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Old 04-23-2010, 10:09 AM   #321
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He was the consensus #1 pick and top rated QB in the draft with rare size and physical ability.
As a Lions fans I can tell you he was not the consensus number 1 pick because there were a lot of people saying he could go to the Lions which scared the hell out of me.

I know a lot of experts said that Johnson was a much better pick and that Thomas was the best player.

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There were some questions about his drive but I don't think anyone could have predicted the near legendary lack of dedication and lazyness that he has showed. I don't blame the Raiders for the pick because they had a need at QB and Russell was the top rated QB in that draft class. He looks to be a bust but like I said I don't think any of the experts could have predicted such a lack of dedication.
They may not have been able to predict how lazy he was but it was clear that he had no idea how to read an NFL, or college, level defense and that he would struggle when he actually had to make reads and run a proper offense instead of running around and waiting for his recievers to beat their less talented opponents.

There are plenty of experts and laymen from that draft that aren't surprised at all that Russell did not have the football IQ to be an NFL QB.
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My biggest fear was that the Chiefs would take Bulaga at #5. So I was happy when they had a chance to get Okung, or Berry. But, I'll say this, at 23 and given the Packers need at Tackle, I think thats a great pick for them. Bulaga as a 10-15 pick would have been good for anyone, he's ready to go from day 1 and will be a solid player for 10 years. I just didn't think he had top 5 talent, and that the reason the Chiefs would pick him was because he would be a guy who could handle a big pay cheque and still show up and play hard. For the Packers to get him at 23 looks like one of the best value picks of the first round.
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:19 AM   #323
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Gil Brandt described JaMarcus' pro day as the most impressive physical exhibition he'd ever seen from a QB. But he said no way I'd ever draft that guy in the first round, you can't give him that type of money because he'll bust out once he gets it.
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My biggest fear was that the Chiefs would take Bulaga at #5. So I was happy when they had a chance to get Okung, or Berry. But, I'll say this, at 23 and given the Packers need at Tackle, I think thats a great pick for them. Bulaga as a 10-15 pick would have been good for anyone, he's ready to go from day 1 and will be a solid player for 10 years. I just didn't think he had top 5 talent, and that the reason the Chiefs would pick him was because he would be a guy who could handle a big pay cheque and still show up and play hard. For the Packers to get him at 23 looks like one of the best value picks of the first round.

Have to agree and thats not the GB fan coming out in me either. Almost all the mocks that i put any creed into had him going top 15 latest. At 23 he is a steal, and again because of his pedigree is very unlikely to become anything less than a solid starter for many years sans injuries.
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I'm getting a sense that the Vikings WILL NOT take a QB. Which is somewhat puzzling. At this point, if no one trades up and Claussen falls to us, why would we not take him? He'll I'd fall back a few picks and take McCoy. But, that's just me as a fan.
After last year, and me losing my mind over our first round pick (I almost exploded with anger) I think I'll trust Spielman and company to make the best picksfor this team.

Apparently both Buffalo and Cleveland have been in contact with St. Louis about thst first pick in the second round.
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Old 04-23-2010, 10:55 AM   #326
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Gil Brandt described JaMarcus' pro day as the most impressive physical exhibition he'd ever seen from a QB. But he said no way I'd ever draft that guy in the first round, you can't give him that type of money because he'll bust out once he gets it.
Yep. Scouts were drooling over his arm strenght and the 60 yard bombs from his knees sealed the deal for old Al. When you consider Davis loves measureables over attitude it was a given that Russell was going to be a Raider especially with Al's love for the deep ball. Just like Darrius Heyward Bust who was the fastest player in the draft which is what Davis covets. It didn't matter that DHB can't catch the football wich is the pre-requisit for any top reciever. Honestly, he can't catch the ball. Louis Murphy picked 4th overall will be twice the NFL reciever that DHB will.
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Yesterday one of the Niner beat writers wrote on his blog that Bulaga was falling down draft boards.

He also called him going to the Pack!
"Hedge: If Bulaga falls, the Packers swoop in (and up) to draft him ...."
While the Pack didn't need to trade up to get him, I think that is still a heck of a call.

In out draft here I was going to take any of the big 4 OT that fell to 13. None did. But for some reason the Niners weren't interested in Bulaga at all. Niners traded into 11 to get Anthony Davis because they thought Dallas were going to move up to get the same player.
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Would love my 49ers to take a chance on Claussen or McCoy, but Alex Smith seems to still have some fans within the organization. Picking up 2 monsters to protect him in the first round should help them.
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Igniter i also note that you werent thrilled with the Bulaga pick, but it really was a no-brainer in the end...and this coming from a guy that liked Wilson as much as anyone. He fills a glaring need on a team that was brutal at pass protect for most of last year, and at a position that has a 33 year old and a 34 year old as its depth. The comments from the ESPN guys were hilarious. Young said " i dont know if i have ever seen a player that looks more like a Green Bay packer than this guy" and then someone else chimed in with "he looks like he is ready to go curling". I laughed. Gotta remember that Kirk Ferentz is a guy that produces NFL ready O-liners year after year. He was not only a safe pick, but a guy that will play no doubt..

