2010 NFL Draft Thread....

[browna]

Happy with SEA's picks, filling immediate needs...if somehow, someway they could move up from 60 and get Colt McCoy, it would be a perfect first 3 picks IMO.

[d_phaneuf]

I don't think they go QB at all, after what they have up for Whitehurst they have to think he is the future.

I think they go RB in the next round, I thought for sure they would end up with Spiller. Maybe they make a move for Marshawn Lynch now that he seems expendable in Buffalo

[moon]

Originally Posted by diane_phaneuf

I am not saying they have been the best run franchise in the NFL the last 6 years, but they haven't been the worst. Bill Bellicheck even said last year that he thought Al Davis was one of the best football minds in the league.

They are just trendy to bash for ESPN because Davis calls half of their reporters liars and rumor mongers

Haven't they lost more games than anyone since they were in the Superbowl?

As I fan of the Lions I can't say much about how to run a team but I would take Matt Millen and that trainwreck over Al Davis any day of the week.

There may have been some that liked aspects of Russel's game/physical abilities but there were a ton of question marks about him and more people saying he would be a bust than any other first overall pick that I can remember.

People bash them not because it is trendy but because they are a terribly run organization that kills any positive moves it makes by following it with 5 absolutely ######ed moves.

[moon]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

God I hope I don't have to hear more of this. Clausen is garbage. There's a reason he was passed over. At least Tebow has the chance to be a good player. His drive is unmatched, that cannot be denied. Clausen is the same dildo that showed up with bling and a limo at the hall of fame to say he was going to ND.

I would gladly take a talented but cocky QB over a "great" leader who struggled reading college pass defenses and has a terrible delivery.

I am sure there are plenty of guys with Tebow's drive they just didn't have CBS pimping them for 3 years.

[Ziggy Lidstrom]

1. I think the draft "experts" should be held accountable for their predictions just like the video of Russel's pick. Kiper was calling this a homerun. I remember Mayock last year calling Robert Ayers one of the best defenders in the draft with the potential to look back and see him as one of the best defenders in a long time.

2. Even though the NFL cut down on time between picks in the first round the first round took a whopping 3 hours. Wow it was like an oversaturation of a fix for a junkie. I love it and will intently watch tomorrow.

3. The trades were fast and furious after the top ten. It made it real exciting. I think every team has got real good talents for their first round investments.

4. There are so many good football programs producing so many good players that it explains this draft's depth.

5. Teebow deserves this distinction and I like what Ronald McDaniels is doing despite my distaste for the broncos. They have 3 solid qb's now that will yield interesting results I'm sure. With clady protecting them, First round pro choice Teebow and BeBe (pronounced baybay) will have good shots at developing into a great pros despite their criticisms.

6. I like how the NFL is a self-perpetuating vortex of marketing and hype. The drew brees Madden plugs were cool along with his call of the last pick of the round. The primetime slot and the military representations were enviable for a fan of the NHL draft.

7. Go Pack, great value pick. T - E - D Ted! Ted! Ted!

[transplant99]

I see some fellow Packer fans on here...nice.

Igniter i also note that you werent thrilled with the Bulaga pick, but it really was a no-brainer in the end...and this coming from a guy that liked Wilson as much as anyone. He fills a glaring need on a team that was brutal at pass protect for most of last year, and at a position that has a 33 year old and a 34 year old as its depth. The comments from the ESPN guys were hilarious. Young said " i dont know if i have ever seen a player that looks more like a Green Bay packer than this guy" and then someone else chimed in with "he looks like he is ready to go curling". I laughed. Gotta remember that Kirk Ferentz is a guy that produces NFL ready O-liners year after year. He was not only a safe pick, but a guy that will play no doubt.

Anyhoo, here is the skinny on the big guy from Scouts inc.

Pros: Works from the snap until the whistle and gives same effort when Iowa runs to the opposite side as he does when Iowa runs behind him. Short-term memory and doesn't appear to dwell on mistakes. Gets set quickly, locks out arms and can ride explosive edge rushers past the pocket. Shows excellent body control and footwork when forced to redirect. Active and strong hands.

