Calgarypuck Mafia Game Thread

[DropIt]

Remove vote: Dissentowner

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

We have to shift votes before the deadline, this is not good. I have given my reasons to suspect Bonded. I also gave my thoughts to him and bizaro possibly working together. I find it very interesting that on post #285 bizaro says he is willing to vote for either agulati or scornfire but does not bring up Bonded out of the three with votes. When I ask him to clarify why that is in post #287 he never responds. Nothing. Again, I have no problem throwing my vote on any of those three but I still have a bad feeling about Bonded.

I also noticed the omission of bonded as a potential vote for bizaro interesting, and the lack of response to the direct question from you is very strange.

The strange voting patterns by agulati as mentioned by GGG in particular are also notable.

I find Scornfire's posts to more believable, it just seems like more honest language and explanations for his posts without being over the top.

I'm willing to move my vote to either Agulati or Bonded to help build consensus.

[crazy_eoj]

remove vote: Puxlut

[Oling_Roachinen]

Day 1

With 15 posters, it takes 8 votes to ban user prior to deadline. It takes at least 5 votes to ban user at the deadline. A tied vote at deadline results in no banning.

Vote Count:

Votes Scornfire (4): Hockeyguy15, SebC, devo22, bizaro86

Votes agulati (4): Winnipegfan, mrkajz44, Bonded, GGG

Votes Bonded (4): dissentowner, agulati, Fuzz, Puxlut

Hasn’t Voted (3):
Scornfire, Dropit, crazy_eoj

Deadline is Thursday, January 24th at 10:00 PM Mountain Time.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by Scornfire

I admitted several times to being new, and how does using "Meta" mean anything? I was clearly thinking this involved more roleplaying (I play D&D and MMOs mainly), hence me posting that all this self/past game referential stuff was kind of dissapointing

I still think you and GGG are in cahoots

Because when I was new to the game I had no idea what "meta" meant, so rightly or wrongly I found it interesting that as a new player you were throwing a term like that around.

I'm not sure why you keep thinking GGG and I are in cahoots. I decided to go back and look, and as far as I can tell this is the most in depth you have gotten on your theory.

Originally Posted by Scornfire

My presumption atm based on the degree to which my toast burned this morning, is that you and GGG at the very least are part of the troll patrol, ie. I got baited by the Troll team into making myself an easy target, not anything specifically that you posted, morseo GGG's "advice" and the fact you both seem to be overtly trying to advance a Flames fan strategy while casting aspersions on everybody else and protecting newcomers who will be far less useful in advancing towards a Flames fan victory

Again, I eat paint

So GGG and I are together because we baited you, advice from GGG, and we are trying to advance Flames fan strategy while casting aspersions on everyone else and protecting newcomers.

I asked about me baiting you and you said "not anything specifically you posted". So you feel like I baited you but you can't tell me what I did to do it.

Can you tell me who I have been attacking other than you? Mrkajz made a comment about his blue font being hard to read, so I made a quip about being an Oilers fan. I said from my previous experience Puxlut and dissentowner were more reactionary than logical, I don't view that as an attack. Lastly can you please point out where I have been protecting newcomers? Aren't you a newcomer and I have voted for you?

From my point of view it's pretty odd that you keep trying to bunch me in with GGG when your arguement for me being in cahoots with him have no back up included.

Now after looking at this what I find interesting is that after my vote on you GGG comes in and says wasting a ban on an inactive benefits the Oilers. It isn't uncommon in these games to put a vote or two on inactives to put them on notice. It seems odd to come to the defense of you when there was no vote momentum on you. As far as I can tell he did not reiterate his point when people put votes on WinnipegFan for being inactive. Later on he "forgets" to even count your 4 votes against when reminding people of the vote count of people close to being banned.

[crazy_eoj]

Scornfire who are you voting for tonight and why?

