2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

sounds like a pretty brutal situation for Treliving and he's going to be blamed for squandering value on Nylander ultimately and eventually.

Why? It's one player. Flames have six.

[Mr.Coffee]

No I just mean from a Leafs perspective.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

sounds like a pretty brutal situation for Treliving and he's going to be blamed for squandering value on Nylander ultimately and eventually.

Id rather tie 9.5 to Nylander than 9.5 to Lindholm.

Some guys can just handle the moments and you cant put value on that.

[bluejays]

Just listening to the Jeff Marek radio show and the guest surmises Treliving likes Zadorov and Tanev. Just some tidbit.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

No I just mean from a Leafs perspective.

Part of the job. Almost every GM goes through it at some point. It's Calgary, Ottawa and Toronto's turn.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I agree. I would also add that not knowing what lindholm is doing didn’t help. I’m in favour of signing him but IMO they had to put a deadline on it. I get the market is crap right now but I think lindholm would have been an acceptation to the case. Being a top line center he would have been wanted. The only real hockey trade was PLD to kings. Lots of teams have pivoted already.

So we have no answer from Lindholm who wants to see the direction the team takes with these other pending ufas, who we can’t trade because of a crappy market. But we can’t improve the team because we have no cap space because money is too tight. And we are still left without an answer from him. So it’s a standoff.

Had we moved hanifin for picks to Pittsburgh, we would have at least had cap room and would have allowed us to take advantage of a tight market with the remaining ufas. But Pittsburgh goes and gets graves which means any potential deal would be money in, money out, which still doesn’t help us to improve the team.

Backlund should have some market a c is a premier position but crickets on that front as well

Is it too early to start drinking?

[Harry Lime]

Granted, I didn't watch Toronto all that much last year, but when I did Nylander seemed pretty one dimensional and would be invisible for much of the game with flashes of brilliance. He seems to be paid appropriately right now for what he brings.

[868904]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Id rather tie 9.5 to Nylander than 9.5 to Lindholm.

Some guys can just handle the moments and you cant put value on that.

I know the comparables suggest that makes sense, but from a player utility standpoint, that doesn't make sense at all.

Two way centres capable of scoring a point per game, should have more value than one dimensional point per game scoring wingers.

[Paulie Walnuts]

So are we seeing some type of trade market correction or these low ball offers because of the flat cap and GMS loving the 2023 draft?

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Granted, I didn't watch Toronto all that much last year, but when I did Nylander seemed pretty one dimensional and would be invisible for much of the game with flashes of brilliance. He seems to be paid appropriately right now for what he brings.

Correct. But frankly it's probably because most players have down days where they don't play at 100%, and it was exaggerated that he was lazy. I think he instantly becomes the #1b with Huberdeau. But that's more for a lack of superstars on this team. It doesn't mean he's worth $10M, but 6 x $8 is appealing and right about where he should be.

[Pickle Juice]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Just listening to the Jeff Marek radio show and the guest surmises Treliving likes Zadorov and Tanev. Just some tidbit.

Are they suggesting there might be some back and forth between Calgary and Toronto?

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Id rather tie 9.5 to Nylander than 9.5 to Lindholm.

Some guys can just handle the moments and you cant put value on that.

Success seems to come from strength up the middle. If only Nylander was a C.
It's pretty hard to be competitive with two wingers getting paid $10.5 and $9.5 respectively, especially when it would mean your #1 center is Kadri.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Just listening to the Jeff Marek radio show and the guest surmises Treliving likes Zadorov and Tanev. Just some tidbit.

Great. Tanev and Zadorov for nylander. Take it or leave it.

[Moneyhands23]

Having 2 high priced wingers and no number 1 center just doesn't work. Unless we think Kadri is now the #1

[DazzlinDino]

Seriously should the Flames be trading a first? I think we should be patient; Other opportunities will open up at a later time when we see what this team can do and what our needs are.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Pickle Juice

Are they suggesting there might be some back and forth between Calgary and Toronto?

No, there was just a line from the guest that Treliving has liked Tanev and Zadorov, but no connection in their conversation to Nylander. Just saying they needed better defensive presence now that their offensive defensemen was taken care of.

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Great. Tanev and Zadorov for nylander. Take it or leave it.

Couldn't we all wish?

[868904]

Hanifin to Bruins for a 1st, Lysell and Grzelyck (Only expendable Bruin defenseman without a NMC/NTC) - this is the lowest offer I'd accept from the Bruins

Zadorov, lower of the 2024 1sts, Zary for Nylander (extended) - This is the maximum price I'd pay

Flames would still need to trade one of Backlund, Tanev, or Grzelcyk with limited to no salary in return in order to be cap compliant for the upcoming season.

Extend Lindholm.

Your "core" moving forward is:

Huberdeau, Lindholm, Kadri, Nylander, Weegar, Andersson, Markstrom. Hope young players can develop and supplement and replace the core eventually.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Great. Tanev and Zadorov for nylander. Take it or leave it.

I'd rather have Tanev and Zadorov.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

I like Nylander plenty. I think some are discounting him a bit based on “fourth option” and perhaps memories of his dad. Nylander drives play and was good in the playoffs.
Having said that, I can’t see Toronto as a trading partner. Both parties need to shed cap and not add. It would require a third party to retain salary on both sides to make it work. Would be very difficult.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Id rather tie 9.5 to Nylander than 9.5 to Lindholm.

Some guys can just handle the moments and you cant put value on that.

Scathing criticism…..oofff.