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Old 11-06-2013, 03:35 PM   #3541
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Heh, I'm not sure I entirely understood that scene (Michonne and Daryl), I'll have to watch it again.

As for Tyrese, not enjoying him too much, too much rage, too much of a loose cannon. Of course, that's probably supposed to be the point.

Michonne can keep her brooding facade, that's fine with me. Just was musing about the possibility of there being a light scene every once in a while.

Actually, as Carol left, I was a little sad they never did get to advance the Daryl-Carol tryst. I think she offered on two occasions. Daryl shoulda gave it up! Haha!
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Old 11-06-2013, 04:46 PM   #3542
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The other inexcusable event of season 2.

When that moron shoots at the redneck mistakenly because they thought he was a walker.

This is just tacky add-on drama but it makes zero sense both the event and the events after it.

The show has proven that one walker versus one human is basically no match for the walker. This is one walker against five humans prepared with arms.

The woman on the RV decides that it's a good idea to shoot at the walker while her human contemporaries are between her and the walker with zero real threat to any of them. So ok, you say, maybe that's her character, that she's a huge arse hole and would risk killing one of her pack for the chance at target practice. I guess that's admissible.

What is NOT admissible is the reaction of the other characters. She a) almost mistakenly killed one of them when they said don't shoot and b) she endagered the lives of all six people as they were about 300 yards away and she's a rookie shot, it's just as likely she shoots one of them in the back. So what do the other characters do? NOTHING.

The normal thing to do during a zombie apocalypse would have been to boot stomp her to death for cavalierly endangering their lives. There would be zero reason to have this person around. But no, nobody says anything to her. Nobody says, WTF were you doing? I understand this is the zombie apocalypse but come on.
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:08 PM   #3543
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Oh good. Tinordi is taking over for Bertuzzied.
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:21 PM   #3544
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Just in the middle of season 2, my god is it bad. Punctuated by lowering the dude in a zombie well. Horrible.
I can not forgive this scene. Okay fine, maybe I've been a bit too critical of the other stuff but that episode's writing was terrible.

Using Glenn as live bait when there were animals on the farm and securing him to a rusty pole was one thing. It adds suspense despite being absolute terrible decision making by the characters, I get it.

The biggest problem was the idea that they would risk Glenn's life to remove the zombie so the water wouldn't be contaminated. That was the whole idea. But the zombie had been soaking in there for who knows how long. He's a zombie, he probably had lacerations prior to falling in, if he didn't he certainly did after falling. That water was contaminated by the zombie juice they were afraid of drinking long before they got it out. Should have thrown a brick down, permanently closed the well and call it a day.

And I understand many other fans would rather just discuss the episodes instead of the writing (although I believe they go hand in hand) so I'll refrain from similar posts like this later, just wanted to get that stupid well zombie off my chest again. Last time I swear :P
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Old 11-07-2013, 12:58 AM   #3545
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Are you saying there aren't honest people in this world? Just because governments, corporations, and scumbags frequently lie it doesn't mean that people in general are not trustworthy.
No, but what you were saying sounded more like everyone is honest in this world. And really lying and trustworthiness aren't completely mutually exclusive . People in real life, even trustworthy people, tell lies all the time. Some people do it to protect themselves, some do it to protect others. Some just lie for the sake of lying. The idea of Rick lying isn't out of the question here. Hell, it's par for the course, seeing as how long he kept the fact that he killed Shane secret, among other things.
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:11 AM   #3546
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No, but what you were saying sounded more like everyone is honest in this world. And really lying and trustworthiness aren't completely mutually exclusive . People in real life, even trustworthy people, tell lies all the time. Some people do it to protect themselves, some do it to protect others. Some just lie for the sake of lying. The idea of Rick lying isn't out of the question here. Hell, it's par for the course, seeing as how long he kept the fact that he killed Shane secret, among other things.
Actually he told the group about Shane right away. Rick kills Shane at the end of that episode, and then after they escape the walkers and the farm and people start to think they should split up Rick tells them all he killed Shane.
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Old 11-07-2013, 07:25 AM   #3547
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Actually he told the group about Shane right away. Rick kills Shane at the end of that episode, and then after they escape the walkers and the farm and people start to think they should split up Rick tells them all he killed Shane.
Yep and the show has set a standard that Rick is a guy that will do the right thing and not lie. Would be disappointing if they decide to change that just to make some silly side drama. Him telling the truth should create drama anyway as Tyrese and Darryl are tied to her for different reasons which should generate friction. There's no logical reason Rick would lie as long as he knows Carol is alive as he cannot know for sure that they won't cross paths again. If she died then yeah I guess he could lie as the chances of it blowing up in his face are very slim but she knows where the prison is and is close to that girl and it's not out of the realm of possibility she returns or leaves some indication that she's still alive somewhere. He would be foolish to say anything but the truth.

