82 game season.

Tack on the money needed to qualify him beyond this year and...yeah....not worth a lot.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Bonded

It depends on how you read:
"There was a rumor going around (Saturday) morning that Bennett might want a change of scenery, and I did call his agent, Darren Ferris, who said, 'Yes, that's true, he would like it to be considered,'" Friedman reported on the latest edition of "Saturday Headlines."


That doesn't scream that he will cause issues. His leash is short contract wise as well. He will play nice or he doesn't get qualified and gets a league min contract somewhere.

I am also not too worried about finishing 4th in the North division.

Not saying HE will cause issues but the fact this is all out there now will be a problem for everyone.

Its the same as when a player says they dont want to talk about contract extension beyond season start. It becomes a distraction for the whole team to be asked about it all year long and takes away from their focus.

This is nothing new.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by transplant99

And he will be paid, primarily, on what he does in the regular season.

So that 10 game stretch will be obliterated by his 8 pt pace in a 56 game season or his career pace of 28 pts in an 82 game season.

Tack on the money needed to qualify him beyond this year and...yeah....not worth a lot.

The Flames notwithstanding, there are GMs that build teams for playoff success. And I doubt Bennett has gone unnoticed there.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by cannon7

The Flames notwithstanding, there are GMs that build teams for playoff success. And I doubt Bennett has gone unnoticed there.

And none of those GM's carry guys for 82 games and a chunk of their salary cap just so those guys can play in the playoffs.

Again....he may or may not go off in the post season once again. No one knows but chances are good he will be at least better than his regular season self.

However he still has to be a contributor to actually get the team there.

[TheSquatch]

And that's the answer to the "How come he plays with plugs and they put Leivo or Simon on the top line?".

It's because the coaches are sick of Bennett's play-killing and penalty-taking. You can't give the guy more ice time because you can't spend more time on the PK. Same reason you don't throw Lucic over the boards for 30 minutes a night.

Same exact reason Lucic is on the 4th line is why Bennett is too.

I'm sure he asked for a trade last year, I'm sure he's dead sick of Calgary. Who wouldn't be in his place? But that doesn't change the fact that his hockey IQ is not high enough to be a top 6 NHL regular season guy. Playoff hockey is different, and he's more useful and productive there because of it. But other guys change their game for the playoffs, and Bennett has to as well.

So he'll go to whichever team feels strongly about a reclamation, and he'll play a ton of minutes for about a week, and then find himself on the 3rd line again.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Have to get there first.

Now that this is public, this team will face questions daily about it. You cannot have a malcontent in a dressing room for very long before it starts to have a real effect on the whole squad.

This is a case of "the sooner the better" now.

I just dont think BT gets much of anything for him being he is an RFA at seasons end and requiring a 2.5M+ qualifying offer to any club that may want him as a reclamation project.

Maybe give it a couple weeks and hope some team runs into injury trouble, but beyond that, it is time to end this failed experiment.

The Calgary media seems awfully easy going. I don’t see the Flames getting bombarded about a bottom roster player who wants a trade. And we don’t know if he’s a malcontent either necessarily.

In any case he’s not worth that much so I just don’t see this as big news nor should it have much of an impact on the team IMO. Trading Sam Bennett shouldn’t be at the top of BT’s list for improving this team.

[stang]

Tough time to make a trade. With tight cap and quarantine. Might have to keep his chin up and just play out till Seattle can take him.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

The Calgary media seems awfully easy going. I don’t see the Flames getting bombarded about a bottom roster player who wants a trade. And we don’t know if he’s a malcontent either necessarily.

In any case he’s not worth that much so I just don’t see this as big news nor should it have much of an impact on the team IMO. Trading Sam Bennett shouldn’t be at the top of BT’s list for improving this team.

Yet the story broke nationally on the single biggest viewership night of the week.

This is not a local story anymore. They are going to be asked about it no matter where they play.

Well we know he is not content here, because he wants to go somewhere else....so how can he not be malcontent?

I am not saying he will be raising hell in practice or moping about the locker room. I am saying media, everywhere, wont let this go until its resolved one way or the other.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by transplant99

And none of those GM's carry guys for 82 games and a chunk of their salary cap just so those guys can play in the playoffs.

They don't bury their top playoff performers, either.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by cannon7

They don't bury their top playoff performers, either.

GM's dont set the line up, coaches do.