2014/2015 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Lanny_McDonald]

Sharp ($5.9M) and Seabrook ($5.8M) for Hudler ($4M), Russell ($2.6M) and a 2nd pick or B/C level prospect. We save the Hawks $5.1M in cap space and they take a minimal hit in performance.

[Red Menace]

Originally Posted by New Era

Sharp ($5.9M) and Seabrook ($5.8M) for Hudler ($4M), Russell ($2.6M) and a 2nd pick or B/C level prospect. We save the Hawks $5.1M in cap space and they take a minimal hit in performance.

Not interested in a 34 year old Sharp. Hudler is better at this point (and 3 yrs younger).
Seabrook or Hjalmarsson are of interest for sure.

[Poe969]

How are people writing off Sharp? Because he's 34?? He's under contract for this coming season and the following. Hudler put up a career year this past year but will he ever do that again? This coming season is Hudler's last on his current contract and he's going to want cash and term so the Flames won't be able to keep him in their long term plan, at least they'd have Sharp a little longer.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by New Era

Sharp ($5.9M) and Seabrook ($5.8M) for Hudler ($4M), Russell ($2.6M) and a 2nd pick or B/C level prospect. We save the Hawks $5.1M in cap space and they take a minimal hit in performance.

Chicago is not trading Seabrook for something like two pending UFA players who will be seeking big salary increase.

I doubt they move him.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Zibenjad has been on the block before. The last two years IIRC actually.

I believe Chiasson, Stone, Hoffman and Pageau are the guys Murray would prefer to keep.

They have Lazar, Turris, Legwand and Pageau as their 4 C's and their RW is pretty solid too. I really think Zibenjad can be had.

EDIT: Especially considering they'd be adding Hudler. Anchoring a solid veteran presence and a guy that can get Bobby Ryan going. They cannot afford to have Ryan not produce at 7.25 year.

Legwand is on the trade block. Saw ice time reduced and was a scratch when Cameron took over. Chiasson was a healthy scratch during playoffs as well.

Ottawa also looking to move Greening and a defenceman. Given that they're a budget team, we might be able to reduce acquisition cost of Lehner by taking on a contract they are trying to move out.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by Poe969

How are people writing off Sharp? Because he's 34?? He's under contract for this coming season and the following. Hudler put up a career year this past year but will he ever do that again? This coming season is Hudler's last on his current contract and he's going to want cash and term so the Flames won't be able to keep him in their long term plan, at least they'd have Sharp a little longer.

Because he'll be a 36 year old UFA when this team's window is opening, who just took up two years of a valuable roster spot when we already have too many forwards.

Tbh I can't see a single reason that Sharp works. Way rather keep Hudler if we're going that route.

[Poe969]

So Sharp would take up a roster spot but Hudler wouldn't???

The only way I think the Flames should pick up Sharp is if they trade Hudler because of his value right now. Hudler is coming off of a career year and has one more year on a very affordable contract. If the Flames keep him, they'll have to lose him next year because he'll want a better contract. If they sell high on Hudler and make out very well, then they can potentially buy low on Sharp as his replacement and at least have him under contract for one more year until a prospect is ready to take his spot then they can cut Sharp loose too.

Sell high on Hudler and buy low on Sharp and then if Sharp isn't working out, trade him at the following deadline.

[Vinny01]

If Chicagomdoes trade Seabrook it will be for cheap young futures in my opinion. If Edmonton really wanted him the deal likely is Nurse+. I can still see Chicago letting him walk in free agency because they have a chance to win it all with him again next year

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

Gio-Brodie works, and it's a great fallback. But I think if you can try and build around a lefty-righty on each pair, it helps your offensive zone possession. I also aim for a defense core that can play 20-20-20 per pair. Also, make no mistake, Seabrook is a top pair defenseman.

And in a few years, as Gio drops off a bit:

Brodie-Seabrook
Gio-Morrison
Russell-Wotherspoon

I think you are taking that to the extreme a bit. Brodie plays really well as a RD, so I really don't see that as an issue.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

Chicago is not trading Seabrook for something like two pending UFA players who will be seeking big salary increase.

I doubt they move him.

You are aware that Seabrook is himself a year away from free agency? You are also aware that the Hawks are in cap prison doing hard time. They have $64M committed to 13 players. They have $5M to spend on 10 players, including four defenseman. They also have Brandon Saad to sign as a RFA. They have to trim payroll, and trim it hard. They are losing Seabrook whether they like it or not. They just have to figure out how to move one of their other ugly contracts with him and get back the bodies they can use next year, or they are going to be taking a substantial step backwards.

[dying4acup]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

If Chicagomdoes trade Seabrook it will be for cheap young futures in my opinion. If Edmonton really wanted him the deal likely is Nurse+. I can still see Chicago letting him walk in free agency because they have a chance to win it all with him again next year

Seabrook has a say where he goes.

Chicago can keep him if they want to by trading other players. But if they are losing him for nothing in a year, then they may look to move him now.

If that's the case, and I believe it's NHL ready prospects they are looking for, we can offer Granlund, Shore, Jooris and/or picks.

The only thing I would not trade if I were the Flames is defense and goalie prospects, and young core players.

