[Signing] Flames sign Gaudreau and Arnold. Will be available for Sunday's game against Canucks

[sureLoss]

[Day Tripper]

Originally Posted by AC

Which of those players won the Hobey Baker at his age?

Ryan Miller was the only one who won it as his age, and Paul Kariya is the only one who won it younger.

[saXon]

Originally Posted by SoCalFlamesFan

Umm. Every single one of them.

And how many of those players tied Paul Kariya's record?


Only one....Paul Kariya. Yeah.


Take your negative nancy elsewhere.

[icecube]

Originally Posted by SoCalFlamesFan

Is this how far we've fallen as the Flames? That we're celebrating the signing of a 5'7", 160lb 4th round draft pick like the second coming?

Great that he's had some success in his college career but really people. Look at this list. How many of these players were anything in the NHL? 6 or 7? Of them who are real difference makers? 2 players in twenty plus years?


1993 Paul Kariya
1994 Chris Marinucci
1995 Brian Holzinger
1996 Brian Bonin
1997 Brendan Morrison
1998 Chris Drury
1999 Jason Krog
2000 Mike Mottau
2001 Ryan Miller
2002 Jordan Leopold
2003 Peter Sejna
2004 Junior Lessard
2005 Marty Sertich
2007 Ryan Duncan
2008 Kevin Porter
2009 Matt Gilroy
2010 Blake Geoffrion
2011 Andy Miele
2012 Jack Connolly
2013 Drew LeBlanc

Listen, I hope he's Paul Kariya v.2 ... but lets get real. I really don't get the joy. 99% of people here have never even seen him play. His chances of being an NHL player are pretty small imo. The odds are really against him. Just shaking my head at all the media hype and ridiculous nonsense surrounding a mid round pick signing a contract.

[sureLoss]

[DOOM]

"99% of people here have never seen him play"

Uh, lol, what?

[SoCalFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Scoutski

There are other factors that build the hype compared to the others in that list:

- 1st Junior since 2001 to win Hobey (Ryan Miller has done okay in the NHL)
- Most points of a player since 2003 (and was only 3 points behind that) AND he's a junior.
- And technically you're already wrong if he's going to be playing on Sunday, that makes him an NHL player.

Technically. Not due to any actual merit outside of a PR stunt. Let's see how he does after a training camp etc. next year.

[Split98]

Originally Posted by SoCalFlamesFan

Is this how far we've fallen as the Flames? That we're celebrating the signing of a 5'7", 160lb 4th round draft pick like the second coming?

Great that he's had some success in his college career but really people. Look at this list. How many of these players were anything in the-- blah blah blah

I'm sorry... what were you saying?

[SoCalFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by DOOM

"99% of people here have never seen him play"

Uh, lol, what?

Have you seen him play?

[theoforever]

Originally Posted by SoCalFlamesFan

Technically. Not due to any actual merit outside of a PR stunt. Let's see how he does after a training camp etc. next year.

Did your mother tell you that if you have nothing nice to say.........

[sureLoss]

only player in history to win a USHL championship, NCAA championship and WJC championship

should have had 2 hobey baker awards

won too many hockey awards to list off in a reasonable time

As a us college bound prospect you can't get a much more storied amateur career.

perhaps one of the most offensively skilled prospects the Flames have had in modern history...

if you can't get a little excited about that, than i feel sorry for you

does he still have a long way to go still ... yes, but it should be a fun journey

[jg13]

Wes Gilbertson ‏@SUNGilbertson

#Flames Johnny Gaudreau: “If I'm playing Sunday, that would be a special time for me and my family and something I always dreamed about.”

More Gaudreau: “From the second I got drafted to Calgary, I thought it was a pretty special place and I knew it was a great organization.”

[Coach]

Originally Posted by SoCalFlamesFan

Is this how far we've fallen as the Flames? That we're celebrating the signing of a 5'7", 160lb 4th round draft pick like the second coming?

Great that he's had some success in his college career but really people. Look at this list. How many of these players were anything in the NHL? 6 or 7? Of them who are real difference makers? 2 players in twenty plus years?


1993 Paul Kariya
1994 Chris Marinucci
1995 Brian Holzinger
1996 Brian Bonin
1997 Brendan Morrison
1998 Chris Drury
1999 Jason Krog
2000 Mike Mottau
2001 Ryan Miller
2002 Jordan Leopold
2003 Peter Sejna
2004 Junior Lessard
2005 Marty Sertich
2007 Ryan Duncan
2008 Kevin Porter
2009 Matt Gilroy
2010 Blake Geoffrion
2011 Andy Miele
2012 Jack Connolly
2013 Drew LeBlanc

Listen, I hope he's Paul Kariya v.2 ... but lets get real. I really don't get the joy. 99% of people here have never even seen him play. His chances of being an NHL player are pretty small imo. The odds are really against him. Just shaking my head at all the media hype and ridiculous nonsense surrounding a mid round pick signing a contract.

I fear you are underestimating the sneakiness....

[SoCalFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by theoforever

Did your mother tell you that if you have nothing nice to say.........

I haven't said anything not nice. Just of my perspective. We should be celebrating wins and playoffs. This is how far we've fallen.

[terminator]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

only player in history to win a USHL championship, NCAA championship and WJC championship

should have had 2 hobey baker awards

won too many hockey awards to list off in a reasonable time

As a us college bound prospect you can't get a much more storied amateur career.

perhaps one of the most offensively skilled prospects the Flames have had in modern history...

if you can't get a little excited about that, than i feel sorry for you

does he still have a long way to go still ... yes, but it should be a fun journey

I would think all are excited for sure! But let's give him a chance before svenning him

[SebC]

Originally Posted by SoCalFlamesFan

Have you seen him play?

World Juniors, Frozen Four...

[devo22]

Originally Posted by jg13

Wes Gilbertson ‏@SUNGilbertson

#Flames Johnny Gaudreau: “If I'm playing Sunday, that would be a special time for me and my family and something I always dreamed about.”

More Gaudreau: “From the second I got drafted to Calgary, I thought it was a pretty special place and I knew it was a great organization.”

great, but did he sound excited enough when he made those statements?

[jg13]

In case you missed Gaudreau on the fan 960 about a half hour ago you can relisten here

http://pmd.fan960.com/audio_on_deman...-Interview.mp3

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Originally Posted by SoCalFlamesFan

I haven't said anything not nice. Just of my perspective. We should be celebrating wins and playoffs. This is how far we've fallen.

Actually a valid point, reminds me kinda of the oilers and Schultz

[dash_pinched]

Originally Posted by SoCalFlamesFan

I haven't said anything not nice. Just of my perspective. We should be celebrating wins and playoffs. This is how far we've fallen.

I've seen plenty of celebrating of wins this season. Playoffs will be coming in the not too distant future, hopefully.

Patience, grasshopper.