I realize it's a zombie show so some realism should be suspended but I hope the writers are decent enough to not manipulate characters and make them do stupid things just to introduce drama. That's just cheap and good writers can use creative ways of introducing drama without making the main characters look like idiots in the process which is something the writers of this show are guilty of a little too often IMO.
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:00 PM   #3548
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Holy F.

What an episode. And next week is going to be awesome.
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Old 11-10-2013, 08:37 PM   #3549
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Great episode ruined by the final shot.

I hate that actor and that character.
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Has anyone done the two screen sync?
Does it add to the show or just a distraction?
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Great episode ruined by the final shot.

I hate that actor and that character.
You knew he was going to show up eventually
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Old 11-10-2013, 11:50 PM   #3552
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Excellent episode. Most enjoyable in quite some time. Well done.
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Old 11-11-2013, 12:10 AM   #3553
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Has anyone done the two screen sync?
Does it add to the show or just a distraction?
I tried it for the first time tonight. Some silly polls and distractions for during the commercials. Once things got going in this episode, I didn't want to look away. But I did feel a little pull to see what was popping up on the iPad, which drew me out of the show a bit. So, I don't think I'll try it again.
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Old 11-11-2013, 12:22 AM   #3554
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they need Anton Chigurh with his cattle bolt at the fences. Problem solved.
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The Governor makes this show better. Sure you hate him, even despise him, but that means that he's serving his purpose as the main villain. He's probably one of the few things this show actually got right imo. When he was hunting down Andrea... just seemed like he'd completely lost it. Dude is just pure evil. It's great. Fighting off fevers and stabbing zombies through fences just doesn't compare to some real human conflict. Should be good.

Oh and heads up: apparently the following 2 episodes are Governor centric, so don't expect much development with the main group. We're gonna get filled in on his whereabouts for a bit, then the timelines will merge.
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3 episodes left? 2 for Governor backstory, then 1 for a clash with him and the prison, end with the typical mid season cliffhanger. Sounds about right, I can't wait.
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Old 11-11-2013, 08:31 AM   #3557
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The Gov is hit and miss for me. I really could have done without that zombie falling into the fire, and the quick shot to a house on fire and him standing in front. That was some cheesy s**t even for this show. Especially after probably one of the best acted episodes of the series. Felt like one step forward and two back.

I also think David Morrissey could be a good actor, but in this role he just comes off bad. Some moments he is very good, but most often it is soap opera level acting. He reminds me too much of the Dale like acting and not enough of Hershal. Now that is a case study of someone who has grown into that role as the last episode attested to.

I made the joke to my wife when they panned to him, "I hope the gov ran off into the woods last season and took acting lessons, now he'll return a little more believable and engaging." Then they had the cheese bit at the end to which I said "Nope, guess not"
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Totally agree with VanFlamesFan, they need to get past the Governor and make room for future villains. He was great last season, really spiced things up and made it unpredictable, but there was no reason for them to bring him back so soon.. or at all imo.

I got what I wanted out of him, now I want them to move on.

Last nights episode was great though, best of the season for me.
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The Gov is hit and miss for me. I really could have done without that zombie falling into the fire, and the quick shot to a house on fire and him standing in front. That was some cheesy s**t even for this show. Especially after probably one of the best acted episodes of the series. Felt like one step forward and two back.

I also think David Morrissey could be a good actor, but in this role he just comes off bad. Some moments he is very good, but most often it is soap opera level acting. He reminds me too much of the Dale like acting and not enough of Hershal. Now that is a case study of someone who has grown into that role as the last episode attested to.

I made the joke to my wife when they panned to him, "I hope the gov ran off into the woods last season and took acting lessons, now he'll return a little more believable and engaging." Then they had the cheese bit at the end to which I said "Nope, guess not"
You know those were previews right? There's probably not going to be a "quick shot" in the actual episode.

Apparently Herschel was originally supposed to die in Season 2, but they liked him so much they killed off Dale instead.
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