[Phanuthier]

I highly doubt Seabrook would ever make it to UFA. Players of his ilk never really reach UFA. Especially for Chicago, who I'd say Seabrook is closer to a core piece along with Toewes/Kane/Keith and a guy they should pay their fair market value for. I think Crawford will get moved first, and obviously Sharp.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dying4acup

Sharp has a say where he goes.

Chicago can keep him if they want to by trading other players. But if they are losing him for nothing in a year, then they may look to move him now.

If that's the case, and I believe it's NHL ready prospects they are looking for, we can offer Granlund, Shore, Jooris and/or picks.

The only thing I would not trade if I were the Flames is defense and goalie prospects, and young core players.

Are you taking about Sharp or Seabrook?

I don't see the Hawks accepting a combination of Granlund, Shore, Jooris for Seabrook.

[OILFAN #81]

Keith, Toews, Kane, Hossa, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, and Sharp are the 7 Blackhawks who have won all 3 cups. In my opinion, they aren't moving Keith, Toews, Kane, Hossa, Seabrook or Hjalmarsson.

Sharp will be the guy who gets shopped around due to his 5.9 M salary and the restraints of the salary cap. With Oduya becoming a UFA and looking to cash in, the Hawks will keep Seabrook around. They can't afford to lose Seabrook, Oduya and Roszival (a UFA who is their #5 defenseman before getting injured). If they keep Toews, Kane, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, that is a good group who has been around for all 3 cups. Throw in a guy like Saad who has been there for the last 2 and is still only 23 years old, Shaw who has won 2 and is a good role player, Kruger, Teravainen, etc and they still have solid pieces to challenge for the foreseeable future.

Crawford will be around too. Chicago really likes him and he has proven he can win the cup.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

^^ I think that is correct. Lose Sharp, Oduya, Richards, Vermette, probably Bickell. They'll need some youngsters to step up on the backend, but they are still a very solid team.
Very similar to 2010. They may take a small step back, but if they get any kind of return for Sharp or other tradeable assets, they should be fine.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Keith, Toews, Kane, Hossa, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, and Sharp are the 7 Blackhawks who have won all 3 cups. In my opinion, they aren't moving Keith, Toews, Kane, Hossa, Seabrook or Hjalmarsson.

Sharp will be the guy who gets shopped around due to his 5.9 M salary and the restraints of the salary cap. With Oduya becoming a UFA and looking to cash in, the Hawks will keep Seabrook around. They can't afford to lose Seabrook, Oduya and Roszival (a UFA who is their #5 defenseman before getting injured). If they keep Toews, Kane, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, that is a good group who has been around for all 3 cups. Throw in a guy like Saad who has been there for the last 2 and is still only 23 years old, Shaw who has won 2 and is a good role player, Kruger, Teravainen, etc and they still have solid pieces to challenge for the foreseeable future.

Crawford will be around too. Chicago really likes him and he has proven he can win the cup.

That's sounds great, but it isn't likely:
Keith $5.5M
Seabrook $5.8M
Hjalmarsson $4.1M
Toews $10.5M
Kane $10.5M
Hossa $5.25
Saad $4M
Shaw $2M
Kruger $3M
TT $1M
Crawford $6M

That's $57.7M for 11 players. That leaves 13M for at least 3 defensemen, 5 forwards and a back up. That's not enough really to even have a 20 man roster

[sureLoss]

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[GreenLantern]

I feel like people have been saying for the past 5-6 years that Chicago is in cap hell but yet they always seem to come out of it as contenders.. what has changed this time around?

Between Sharp and Bickell that clears up nearly 10 million. Then they have what, another 10 million for 20 total?

20 to sign 6 forwards and 3 D.

That is an average of over 2 mill per player.. pretty generous if you think about it. Not saying that they will have as stacked as a roster they did this year, but with such a solid core you don't need to add much to compete.


Saad-Toews-Kane
Hossa-Shaw-Teravainen
Versteeg-Kruger-Nordstrom

Keith-Seabrook
Hjalmarsson-Rundblad

Crawford
Raanta

So what they basically need a #4 D man, 1 more depth D man from the bargain bin who wants a chance at a cup and then 3 4th liners. I can't see that being overly expensive.. especially if they have a few prospects graduate to the big leagues. Hartman and Dahlstrom seem like good candidates.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

That's sounds great, but it isn't likely:
Keith $5.5M
Seabrook $5.8M
Hjalmarsson $4.1M
Toews $10.5M
Kane $10.5M
Hossa $5.25
Saad $4M
Shaw $2M
Kruger $3M
TT $1M
Crawford $6M

That's $57.7M for 11 players. That leaves 13M for at least 3 defensemen, 5 forwards and a back up. That's not enough really to even have a 20 man roster

I expect Crawford would be moved out before Seabrook. A lot easier to find an average goalie than it is to find a top-pairing defenceman.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

^^ I think that is correct. Lose Sharp, Oduya, Richards, Vermette, probably Bickell. They'll need some youngsters to step up on the backend, but they are still a very solid team.
Very similar to 2010. They may take a small step back, but if they get any kind of return for Sharp or other tradeable assets, they should be fine.

Just losing those gives them 14M in cap space to sign Kruger, Saad and a lot more

Bickell Toews Kane
Versteeg Shaw Hossa
X Terevainen X
X X X

Keith Seabrook
Hjalmarsson X
X X

Crawford
Raanta
Darling


That's a lot of X's for 14M