Flames 2013 Draft Discussion

[robaur]

Would you do this trade...

To Tampa:

- Sven Baertschi
- STL Pick 1st round

To CGY:

- 3rd overall pick (Drouin)

Pick Monahan or Lindholm at #6

I love Baertschi....at this point in his development he would be above Drouin so Tampa gets an elite winger either way.

[dying4acup]

Originally Posted by robaur

Would you do this trade...

To Tampa:

- Sven Baertschi
- STL Pick 1st round

To CGY:

- 3rd overall pick (Drouin)

Pick Monahan or Lindholm at #6

I love Baertschi....at this point in his development he would be above Drouin so Tampa gets an elite winger either way.

As a Calgary fan I do it. But it's not going to happen.

[albertGQ]

I may be a homer, but I don't do that trade. I'm a big fan of Sven.

We can get a potentially good centre with the Blues pick

[dying4acup]

I do that trade with the hope that McKinnon falls 1 spot, honestly. I might even pass on Drouin and take Barkov.

But, mainly, it's about getting a franchise player vs a good player.

Sven=good player, not franchise player.

[Kaine]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

I do that trade with the hope that McKinnon falls 1 spot, honestly. I might even pass on Drouin and take Barkov.

But, mainly, it's about getting a franchise player vs a good player.

Sven=good player, not franchise player.

That's the problem with a trade like that, Sven looks like he could very well develop into a second line, perhaps even first line player with considerable upside. Not that it is a sure thing at all but he has shown he has the tools and he will only improve.

Nothing guarantees any picks in the draft will turn into franchise players. Yes the top 3-4 look like they have that potential but again, that's a lot of weight to place on a kid that has never played a mans game. If the Flames were in a position perhaps a few years from now when they could afford to take a risk in the hopes of that one player to push them into a serious contender I would consider it, but as it stands now we need all of the "sure things" we can get to keep this rebuild going. Sven is just to important to the franchise going forward to give away for anything other than a sure thing in return.

I see your point of course, and I would jump on that if it could be certain we would get a franchise player. Just too much risk at this point for the team I feel.

[BACKCHECK!!!]

Originally Posted by The Professor

After reading this whole thread, my impression!

Lindholm. Lindholm. Lindholm. Lindholm. Monahan. Would you trade all the three firsts for McKinnon? Lindholm. Lindholm. Monahan. Monahan. Lindholm. Monahan. Monahan. Monahan. Would you trade all three firsts for McKinnon? Lindholm. Lindholm. Monahan. Lindholm. Lindholm. Monahan. Monahan. Lindholm. Monahan. Monahan. What doyou think of the Russian? Monahan. Russians are dumb. Lindholm. Lindholm. Lindholm. Monahan. Monahan. Monahan. I hope Edmonton takes Nurse. Lindholm. Monahan. I hope Edmonton doesn't take Nurse. Lindholm. Monahan. Would you trade all the three firsts for McKinnon? Lindholm. Monahan. Who do think 'big four' are? Lindholm. Monahan. Who should we take with our other two firsts? ...crickets... Lindholm. Monahan. Lindholm. Monahan. Its impossible to get a #1 C outside of drafting top five. Lindholm. Monahan. No it's not impossible. Lindholm. Monahan. Yes it is. No it's not. Yes it is. Lindholm. Monahan. Would you trade all the three firsts for McKinnon? Lindholm. Monahan. I think Carolina should take the Russian. Lindholm. Monahan. I think Nashville will take the Russian. Lindholm. Monahan. I think Tampa might take the Russian. Lindholm. Monahan. Who is there right mind would take a Russian??!? Hey, just spitballing here, would you guys trade all three firsts for a shot at McKinnon?

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed every minute of it!

I go through this thread, and thank every post that has the name 'Barkov' in it.

[Jack]

Originally Posted by robaur

Would you do this trade...

To Tampa:

- Sven Baertschi
- STL Pick 1st round

To CGY:

- 3rd overall pick (Drouin)

Pick Monahan or Lindholm at #6

I love Baertschi....at this point in his development he would be above Drouin so Tampa gets an elite winger either way.

I'd do it, but I don't think it is plausible. I can't envision any way that we are able to crack the top 3.

We may be able to move up a couple of slots to 4 or 5. Heck, we may even be able to pry Carolina's pick without giving up our 6th overall.

Somebody mentioned packaging Gio with our other two first rounders for the pick and I like that idea. Might have to eat some salary, but that should not be a problem.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by loob job

I know for a fact that Colorado loves Jones, Florida loves Mackinnon and Tampa loves Drouin. Would be shocked if the top three didn't go like that.

You know for a fact? You have inside contacts with all three teams? We Flames fans don't have a clue who the Flames covet but you know for a fact who the Avalanche, Panthers, and Lightning love? Judging from the look on Talon's face when his team dropped to 2nd it's safe to say that he probably really liked Jones as well. We all know the Avs will pick Jones and it's not a stretch that MacKinnon and Druin will follow in that order as that's essentially how they have been ranked by consensus.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I'm really starting to hope we just keep the three 1st's and snag *BPA with each pick. This could be a draft we look back on in 5 years as a real franchise altering draft (for the better).