Cons: Can be a step late sliding off combo block and covering up linebacker. Doesn't always show great spatial awareness as a zone blocker or take sound angles to downfield blocks. Vulnerable to some spin moves and needs to do a better job of handling power-to-speed moves. Must continue to improve lower-body strength in order to anchor better versus bull rush.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by moon

I would gladly take a talented but cocky QB over a "great" leader who struggled reading college pass defenses and has a terrible delivery.

I am sure there are plenty of guys with Tebow's drive they just didn't have CBS pimping them for 3 years.

McDaniels' said the other day that Tebow has already corrected his delivery.

Do I believe it? Not really, but it's pretty obvious Mac thinks it can be done.

Denver took Tebow because of what they believe he could become not because they needed a QB.

Still wish they would've waited for Jake Locker.

[wpgflamesfan]

Originally Posted by Trojan97

The Lions trading up to get Best was dumb. The Vikings, Colts and Saints were no threat to take a running back and I have a hard time believing the Rams would have taken him to start the second given all their holes on D. I thought they were moving up to take Charles Brown before someone like the Colts or Saints potentially could. Just a weird move to me.

I agree completely here. Sure the guy has that "home-run threat" potential, but I'm not completely sold on him. After scorching perennial powerhouses Maryland, Eastern Michigan and Minnesota he seemed to really fall off only registering 100 yards twice in the next 6 games. One was against a pitiful Washington State team and the other came against UCLA (if you take out the 93 yard td, he had 17 carries for 9 yards).

Plus there's that pretty serious concussion he had against Oregon State which could have an impact going forward in his career.

[transplant99]

Just looking thru the 1st rd and noticed some schools that almost always send kids to the NFL on day 1 who were shut out completely...

USC
Ohio St.
Georgia
LSU
Miami
Auburn
UCLA
Oregon
Boston College
Illinois
Louisville
Maryland
Mississippi
North Carolina
Notre Dame
Oregon St.
Purdue
Va. Tech
Wisconsin


Just shows how parity is taking control in the NCAA with the limits on scholarships and the awareness that it doesnt matter where you play any more to get attention from the NFL scouts.

[Jesse834]

Originally Posted by Pagal4321

Hmmm what do the Vikings do tomorrow with that 34th pick?

I'd guess Taylor Mays.

Chris Cook?

[transplant99]

I wouldnt be surprised to see the vikes go with Clausen.

[SportsJunky]

I have to believe Clausen is the pick at 34. Tebow was a surprise for sure but Clausen is still the second best QB in the draft imo. I'm not sure that the Vikes share my opinion though.

Mays is another guy that slipped out of the first round and could be a solid pick for Minnesota.

[transplant99]

Clausen is still the second best QB in the draft imo.

IMHO I think he ends up being the best QB out of this draft...which I understand goes against a huge tide of opinions from the experts.

my reasoning is simple...Bradford comes from a spread offense, Clausen from a pro-style offense. Huge advantage for Clausen there.

Bradford's footwork is not very good and takes way to many hits, something he could handle in college but will kill him at the NFL level..and all that after hurting his throwing shoulder twice in the last calendar year. Nevermind he is heading to a team withone of the poorest O-lines in the game which will have him running for his life if he can manage to. Clausen's footwork and ability to get rid of the ball is way ahead at this point and he is tough as nails.

No question Bradford faced superior opposition in college and that in itself may be all he needs to elevate to the NFL game, that remains to be seen. I would never have drafted Bradford where he was taken, though I can certainly understand the Rams doing so. Clausen to Minnesota would have him with 3 advantages IMO...1) studying behind Favre (assuming he returns), a much better O-line, and by far better coaching while learning at his own pace. I get the feeling Bradford gets thrown to the wolves pretty quickly and will get eaten alive by them.

Gonna be interesting to watch all 4 of the QB's from this draft and see how their respective careers shake out.

[chummer]

Listened to an interview with Bradford yesterday,he's a huge hockey fan.

His favourite team? The Canucks

[transplant99]

The Lions trading up to get Best was dumb. The Vikings, Colts and Saints were no threat to take a running back and I have a hard time believing the Rams would have taken him to start the second given all their holes on D.

Oh I have no doubt that one of those clubs would have grabbed Best.

This guy, before his concussion, was rated as high as #5 by clubs in the NFL. The thing with picks like this...if you really want the guy at some point and you have reason to beklieve someone else may jump up and grab him, you go for it. IMO this was not a reach in any way, so it was sound judgement to make the move. Whether he makes it worthwhile or not will not be known for a couple years in most liklihood though.

