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Old 08-15-2018, 10:21 AM   #321
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I really believe that there will be a main character final death in the next movie that involves the ability for a mortal man to handle a infinity stone. Hey question? Can a mortal use the gauntlet with the stones in it?


I can see where Tony tries to use technology to use something like the Time Stone long enough to reverse mistakes. Or Cap because of his super constitution. Or Hulk, but he's literally too stupid to know what to do with it.


But there has to be an impact to the end of this phase of the Marvel stuff.


A devastating final death
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:23 AM   #322
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My guess is, Iron Man saves the world and dies in the process. We get one more Captain America movie before Steve Rogers kicks the bucket.
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Old 08-15-2018, 10:26 AM   #323
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My guess is, Iron Man saves the world and dies in the process. We get one more Captain America movie before Steve Rogers kicks the bucket.
It may be too obvious but I feel like that is the end game here that has been set up through the whole series and especially Civil War.

Tony needs to sacrifice himself to save Cap and probably Spiderman and dies in the process.

That feels like the only fitting end to this whole thing and there was a reason that Tony and Captain didn't reunite at all in infinity war.
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:08 AM   #324
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Honestly, both Vision and Strange were pretty ineffectual given that they were using infinity stones... especially when the movie opens by demonstrating that Thanos can use the power stone to make the Hulk his bitch without even breaking a sweat. Strange and Vision, meanwhile, both get owned by bad guys who then turn out to be kind of... wimps. I mentioned the Corvus Glaive thing above, but the same is true of Ebony Maw. He mocks Strange, captures him with relative ease despite being hassled by Spider Man, and then... that's all it takes to kill this guy? Seriously, Strange couldn't handle him?

Just some weird nerfing of the guys who are supposed to be the more powerful characters in the group.
Mere mortals cannot use the stones. GotG had Quill barely be able to use one, and only because he's half-planet. And the cosmic cube controlled the stone within it, so that Loki could (barely) use its power.

Even Thanos needs the Gauntlet to be able control the stones.
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:20 AM   #325
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Mere mortals cannot use the stones. GotG had Quill barely be able to use one, and only because he's half-planet. And the cosmic cube controlled the stone within it, so that Loki could (barely) use its power.

Even Thanos needs the Gauntlet to be able control the stones.
Strange and Vision aren't mere mortals, and both have shown the ability to use their stones in the past. Strange was able to take on Dormammu. Vision was a total rag doll through the entire IW movie.

There's also no reason why Loki would be less able to wield the stones than Thanos.

Admittedly this is all kind of nerd griping. I would like to have seen them do more with the Vision though.
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:41 AM   #326
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Yeah, they're mortals. They can use a teensy amount of the stone's power, anything more and they blow up like Genesis in Humperdoo.
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Old 08-15-2018, 03:18 PM   #327
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I think that there will be more sacrifice to come, some deaths will be reversed obviously Black Panther and Spider-Man are cornerstones right now that have movies still to come, but there will be permanent death, there has to be.

Most likely Cap or IonMan laying down their life, both have expressed interest in moving on from the franchise.
Dr. Strange saw them win. Who cares if it was 1 out 14M, he clearly knows how to beat Thanos. He set it up so they were in that timeline. Beating Thanos means stopping his plan, not just defeating him physically cause at this point he's 0 threat to the remaining half population.

So his whole desperate and sad "there's no other way" to Tony Stark as he faded into nothingness, isn't saying "there was no other way, I had to give him the stone," but rather "there was no other way, sorry I can't save you." At least that's my belief.
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Scarlet Witch, the X-Man who has completed her Halle Berry arc of losing her weird accent as the movies go on.
Also, I'm not really sure how to process the knowledge there are people who want to have sex with Thanos.
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Old 08-16-2018, 07:48 AM   #329
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Dr. Strange saw them win. Who cares if it was 1 out 14M, he clearly knows how to beat Thanos. He set it up so they were in that timeline. Beating Thanos means stopping his plan, not just defeating him physically cause at this point he's 0 threat to the remaining half population.

So his whole desperate and sad "there's no other way" to Tony Stark as he faded into nothingness, isn't saying "there was no other way, I had to give him the stone," but rather "there was no other way, sorry I can't save you." At least that's my belief.
He didn't seem that broken up about "dying", so he likely also saw that all of them will be back eventually.
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Old 08-16-2018, 08:34 AM   #330
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He didn't seem that broken up about "dying", so he likely also saw that all of them will be back eventually.

Or saw that no matter what he dies, so nothing he can do.
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Or saw that no matter what he dies, so nothing he can do.
Riiiiight.

Half the Marvel universe killed off unceremoniously even though most have more movies sceduled to be made.
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He didn't seem that broken up about "dying", so he likely also saw that all of them will be back eventually.
Yeah, I think that's a no-brainer. I just think he saw Tony die in the 1 in 14M possibilities where they defeat Thanos and everyone else lives. He seemed very apologetic to Tony as he died, which is suppose to seem it's like he gave away the stone, but I think it's obvious that it's because he couldn't save Tony.
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So what if Thanos after having wiped out the universe goes to his farm, turns on some cool jazz to relax and starts absentmindedly snapping his fingers in time to the music.
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So what if Thanos after having wiped out the universe goes to his farm, turns on some cool jazz to relax and starts absentmindedly snapping his fingers in time to the music.
The gauntlet was destroyed the first time he snapped his fingers, was it not?
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The gauntlet was destroyed the first time he snapped his fingers, was it not?
Was there not another gauntlet that Thor saw on Asgard? Or was that just a prototype?
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Was there not another gauntlet that Thor saw on Asgard? Or was that just a prototype?
That was a fake.
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The gauntlet was destroyed the first time he snapped his fingers, was it not?
After he used the gauntlet it looked all smashed, but I think the stones survived because shortly after he opened a portal with it to warp away.
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Old 08-16-2018, 11:42 AM   #338
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As far as I know the gauntlet was still functional as were all of the stones.
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Old 08-16-2018, 12:32 PM   #339
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So what if Thanos after having wiped out the universe goes to his farm, turns on some cool jazz to relax and starts absentmindedly snapping his fingers in time to the music.
If you want to get nit-picky, is it simply the snapping of a finger that causes half the universe to die? I would assume that's not a built in function of the glove. Rather it's Thanos activating the stones by snapping his fingers and it's actually him wishing for something that causes it to do that.
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Riiiiight.

Half the Marvel universe killed off unceremoniously even though most have more movies sceduled to be made.

I think you're mistaking us as fans 'knowing' what will need to happen vs a character in the movie having the extra knowledge



Just because Strange saw 1 way that they defeated Thanos, does not mean that 1 way showed them all being brought back to life.


If he see he dies in every scenario, he wouldn't be shocken up. He knew no matter what he was going to die.
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