The Tariff Thread

[Engine09]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Considering his current health, I doubt he’ll even last this term.

I watched a depressing youtube clip recently where the point was made that even a person at his age can hold on quite a while with top tier medical care. The point was that economic factors and the type of health care available have a huge effect, the guy said 8 more years is possible.

Ugh, I can only imagine that decrepit piece of #### sitting on his throne wheezing out palpatine like orders. I'm still hoping they lower his carcass into a grave in 2026.

[CroFlames]

I hope Biden outlives him

[cheevers]

I am curious if they change it to allow 3rd terms, would the dems bring out Obama? Would he want to do it again?

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by cheevers

I am curious if they change it to allow 3rd terms, would the dems bring out Obama? Would he want to do it again?

Can they just "change it"

Isn't the 2 term limit enshrined in the Constitution?

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Can they just "change it"

Isn't the 2 term limit enshrined in the Constitution?

Yes it's in the constitution. It requires constitutional amendment which, practically speaking, is impossible in modern day US politics.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

What happens if the implement that plan and Vance refuses to resign?

Pick a MAGA-zealot run for president but promise Vance VP when Trump takes over

[Locke]

Originally Posted by cheevers

I am curious if they change it to allow 3rd terms, would the dems bring out Obama? Would he want to do it again?

I have proposed this many times. I dont know necessarily where I stand in regards to Term Limits, I think they have many benefits as well as drawbacks.

For instance...

If America agreed to look the other way and instead of Trump vs. Hillary...would you, if you could, take Obama for round 3?

I sure as hell would have.

Then again...it should also guarantee that Don Drumpf is now done...presumably. So...two edges to that sword.

Now look at the current political landscape. I think the vast majority of people hate Trump. Loathe him. But...who do the Democrats have to trot out against him?

If he runs for round 3...somehow, I'm not an expert on US Political machinations, who do the Dems run against him with even a snowball's chance in Hell?

Buckle up. King Don is just getting warmed up.

[The Yen Man]

Remember when Xi Jinping re-wrote the China CCP equivalent of the constitution that allowed him to stay another term and beyond, and he was (rightfully) criticized for it and the democratic West thumbed their noses saying that's what authoritarian governments do, and that our superior Western democracies would never fall victim to that? Funny how MAGA now look forward to Trump ripping up their constitution to stay in power a third term.

What a wild time we live in. We're witnessing the dismantling of US democracy in front of our very eyes.

[puffnstuff]

https://bsky.app/profile/robsonfletc.../3m472izgilc2x

Doug Ford: "My champion Wab Kinew, he's 100% behind it. Another champion, Premier Eby, as well ... total different political stripes than I am but we're all sticking together."

Reporter:"Danielle Smith doesn't like the ads, though..."

Ford: "Of course Danielle Smith doesn't like the ads..."

[The Yen Man]

You know you're doing something right when Danielle Smith doesn't like or approve it.

[opendoor]

The ads are just a waste of time and money, and almost totally counterproductive (other than for domestic consumption in Canada). They seem to be based on a couple of faulty assumptions:

1) That the moderate Republicans who may be swayed by recalling Reganism will somehow be influenced to change their course by this kind of thing. It didn't work when Harris brought out Liz Cheney on the campaign trail and it doesn't work now. Moderate Republicans have chosen power over the Constitution and democracy.

2) That the administration even cares about shifts in public opinion at this point. Even if these commercials changed public opinion a bit, so what? Tariffs are already unpopular and the administration seems content in tipping the scales so they don't really have to worry about popular support in the coming years.

The only real hope is that conditions get bad enough that there's actually a groundswell of popular opposition to the administration. They themselves won't necessarily care, but the other levers of power (Supreme Court, Legislative branch, etc.) are only likely to continue to ignore their Constitutional duties as long as Trump's hold on power seems invincible. If he becomes vulnerable due to a big economic downturn, a deterioration in quality of life, or even health issues, then you may see rats start to desert a sinking ship. But a few expensive commercials paid for by Canadian taxpayers aren't going to lead to that in any way.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Yes it's in the constitution. It requires constitutional amendment which, practically speaking, is impossible in modern day US politics.

So they’ll just mark it up in red sharpie then?

[Looch City]

Didn't Ford threaten to the cut or heavily tariff power exports and Trump caved (a bit) earlier in the year?

Why not do that again? Talk is cheap, actually set #### in motion and then watch them TACO.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Didn't Ford threaten to the cut or heavily tariff power exports and Trump caved (a bit) earlier in the year?

Why not do that again? Talk is cheap, actually set #### in motion and then watch them TACO.

He was riding a political high in Ontario at the time. He is not right now.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Didn't Ford threaten to the cut or heavily tariff power exports and Trump caved (a bit) earlier in the year?

Why not do that again? Talk is cheap, actually set #### in motion and then watch them TACO.

They imposed a 25% tariff on energy exports but then quickly rescinded it. Cutting off power completely probably just hurts the province more than anything since they need the revenue.

They should put the tariffs back on. My only fear is that I think there is a less than zero chance that the U.S. takes military action if we drastically challenged their energy security and dependence.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

They imposed a 25% tariff on energy exports but then quickly rescinded it. Cutting off power completely probably just hurts the province more than anything since they need the revenue.

They should put the tariffs back on. My only fear is that I think there is a less than zero chance that the U.S. takes military action if we drastically challenged their energy security and dependence.

Breaking news, Trump sends carrier group to Lake Ontario.


/yes, I know.

[puffnstuff]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/amb...rant-9.6957854

The U.S. ambassador to Canada delivered an expletive-laced tirade at Ontario's trade representative at an event in Ottawa on Monday, multiple witnesses tell CBC News.

One witness said Hoekstra appeared to be upset about the anti-tariff ad that the province recently ran on television in the U.S., which has infuriated President Donald Trump. The witness said Hoesktra could be heard using the F-word and also mentioned Ontario Premier Doug Ford by name.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/amb...rant-9.6957854

The U.S. ambassador to Canada delivered an expletive-laced tirade at Ontario's trade representative at an event in Ottawa on Monday, multiple witnesses tell CBC News.

One witness said Hoekstra appeared to be upset about the anti-tariff ad that the province recently ran on television in the U.S., which has infuriated President Donald Trump. The witness said Hoesktra could be heard using the F-word and also mentioned Ontario Premier Doug Ford by name.

Oooh....poor baby! It sucks when people stick up for themselves so the US cant run rough-shod all over them doesnt it?

Americans are 10-ply right now.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/amb...rant-9.6957854

The U.S. ambassador to Canada delivered an expletive-laced tirade at Ontario's trade representative at an event in Ottawa on Monday, multiple witnesses tell CBC News.

One witness said Hoekstra appeared to be upset about the anti-tariff ad that the province recently ran on television in the U.S., which has infuriated President Donald Trump. The witness said Hoesktra could be heard using the F-word and also mentioned Ontario Premier Doug Ford by name.

This dude has been such a smug prick ever since he was assigned to the position, and all he's done is spew nonsense and act like a complete jackass. There was a story the other day after Trump called off the trade talks where Hoekstra was addressing a Canadian audience at some event and said that Canada has "burned all the bridges" in regards to Ontario's anti-tariff ad, and that he doesn't see how they'll get back to the bargaining table before 2026.

Last I checked, we're not the ones who started this stupid bulls***. There's only one person in this entire fiasco who has burned any bridges, and it's the Orange Turd in the White House who decided to piss off the entire world by slapping illegal & unjustified tariffs on America's closest G7 allies and upend global trade.

[Fuzz]