The guy played in a pretty good system and even last year because of his injury (truly one of the scariest i have ever seen, admittedly) he played 9 games, combined for almost 1100 yds, scored 16 TD's and never fumbled the ball once in 364 carries in his college career. Pretty impressive numbers no matter how you slice it. I just wish he hadn't been drafted to the NFC North.

[The Ditch]

In the second round I would really like the Seahawks to get a DE. To me their needs now are DE, RB, DT. But, if Brown somehow falls to the #60 (very unlikely IMO) then you might have to take him.

After thinking about it, to me it was a perfect first round for the Seahawks. At first I wanted Morgan with the 14 but I'm comfortable with Thomas and we haven't had a guy like him in a long time.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Just looking thru the 1st rd and noticed some schools that almost always send kids to the NFL on day 1 who were shut out completely...

USC
Ohio St.
Georgia
LSU
Miami
Auburn
UCLA
Oregon
Boston College
Illinois
Louisville
Maryland
Mississippi
North Carolina
Notre Dame
Oregon St.
Purdue
Va. Tech
Wisconsin


Just shows how parity is taking control in the NCAA with the limits on scholarships and the awareness that it doesnt matter where you play any more to get attention from the NFL scouts.

That is some parity but looking a the top 5 Oklahoma killed it. Nicely done by them. Other than that its hard to believe the likes of Ohio St., Miami, USC etc not producing even 1 first rounder this year. Good for other programs.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Trojan97

The Lions trading up to get Best was dumb. The Vikings, Colts and Saints were no threat to take a running back and I have a hard time believing the Rams would have taken him to start the second given all their holes on D. I thought they were moving up to take Charles Brown before someone like the Colts or Saints potentially could. Just a weird move to me.

I think the bigger concern would be that another team would trade up an take Best before the Lions.

I am not a fan of the deal because I think they could have waited and then likely had either Best or Brown at their 2nd round spot, but it was a 4th round pick so no big loss.

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

McDaniels' said the other day that Tebow has already corrected his delivery.

Someone on ESPN raised the point about does Tebow still maintain his new throwing motion once he gets into the game or does he revert back to his natural throwing motion, especially when pressured or late in the game when he gets tired.

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

That is some parity but looking a the top 5 Oklahoma killed it. Nicely done by them. Other than that its hard to believe the likes of Ohio St., Miami, USC etc not producing even 1 first rounder this year. Good for other programs.

USC will probably have 3 guys taken in the first 10, maybe 5, or the second round so still pretty good, but there certainly are a lot of top end talent coming from smaller programs.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by moon

There may have been some that liked aspects of Russel's game/physical abilities but there were a ton of question marks about him and more people saying he would be a bust than any other first overall pick that I can remember.

He was the consensus #1 pick and top rated QB in the draft with rare size and physical ability. If the Raiders didn't pick him he would have gone top 5 for sure as there were rumors other teams were in love with his physical gifts. He was the right pick for the Raiders and certainly wasn't a reach like Darrius Heyward Bust. There were some questions about his drive but I don't think anyone could have predicted the near legendary lack of dedication and lazyness that he has showed. I don't blame the Raiders for the pick because they had a need at QB and Russell was the top rated QB in that draft class. He looks to be a bust but like I said I don't think any of the experts could have predicted such a lack of dedication.

[transplant99]

He was the consensus #1 pick and top rated QB in the draft with rare size and physical ability.

No he wasn't. He was a concensus 1st ROUND pick and was one of the top 3 rated going in that draft along with Brady Quinn and Kevin kolb IIRC, but they could have been selected in any order and no one would have been surprised. Davis just started to gush over the guy after the combine....and we all know what that means in the end.

His size and athletic ability was never ever in question I agree, but everyone questioned his attitude and his work ethic to make it at the NFL level.

Oh...and i have no idea how DHB is considered a bust at this point...that team is completely dysfunctional and until they settle the QB spot in particular and the whole team in general, its hard to know how good or bad any of their players are, especially on offense. The kid has played ONE year...in oakland....no way to know how he will pan at this point in time. No question he was a massive reach at the spot they took him, but thats not his fault.