I think initially I was upset because the flashy pick in Wilson was there to be made, rather then the vanilla OT pick. I also had concerns with why he was falling.

I'm now okay with it, when i realized that after the 49'ers picking at 11/17 there was no one between them and the Pack that really craved an OT more than some other position. We got the 4th best OT in the draft, valued at 10-15, at 23. Also, Bulaga's ability to play basically any line position gives the Pack a lot of flexibility. That was a major issue last year when Clifton went out with his ankle injury, the amount of moving around to replace one guy was crazy.

While Wilson is solid, the depth for better than average CB's in the draft is pretty good (or so I hear), I look for TT to hedge his bets on Lee either in the 2nd or the 3rd. He really doesn't need a stud CB if Harris returns to form, just some depth with the potential to be solid.

An OLB would be the other pick I think he makes. With Kindle available, I wonder if TT trades up to get him.
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An OLB would be the other pick I think he makes. With Kindle available, I wonder if TT trades up to get him.
My thoughts exactly, but he would have to give up about 3 picks to move that far considering what he has available to him right now.

I have no idea what they do, but kindle seems to be an absolute perfect fit for a need they have.

I have a feeling his medical issues are what is seeing him drop right now...as they are legitimate as far as long term health goes.

Also, Daryl Washington is still out there...but I doubt he falls to them wither.

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Would love my 49ers to take a chance on Claussen or McCoy, but Alex Smith seems to still have some fans within the organization. Picking up 2 monsters to protect him in the first round should help them.
Word today is that while some head office people like Claussen, Singletary didn't and wanted to stick with Smith and build up other areas of need.
And the team is still high on Nate Davis, although that wouldn't stop them from picking another QB if McCoy or Claussen fell to them. It just means they won't be moving up to get one of them.

Expect D to be the rule today for the Niners. They are looking for depth at any position, so it will probably best available on that side of the ball when the 49th comes around.
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Apparently Kindly has slipped because of durability issues. Some teams think microfracture surgery may be required.

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Word today is that while some head office people like Claussen, Singletary didn't and wanted to stick with Smith and build up other areas of need.
And the team is still high on Nate Davis, although that wouldn't stop them from picking another QB if McCoy or Claussen fell to them. It just means they won't be moving up to get one of them.

Expect D to be the rule today for the Niners. They are looking for depth at any position, so it will probably best available on that side of the ball when the 49th comes around.
Myron Rolle interest you at all?
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Andy Reid explains the Graham pick.

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Makes me feel a lot better now.
I am ok with this pick, a little surprised but ok with it. Glad they were able to hold onto their 2nd rounders as well in the trade. Reid seems to like his Michigan down linemen.

Eagles have the 5th pick any chance they take (if they can) Mays? Still in need of a safety in my books. I wouldn't mind Chris Cook here either at the corner spot...

Linebacker in Washington?

I think they stay focused on defense though.
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Myron Rolle interest you at all?
Me, for sure. But that name wasn't mentioned in relation to the Niners anywhere that I saw. But another safety would be fine by me. I think CB is a bit bigger need, but it will all come down to who is available. I don't think they will move up to get anyone, they will take the best player on D at 49.
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I'm getting a sense that the Vikings WILL NOT take a QB. Which is somewhat puzzling. At this point, if no one trades up and Claussen falls to us, why would we not take him? He'll I'd fall back a few picks and take McCoy. But, that's just me as a fan.
After last year, and me losing my mind over our first round pick (I almost exploded with anger) I think I'll trust Spielman and company to make the best picksfor this team.

Apparently both Buffalo and Cleveland have been in contact with St. Louis about thst first pick in the second round.
Maybe Brett has told them he is leaning towards coming back, which means their window of opportunity with that team is this year, maybe next year. If so they probly want to take the BPA that can help them win the superbowl, rather than a prospect like Clausen who wouldn't add anything to the team this year if Favre comes back.
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I am ok with this pick, a little surprised but ok with it. Glad they were able to hold onto their 2nd rounders as well in the trade. Reid seems to like his Michigan down linemen.

Eagles have the 5th pick any chance they take (if they can) Mays? Still in need of a safety in my books. I wouldn't mind Chris Cook here either at the corner spot...

Linebacker in Washington?

I think they stay focused on defense though.

I could see the Eagles being interested in Nate Allen. Not at 37 mind you... possibly move up from 55 though (not sure he'd last till then).

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Still wish they would've waited for Jake Locker.
I think Locker was a pipe dream for you guys anyways. I honestly don't see the Broncos having a top-10 pick in next year's draft, and the amount of picks you'd have to give up to get Locker would be ridiculous.
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Apparently Kindly has slipped because of durability issues. Some teams think microfracture surgery may be required.

http://collegesportsblog.dallasnews....-in-first.html
I actually read a rumor on a local site this morning that he might have already had that surgery.
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I could see the Eagles being interested in Nate Allen. Not at 37 mind you... possibly move up from 55 though (not sure he'd last till then).
I think they'll have a hard time passing on Taylor Mays at 37.
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