[News] Patrick Kane being investigated for rape. UPD: DA announces no charges

[HUSKER4FLAMES]

http://www.slate.com/articles/techno..._invaders.html

Some kind of news breaker

[CroFlames]

IF the investigation drags on and no charges are laid by camp, it'll be interesting what the Hawks do. Suspending a guy without even being charged feels kinda wrong.

If he is charged, it's a no brainer to suspend him with pay until convicted. If convicted, suspension without pay, or worse.

It would be shame as a fan of hockey to see one of the best talents in the league essentially be expelled from the league.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Makarov

I suspect that all the police are waiting for are the results of the physical exam (to see if they are consistent with the complainant's allegations re the type of sexual touching involved). I expect that charges are a virtual certainty at this point (barring a sudden recantation by the complainant).

I agree.
Absolute certainty there will be charges, assuming she is credible and evidence is consistent with her complaint.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

IF the investigation drags on and no charges are laid by camp, it'll be interesting what the Hawks do. Suspending a guy without even being charged feels kinda wrong.

If he is charged, it's a no brainer to suspend him with pay until convicted. If convicted, suspension without pay, or worse.

It would be shame as a fan of hockey to see one of the best talents in the league essentially be expelled from the league.

You were bang on until the end.

If convicted, you rip up his contract (I have no knowledge on if this is legal).

[DJones]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

You were bang on until the end.

If convicted, you rip up his contract (I have no knowledge on if this is legal).

Even if he is 100% guilty, I would be shocked if he was convicted. Just doesn't seem to be the way it works.

Like police abuse, not going to get a conviction but you should get a nice payday.

[mennoknight]

Originally Posted by DJones

Even if he is 100% guilty, I would be shocked if he was convicted. Just doesn't seem to be the way it works.

Like police abuse, not going to get a conviction but you should get a nice payday.

And a lifetime of haunting rape based nightmares, but yeah, sweet payday bro

[GioforPM]

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/atto...ething-stupid/

This story just came up today and has a bit of relevance to the notion that there's llittle consequence for accusers.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by mennoknight

And a lifetime of haunting rape based nightmares, but yeah, sweet payday bro

Well Kane going to jail won't really help the victim out.

But a several million dollar settlement might help her seek therapy and other such help.

[Freeway]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

You were bang on until the end.

If convicted, you rip up his contract (I have no knowledge on if this is legal).

The Kings were able to axe Richards for being investigated.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Well Kane going to jail won't really help the victim out.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Really? Which days were these exactly?

Today. Yesterday. Read this thread, its actually been mentioned several times.

Originally Posted by rubecube

Well if you hold the incredibly outdated and simplistic view that rape is only about sex and only perpetrated by those who can't get laid, while ignoring the litany of studies and information that demonstrate otherwise, then yeah, I guess I could see why you'd believe that.

You're right. People only rape for power. Sex has absolutely nothing at all to do with. Just power. Sex just happens to be the vehicle for their psychosis, but thats all it is.

All I said in my post was that at this point the only fact of the matter is that we have no idea what the facts of the matter are.

It is not impossible that Kane raped her.

It is not impossible that she is going for a payday.

It is not impossible that the truth is somewhere in the middle.

It is not impossible that neither of them are out-of-work actors from Guildford as may have been claimed and are in fact field researchers for a wholly remarkable book.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Well Kane going to jail won't really help the victim out.

But a several million dollar settlement might help her seek therapy and other such help.

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by Freeway

The Kings were able to axe Richards for being investigated.

Considering Kane's history, I have no doubt in my mind that there is some kind of stipulation in his contract, that would void said contract if Kane were to engage in conduct that go against the principles of the Blackhawks organization.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Someone was saying they think conviction is unlikely, and therefore a huge payout will happen.

To which I replied the victim could make use of a payout, but doesn't get much use from Kane simply going to jail.

I think if he raped someone, he should go to jail and I think he will if convicted. But if Kane dangles a few million to the girl's family to settle out of court, it will get settled before a conviction.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by mennoknight

And a lifetime of haunting rape based nightmares, but yeah, sweet payday bro

sup goon

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Someone was saying they think conviction is unlikely, and therefore a huge payout will happen.

To which I replied the victim could make use of a payout, but doesn't get much use from Kane simply going to jail.

I think if he raped someone, he should go to jail and I think he will if convicted. But if Kane dangles a few million to the girl's family to settle out of court, it will get settled before a conviction.

I don't think that you understand the differences between how the criminal and civil justice systems operate.

[TX_Flame]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

And with all due respect, Zamler, which in this case is just about none, I would suggest that your attitude is far more damaging than a false accusation is. Primarily because you are just feeding the belief that nobody will believe a rape victim anyway, so why bother reporting it? Victims are afraid to come forward because of people like you.

And don't try to use "teh SJWs" as a shield for your arguments.

What is "teh SJWS"?

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Makarov

I don't think that you understand the differences between how the criminal and civil justice systems operate.

I'm afraid you might be mistaken on how the American system works. The formula is essentially this: flood the system with money, criminal charges disappear, pay out a settlement.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/07/us/texas-affluenza-teen/

For the crimes of driving drunk and causing a crash -- which killed four people and critically injured two -- Couch received no jail time.

[PsYcNeT]

There is no American system; it varies wildly state to state due to the autonomy they are afforded.

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Well Kane going to jail won't really help the victim out.

A contender emerges.

Polak, a rebuttal to your title challenger?