[Scornfire]

My tying you to GGG is purely a gut feeling, which is why I admitted I eat paint

I'm mostly just talking out loud about what I think the strategy is between the Trolls team and trying to build off who might be working with GGG who is most clearly fitting the bill for my poorly educated assessment. Your involvement with the whole mod conversation seems pointless from a tactical standpoint if you actually were trying to advance us to a win, I only see it as a staged attempt to convince us you're a Flames fan. (I see everyone's point about using scum/town, we might need to think up an abbreviation lol)

Voting for me doesn't really mean much, especially since it was a perfectly valid reason with relation to my lack of involvement to that point, your first few posts are relating to helping the new players. Also, you've actually responded to my stupidity, yet GGG hasn't really responded to my accusations at all, which seems odd

Maybe I need to put the Tequila away, but Basically my Eyes are on GGG/You/Sebc/Biz, I feel like at least 2 out of that list have to be Oilers, but I think I'm falling into confirmation bias traps and over-analyzing everything, which seems surprisingly hard to avoid. I want to hear DropIt's theory later today before I vote again

[Scornfire]

Originally Posted by crazy_eoj

Scornfire who are you voting for tonight and why?

Pedro at this rate

[Scornfire]

To Clarify, I don't think that either Bonded or Agulti are trolls. Agulti has defended me, so that might be skewing my view of him. Bonded just seems like he's new as well. I knew the terminology just fine and have only watched a bit of this game several years ago, haven't really heard any harder evidence than that for him being coached. If anything, Fuzz is asking too many questions for my taste (He asks the meaning of scum on page 14 but it's been in usage since page 1?) but I'm not really sure how closely he's able to monitor the game during the day and he's also a newbie so /shrug

[Scornfire]

Correction: Scum is first used on page 4, and mentioned multiple times prior to Fuzz asking with relation to bonded, then he uses Bonded's "Knowledge" of terminology as a reason to vote for him

also, this;

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Just wondering if we can try to keep the theme going, so instead of town and scum or whatever, it's Flames and Oilers(or trolls, Greasers etc).

Originally Posted by Fuzz

What is "scrum" and "scum"?

I'm not sure what to make of that really

[Fuzz]

Scornfire, just to clarify I knew what scum was from previous posts. But bonded posted both, and I knew one was a typo, so it seemed a good opportunity to call him on the usage of it, because he claims to be new, but is using old terms. Sure, he could have picked it up from this thread, but it comes off as odd. So my query was more to see his response to using old terms, as opposed to me being a dummy.

[Fuzz]

I was a little miffed others chimed in before Bonded could respond, as I thought it a nice little trap, asking it in the way I did.

[Scornfire]

I can Dill with that reasoning, not sure I'd still be voting for him based on that though

[Fuzz]

But it wasn't just that, I mentioned 5 items(some that others had already brought up). Honestly not a lot to go on this round and I'm fully willing to switch votes if I see something else that catches my eye.

[Scornfire]

I mean, 4/5 of those reasons held no real weight for me (Mostly because I did the same thing re: the conn smythe talk, I actually thought that was what we were Supposed to discuss day 1 lol). And the RNG seemed to just be a throwaway joke, that'd be awful strategy for either team. Asking about the etiquette I can see as being weird though

[mrkajz44]

So the 3 who haven't voted need to cast a vote now so we can see where we are at. We cannot afford to not get a ban today - the card flip of the person banned will give us a ton of insight based on how votes went. The night ban will probably be much less help.

Anyone willing to move? I'm pretty firm on who I've voted for, but really don't want to miss getting a ban on day one.

[Scornfire]

DropIt said they'd post their theory around now so I'm still waiting on that, I'd probably lean towards Biz if people move votes based on what others have said. As it is now I'd basically flip a coin between the other 2, or just not vote if I'm the one picked

[crazy_eoj]

vote agulati

[DropIt]

Theory wasnt as great as I thought. Lack if body of work more than anything

What would the concern be about posting these theories in concern of mafia members treading lighter or paying attention to things we may be keeping an eye on

[DropIt]

Also if we are voting now, the one I get the worst vibe from would be Bonded or Scorn. I think Diss brings up a good point and seems like Bonded has treaded lightly around since it being brought up, and still has yet to fo so. So that's probably where my vote is going