*I also hope BPA with every pick is a big, skilled, two way center that turns into a stud NHLer over the next 1-3 years.

I agree ... we all know the top 5-10 players in every draft, but most of us don't have a clue past that, and we need to keep in mind if the Flames only had the 20th pick we'd be excited about that.

Make the picks.

Then in a year you'll see three new guys firmly in the club's top 8 prospects with the ripple effect downward showing the Flames with some great young depth.

Baertschi, Gaudrea, Jankowski, Reinhart and Gillies are getting company!

[flamesfan55]

Originally Posted by robaur

Would you do this trade...

To Tampa:

- Sven Baertschi
- STL Pick 1st round

To CGY:

- 3rd overall pick (Drouin)

Pick Monahan or Lindholm at #6

I love Baertschi....at this point in his development he would be above Drouin so Tampa gets an elite winger either way.

I would rather try to work out a deal with nashville to land barkov. Not sure what the frame work of the deal would be but I would prefer to roll with Sven, Barkov, and one of Lindholm or Monohan?

[Husky]

Flames just need to snag a potential 1st line center. We don't need a "franchise" player. If you build a great young team you can have multiple faces to the franchise.

Im hoping the Flames can add some solid RW prospects with their later picks.

[Bourque's Twin]

Originally Posted by Husky

Flames just need to snag a potential 1st line center. We don't need a "franchise" player. If you build a great young team you can have multiple faces to the franchise.

Im hoping the Flames can add some solid RW prospects with their later picks.

This is what we have to accept for this draft. Maybe next draft, if the Flames have a horrible season, they get that franchise player.

As long as the Flames have hard working guys who buy into a system they can win games.
Baertschi, Backlund, Horak, and Reinhart are all guys who lead us in the right direction at forward.
Brodie and Cundari are great on the backend.
It will take a few years to draft and develop a quality team. Hopefully the Flames can capitalize in the off-season on the salary cap situation to speed up the process to become competitive again.

I think Lindholm or Monahan would be great editions to the team and either could hopefully become a #1 centre in the future. Barkov would be ideal.

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by BACKCHECK!!!

I go through this thread, and thank every post that has the name 'Barkov' in it.

Then You're Gonna Love Me

Spoiler!

the hockey news draft preview issue apparently has Barkov @ 6th
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...7&postcount=40

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by robaur

Would you do this trade...

To Tampa:

- Sven Baertschi
- STL Pick 1st round

To CGY:

- 3rd overall pick (Drouin)

Pick Monahan or Lindholm at #6

I love Baertschi....at this point in his development he would be above Drouin so Tampa gets an elite winger either way.

No.

If the Flames had a deep prospect pool already, then I would be willing to take a really solid prospect like Baertschi and try to leverage up (the quality vs quantity trade).

But as it stands right now, the Flames need help at every position. Trading a Baertschi to get a different, younger prospect with a little higher likelihood of becoming a franchise player, doesn't make sense.

If the Flames take their 3 picks and go home, and it turns out that they did well, they may well be in a position next year to do something like this. (With Stempniak, Cammalleri, Tanguay and Stajan as trade bait next deadline, the Flames should have extra picks again)

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

No.

If the Flames had a deep prospect pool already, then I would be willing to take a really solid prospect like Baertschi and try to leverage up (the quality vs quantity trade).

But as it stands right now, the Flames need help at every position. Trading a Baertschi to get a different, younger prospect with a little higher likelihood of becoming a franchise player, doesn't make sense.

If the Flames take their 3 picks and go home, and it turns out that they did well, they may well be in a position next year to do something like this. (With Stempniak, Cammalleri, Tanguay and Stajan as trade bait next deadline, the Flames should have extra picks again)

what if mackinnon is available?
florida drafts drouin

mackinnon plus lindholm equals flames future

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by handgroen

what if mackinnon is available?
florida drafts drouin

mackinnon plus lindholm equals flames future

I would be more interested if it were MacKinnon. But again, it is a tough one when we have so few prospects. If we had a few more in the bank, I would be all over it.

Personally, I would rather we take our 3 picks. I would love to trade up using older players, if that were possible, but it probably isn't.

[Enoch Root]

If the StL pick + Gaudreau got it done, I would definitely do it (for either of them). But I don't think it would.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If the StL pick + Gaudreau got it done, I would definitely do it (for either of them). But I don't think it would.

Highly doubt it. Might move us into the top ten somewhere (8-10) if that. Gaudreau is not worth the difference between 3rd and 20th. He is worth more to us than any other team, might as well keep him.

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

I would be more interested if it were MacKinnon. But again, it is a tough one when we have so few prospects. If we had a few more in the bank, I would be all over it.

Personally, I would rather we take our 3 picks. I would love to trade up using older players, if that were possible, but it probably isn't.

if you can get your hands on mackinnon everyone in our system is expendable absolutely everyone
and if you can keep your 6th overall and the pitt pick
home friggin run!

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by handgroen

if you can get your hands on mackinnon everyone in our system is expendable absolutely everyone

I don't agree. Although, I expect to be in the running for top three picks in the next two years at least. I would like a good player in every position. Baertschi covers left wing and that's all we got.