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Old 08-07-2015, 09:06 AM   #301
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That is a comment open to a lot of interpretation

Wasting your time in waiting around the police station waiting for some news to break out?

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Wasting your time in the case seems flimsy?
Who the hell uses "u"s and "r"s when quoting someone haha
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Old 08-07-2015, 09:09 AM   #302
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Who the hell uses "u"s and "r"s when quoting someone haha
Someone on twitter short of characters
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Old 08-07-2015, 09:09 AM   #303
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Who still indents the first line of a paragraph?
The same people who still put two spaces after a period.
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Frankly, I have no idea what he (or she) is trying to communicate with that post.
Pretty good idea of what he *is* communicating, though I doubt it is what he actually is trying to communicate.
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Old 08-07-2015, 09:10 AM   #305
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Who the hell uses "u"s and "r"s when quoting someone haha
A product of twitter's character limit methinks.
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Old 08-07-2015, 09:11 AM   #306
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Old 08-07-2015, 09:19 AM   #307
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The same people who still put two spaces after a period.
I had no idea about these rule changes until it was brought up here. I went through 4 university level English courses in the early 2000's and now write report letters nearly every day. When did it change?
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Old 08-07-2015, 09:22 AM   #308
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I had no idea about these rule changes until it was brought up here. I went through 4 university level English courses in the early 2000's and now write report letters nearly every day. When did it change?
It changed when computers stopped using mono space. My New Years Resolution this year was to stop using two spaces after a period. Man is it a hard habit to break.
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Old 08-07-2015, 09:30 AM   #309
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I had no idea about these rule changes until it was brought up here. I went through 4 university level English courses in the early 2000's and now write report letters nearly every day. When did it change?
http://www.slate.com/articles/techno..._invaders.html

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Every modern typographer agrees on the one-space rule. It's one of the canonical rules of the profession, in the same way that waiters know that the salad fork goes to the left of the dinner fork and fashion designers know to put men's shirt buttons on the right and women's on the left. Every major style guide—including the Modern Language Association Style Manual and the Chicago Manual of Style—prescribes a single space after a period. (The Publications Manual of the American Psychological Association, used widely in the social sciences, allows for two spaces in draft manuscripts but recommends one space in published work.) Most ordinary people would know the one-space rule, too, if it weren't for a quirk of history. In the middle of the last century, a now-outmoded technology—the manual typewriter—invaded the American workplace. To accommodate that machine's shortcomings, everyone began to type wrong. And even though we no longer use typewriters, we all still type like we do. (Also see the persistence of the dreaded Caps Lock key.)

The problem with typewriters was that they used monospaced type—that is, every character occupied an equal amount of horizontal space. This bucked a long tradition of proportional typesetting, in which skinny characters (like I or 1) were given less space than fat ones (like W or M). Monospaced type gives you text that looks "loose" and uneven; there's a lot of white space between characters and words, so it's more difficult to spot the spaces between sentences immediately. Hence the adoption of the two-space rule—on a typewriter, an extra space after a sentence makes text easier to read. Here's the thing, though: Monospaced fonts went out in the 1970s. First electric typewriters and then computers began to offer people ways to create text using proportional fonts. Today nearly every font on your PC is proportional. (Courier is the one major exception.) Because we've all switched to modern fonts, adding two spaces after a period no longer enhances readability, typographers say. It diminishes it.
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APA format, used in most social sciences in school, has indented paragraphs.
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Maybe it's not too late for EA sports to pull their NHL 16 cover....they did it in 2004
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Old 08-07-2015, 09:46 AM   #312
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Maybe it's not too late for EA sports to pull their NHL 16 cover....they did it in 2004
I fully expect EA to NOT release a Kane NHL 16 cover...
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Only on the internet does a discussion of one vs two spaces after a period break out in the middle of a discussion of a serious allegation of criminal wrongdoing of a star player.

And also, I don't care what typographers say, 2 spaces is where it's at. Also, don't preach at me about how to type when you use sentences like "everyone began to type wrong", Slate.*

* Dictionary.com informs me that "wrong" is also an adverb, so #%!@ it. I guess everything goes these days (just ask #88, amirite?), including 2 spaces.

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Came here for Patrick Kane details, leaving feeling better about my technical communications class.
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APA format, used in most social sciences in school, has indented paragraphs.
I suppose. However, I read and write a large volume of documents in my profession and never see indented paragraphs in correspondence (other documents generally have numbered paragraphs so indentation issue is moot.)
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In some ways its a good thing. It means we've learned from the days where merely mentioning rape meant that people were screaming for blood and demanded that the man be passed around a correctional facility like the village bicycle.
Really? Which days were these exactly?

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At the end of the day though I think it upsets people more because of the lack of consequences on the other end.

If a man is even accused of potentially maybe committing rape his name is dragged through the mud never to be clean again.

If a woman accuses that man for money and its found to be groundless they're politely sent along their way with maybe a small fine and some community service.

Its a low-risk/high-reward strategy.
Just completely untrue, especially when it comes to athletes and celebrities. Let's keep in mind that the lack of a conviction doesn't mean mean the allegations were false. Kobe Bryant's name certainly isn't mud, neither is Doug Gilmour's. Now let's look at some athletes and celebrities who we know likely committed the crimes they were accused of and how badly it damaged their reputations afterwards.

Roman Polanski - Admitted to raping a 13 year-old girl and fled to France to avoid hail time, received a standing ovation at the Oscars a few years back.

Woody Allen - Continues to make money and receive critical acclaim

Ben Roethlisberger - One Super Bowl, a few pro bowls, hundreds of millions dollars. No one even mentions it anymore.

Mike Tyson - Was actually convicted of a violent rape,now beloved pop culture icon.

Mike Ribeiro doesn't really seem like he's going to see any consequences.

The list is actually much longer and more depressing if you actually go and look for it. Now look at the accusers in each of those cases, the accusers in Steubenville (sp?), Marysville, FSU, etc., etc., and how they were destroyed by the general public and it certainly doesn't look like such a high reward for accusers.

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Especially in conjunction with what some people have said, most athletes dont need to rape anyone as theres usually a great many perfectly willing participants.
Well if you hold the incredibly outdated and simplistic view that rape is only about sex and only perpetrated by those who can't get laid, while ignoring the litany of studies and information that demonstrate otherwise, then yeah, I guess I could see why you'd believe that.

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Sure, maybe they've got a mental thing where thats the only thing that does it for them, thats always possible, but in cases like this there is a far greater likelihood that someone will be paid to disappear whether anyone is guilty or not and until that stops there probably a greater than average likelihood of a fraudulent claim.
Again, the statistics just don't match the general perception here.

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And if he did it then the torches and pitchforks will well and truly be out and ready.
Highly unlikely.
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Anyone have any idea how long these investigations take and when we might see charges? On CSI it's like 45 minutes and then they find a key piece of evidence that prompts the guy to confess.
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That is a comment open to a lot of interpretation

Wasting your time in waiting around the police station waiting for some news to break out?

or

Wasting your time in the case seems flimsy?
has to be the former, police would never admit they have a flimsy case

investigations like this take weeks/months, not days
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I suspect that all the police are waiting for are the results of the physical exam (to see if they are consistent with the complainant's allegations re the type of sexual touching involved). I expect that charges are a virtual certainty at this point (barring a sudden recantation by the complainant).
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On my phone I always press space twice and it inputs a period automatically. I had always assumed that it gave two spaces as well. I'll have to test this.
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