12-20-2022, 11:17 AM
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#3381
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
One minute of analysis is all it takes to see how to fix that team.
With McDavid and Draisaitl, they are elite on the PP, and they have a good chance of winning the special teams battle, most nights. So all they have to do is make 5 on 5 a non-event. Just play low event, low scoring hockey, 5 on 5, and they are in good shape. Those 2 aren't putting up many points 5 on 5 anyway, and they are getting scored on too much because they coast, in order to save their energy for offensive chances. So reduce their ice-time, convince them to back-check (LOL), utilize (and engage) the bench more, and they would be better 5 on 5. Then let them do their thing on the PP.
This is all obvious to a 10 year old. And yet here we are, in McDavid's 8th season, and they haven't made one inch of progress on how to manage the team.
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Yep... totally agree... and the goals against, how do you expect McDavid or Draisaitl to defend (after a PP for example) when the puck is quickly turned in the other directions and they've been on the ice for the full 2 minutes (or close to it)... I don't care how fast McDavid is, when he's gassed chasing down fresh legs on the opposing team, he's going lose that battle more times than not.
Looking at last year... Johnny had more points per 60 minutes than both McDavid and Draisaitl.... I know the thinking up north is that the more you play them, the more goals, but I don't think that's necessarily the case, I think if you play them steadily and control their shift times, I think a fresher duo scores more goals and certainly to your point, lets fewer in on their net. Johnny kicked their collective a**** last year looking at net points while on the ice... imagine what our coaching staff could do for them when you see what they did for Johnny last year.... but McDavid and Draisaitl would have to but in of course, and I think that may be the issue.
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12-20-2022, 11:34 AM
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#3382
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Elbows Up!!
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Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon
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Visually better. Just a bit lazier. And a bit more pissy.
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12-20-2022, 11:56 AM
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#3383
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Franchise Player
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Tim Micallef was on 960 this morning, complaining that the NHL should have instituted a luxury cap exemption for teams like the Oilers (and Leafs) because, in his words, no team in the history of sports have been hurt as much by the cap due to the impacts of covid.
He said that if this was happening to American teams like the Bruins or Rangers, that the NHL would have stepped in to provide cap relief to help those teams compete.
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12-20-2022, 11:59 AM
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#3384
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Tim Micallef was on 960 this morning, complaining that the NHL should have instituted a luxury cap exemption for teams like the Oilers (and Leafs) because, in his words, no team in the history of sports have been hurt as much by the cap due to the impacts of covid.
He said that if this was happening to American teams like the Bruins or Rangers, that the NHL would have stepped in to provide cap relief to help those teams compete.
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I heard that and laughed. Tell me you are a big Oilers/Leafs fan without telling me you are an Oilers/Leaf fan. Yes let's penalize teams that have managed their salary cap well so a couple of Canadian teams that have mismanaged the cap can have an advantage. Let's not forget that the Oilers offered that Darnell Nurse contract coming right out of the COVID bubble season.
Last edited by Erick Estrada; 12-20-2022 at 12:02 PM.
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12-20-2022, 12:31 PM
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#3385
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First Line Centre
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Oof, dude needs his Sid back. What a bad take.
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12-20-2022, 12:59 PM
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#3387
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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lol at "top 12-ish"
i wonder how they come to these conclusions just from one adjustment on paper
Galifianakis math gif
also will never happen .. if chychrun could be had for the terrible package the Oilers would scrounge together against the cap then he would've been dealt a long time ago
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12-20-2022, 01:18 PM
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#3388
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Tim Micallef was on 960 this morning, complaining that the NHL should have instituted a luxury cap exemption for teams like the Oilers (and Leafs) because, in his words, no team in the history of sports have been hurt as much by the cap due to the impacts of covid.
He said that if this was happening to American teams like the Bruins or Rangers, that the NHL would have stepped in to provide cap relief to help those teams compete.
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how has Covid hurt the Oilers and/or Leafs? And how has it hurt them more than anyone else?
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12-20-2022, 01:22 PM
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#3389
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
how has Covid hurt the Oilers and/or Leafs? And how has it hurt them more than anyone else?
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I assume it's the uber elite talent taking up large amounts of the cap in a period of time where the cap stopped going up.
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12-20-2022, 01:28 PM
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#3390
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
I assume it's the uber elite talent taking up large amounts of the cap in a period of time where the cap stopped going up.
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and how is that any different than any other team, structured in any other way (i.e. more balanced, for instance), being equally as hampered by the dampened cap?
(directed at the twit-er, not expecting you to defend their logic)
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12-20-2022, 01:31 PM
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#3391
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon
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They only know who Ekholm is now because he scored against them last night.
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12-20-2022, 01:35 PM
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#3392
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Franchise Player
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I think the league has helped them. They sure were flexible and looked the other way with both Keith and Smith.
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12-20-2022, 01:35 PM
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#3393
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Franchise Player
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The way the Oiler media - and sometimes the organization - discusses other players by name, like the rest of the league is some kind of farm team for them, is not only astounding and embarrassing and ridiculous, but also seems to be borderline tampering. Or at least wildly inappropriate.
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12-20-2022, 01:38 PM
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#3394
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
how has Covid hurt the Oilers and/or Leafs? And how has it hurt them more than anyone else?
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That is not for us to ask.
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12-20-2022, 01:40 PM
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#3395
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Probably stuck driving someone somewhere
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Tim Micallef was on 960 this morning, complaining that the NHL should have instituted a luxury cap exemption for teams like the Oilers (and Leafs) because, in his words, no team in the history of sports have been hurt as much by the cap due to the impacts of covid.
He said that if this was happening to American teams like the Bruins or Rangers, that the NHL would have stepped in to provide cap relief to help those teams compete.
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The whole bit was absolutely cringe-worthy of a listen. I'm not sure what he was going for but, oof, it really sounded like "my teams can't win so they need special help".
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12-20-2022, 01:53 PM
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#3396
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
They only know who Ekholm is now because he scored against them last night.
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quoted for absolute truth
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12-20-2022, 01:57 PM
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#3397
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
I think the league has helped them. They sure were flexible and looked the other way with both Keith and Smith.
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never seen LTIR used like an immunity idol like the Oilers managed to in the offseason
how does Smith finish the playoffs in the starters net and then the team declare that he's broken and no one raises a finger
when did he suffer this career ending injury .. I didn't see it
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12-20-2022, 02:10 PM
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#3398
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHot25
The whole bit was absolutely cringe-worthy of a listen. I'm not sure what he was going for but, oof, it really sounded like "my teams can't win so they need special help".
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I was actually shocked it was coming from him as I'm not even sure Spector or Oiler lover Friedman would go down that road.
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12-20-2022, 02:18 PM
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#3399
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
never seen LTIR used like an immunity idol like the Oilers managed to in the offseason
how does Smith finish the playoffs in the starters net and then the team declare that he's broken and no one raises a finger
when did he suffer this career ending injury .. I didn't see it
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There's that, and then there's Keith "retiring" and then 2 months later taking a "player development" role with the Oilers ie. a multi-year salaried position where he has to maybe do a zoom call once every 6 months from his family home in BC.
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12-20-2022, 02:23 PM
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#3400
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Norm!
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I'd be fine with a Oilers luxury tax of $100,000 for every dollar over
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