[PGT] Flames blow it, lose 4-3 in OT in unacceptable fashion

[Beatle17]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Brodie made a good play that should have ended the game but for the refs skate. Not sure why the ref isn't in the corner...if there is a close call they will review anyway

But he tried twice previously to clear the puck the same way and instead of the ref, Josi stopped the puck. Eat it in the corner for 10 seconds, or as others have stated break someone's stick or tackle someone.

Good defence is always keep yourself between a guy in scoring position and the net. 5 Flames players on the ice did not do that, 3 Preds were at the crease banging away while the Flames had 2 defencemen behind the net and the 3 forwards between the players in the crease and the points. Poor defence.

[Toonage]

If you're taking an intentional penalty in the dying seconds, make sure its one where the whistle is blown immediately. Push the net off. Any penalty that requires you to have possession for the call to be made doesn't work.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Toonage

If you're taking an intentional penalty in the dying seconds, make sure its one where the whistle is blown immediately. Push the net off. Any penalty that requires you to have possession for the call to be made doesn't work.

Or, as I think they are saying, just blatantly tackle everyone. I doubt it even gets called.

Watch the magical 1986 game 7 in the final minutes after the Steve Smyth goal. Bozek grabs two Oilers in a bear hug and pulls them both over. It's hilarious.

[colbym72]

Originally Posted by Toonage

If you're taking an intentional penalty in the dying seconds, make sure its one where the whistle is blown immediately. Push the net off. Any penalty that requires you to have possession for the call to be made doesn't work.

I wonder what the NHLs punishment would be for pushing the net off that intentionally. I remember seeing a clip of some other league in the world where the goalie did it on a breakaway

[Sylvanfan]

If I was coaching an NHL team with a one goal lead, I would be advising my players...less than 5 seconds leftbear hug the closest guy to you, and one of you can take out two guys within reach grab both of them. By the time they call the penalty you might be down to 2 seconds left, and worst case you are two guys short for a faceoff.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by colbym72

I wonder what the NHLs punishment would be for pushing the net off that intentionally. I remember seeing a clip of some other league in the world where the goalie did it on a breakaway

They changed the rule because of that play. It's now a penalty shot if done on a breakaway. But in that scramble it'd be a normal 2 minute minor.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Toonage

If you're taking an intentional penalty in the dying seconds, make sure its one where the whistle is blown immediately. Push the net off. Any penalty that requires you to have possession for the call to be made doesn't work.

I think you're missing the point of committing penalized acts in the dying seconds. It's not to get the penalty call whistle to save you, it's the actual act of the illegal plays stopping all the opposing players from scoring a goal.

If you check and smash sticks all around the front of the net, it's the checking and stick smashing that saves the goal, not hoping you draw a whistle for a penalty. In fact the whole point of such a tactic is that you never get that penalty call as the game ends.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Toonage

If you're taking an intentional penalty in the dying seconds, make sure its one where the whistle is blown immediately. Push the net off. Any penalty that requires you to have possession for the call to be made doesn't work.

Pushing the net off would be one of the worst things to do. It's an automatic penalty shot when done intentionally late in a game.

"Intentionally dislodging the net from its moorings when the penalty cannot be served in its entirety within regulation time"

That's why I stand by my call to just smash any opponents sticks around the net. Granlund doesn't score that goal if his stick is in pieces.

[AC]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They changed the rule because of that play. It's now a penalty shot if done on a breakaway. But in that scramble it'd be a normal 2 minute minor.

Also a penalty shot if done to eliminate a chance near the end of the game as I quoted above.

Though again, it's not about getting a whistle late but just eliminating scoring threats from around the net.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I don't see why Nashville is a lock and Calgary isn't

Also I really don't see Minnesota as much of a threat, and Calgary has a game in hand on Winnipeg and has more points

I think the odds are better that Calgary finishes in a divisional spot than if they miss

If anything that game told me Calgary is better than Nashville. It should have been 2 or 3-1 at the end of the first period. Calgary had an answer defensively for almost everything Nashville threw at them. It so happened that 3 defensive miscues ended up in the net.

[tvp2003]

Re: Nashville -- they just got Ryan Ellis back in the lineup, which is huge for them (I realize we can say the same thing about us getting Gio back). Plus, they were saying on the pre-game show that Nashville was 5th in the league in five on five play (I forget the stat), among the likes of league leaders like Boston and Tampa. In other words, it's really been their special teams that have failed them.

The Flames played them stride for stride (if not better), in Nashville, without the benefit of any powerplays, and had the game won until the final 0.1 second. Lots of positives despite the nightmare finish.

They've shown some good resiliency the last few weeks so I hope this translates into a win against Tampa, and then closing out the road trip against Florida. Two more wins means 9 out of a possible 10 points and a confident group coming home.

[Toonage]

Good info, thank you everyone

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

resiliency

Kelly?

[EldrickOnIce]

Fantastic game.
With less than 10 seconds left you hook, hold, trip, jump on all guys who have any chance to score. 5hats how you close it out

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by AC

Pushing the net off would be one of the worst things to do. It's an automatic penalty shot when done intentionally late in a game.



"Intentionally dislodging the net from its moorings when the penalty cannot be served in its entirety within regulation time"



That's why I stand by my call to just smash any opponents sticks around the net. Granlund doesn't score that goal if his stick is in pieces.

I feel it was Datsyuk I remember from years ago doing that exact thing stopping somebody from going on a breakaway by destroying their stick or taking them down.

[FiveSeven]

Everything is 20/20 in hindsight but there are so many options open all which would of been better then was transpired. Just ####ing level granlund, crosscheck him, break his stick, whatever. That's the one thing that really irks me. Theres 10 seconds left who cares if you take a penalty. The whole chasing the guy behind the net could of worked fine and its understandable.

[dino7c]

It's annoying because I am smart enough to do it in beer league but NHL players aren't in this case.

Last 10 seconds grab a guys stick, bear hug ect. Sure they get super pissed off and you will probably take a punch or slash but you win the game

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Fantastic game.
With less than 10 seconds left you hook, hold, trip, jump on all guys who have any chance to score. 5hats how you close it out

Yup

There is no consequence at that stage. Do anything and everything. Hope the players are reminded of that.

In fact I'm surprised not more teams just jump any open players in front of the net at that stage in the game with a one goal lead.

[btimbit]

Agreed. Even just sit on the puck Kesler style. As much as we hated that, you can't argue about how well it worked

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Yup

There is no consequence at that stage. Do anything and everything. Hope the players are reminded of that.

In fact I'm surprised not more teams just jump any open players in front of the net at that stage in the game with a one goal lead.

Who did it one time, down 5-3 with almost no time left. They kept taking penalties to prevent a goal, knowing that another penalty was unlikely to ever 'count'.
Maybe I'm making that up?