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Old 10-19-2014, 11:27 PM   #3181
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I said from the start lists were dumb. Don GGG wanted to know what everyone thought.

He's still trying to do it.
Can we please lynch girly first.

This is ridiculous. It is so anti town. Accusing people, putting suspicions down in writing allows us to follow people's trail. Day 1 and 2 I could see this being newb town behaviour but come on, by now you have to have figured out that the more information we have out there the easier it is to catch slipups.

By your logic no one should talk ever because then we can surprise the mafia.
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Can we please lynch girly first.

This is ridiculous. It is so anti town. Accusing people, putting suspicions down in writing allows us to follow people's trail. Day 1 and 2 I could see this being newb town behaviour but come on, by now you have to have figured out that the more information we have out there the easier it is to catch slipups.

By your logic no one should talk ever because then we can surprise the mafia.

yeah, we caught all your slipups
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Old 10-19-2014, 11:32 PM   #3183
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we also revealed about 4 people on day 2, that's was insane.
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Old 10-19-2014, 11:32 PM   #3184
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Watch who is driving this bus right now.
Me.

Someone that up until a very short time ago, you were more than happy to back as a townie. In fact you at one point called me and Wood the only two confirmed townies alive.

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I drury and wood are confirmed town already so any additional confirmation is redundant. HG is proven town as soon as he uses his power to save a townie. So really killing Timbo just clears Timbo.
I am still 50/50 on him but don't see the value.
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Now that you are revealed you need to use your power today. After you use your power you are confirmed town like drury and wood. So there will be lots of targets including you so you might make it.
Then you had this weird change of mind that my powers were anti-town so I was less likely town.

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You're riding my skirt tails GGG to look like light, I'm not riding yours.
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Old 10-19-2014, 11:38 PM   #3185
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I am done defending myself and you guys can make up your own minds on how to vote but I think we should drag out today as long as possible right until the deadline. We have 2 game days to find scum and we should use them. My updated list will go up tomorrow night but I think going back through the votes will reveal a lot of patterns.

The Bizaro vote:
Bizaro - star, mrkajz, gpmatt, oling, bax, formulate, devo, wood, girly
That list goes town, dead, dead, oling, Aneas, dead, dead, town, girly

Leaving you with
Oling,
Aneas,
Girly. At least one of these is scum

The RD vote at lynch
Puxlut, formulate, GP_Matt, Baxter Renegade, dissentowner, mrkajz44, devo22, Wood, East Coast Flame, hmmhmmcamo, Delgar, GirlySports

That goes town, dead, dead, Aeneas, Diss, dead, dead, town, dead, dead, dead, girly
So leaves
Aeneas
Diss
Girly

I will look at more tomorrow but vote analysis is how we will win now.
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Old 10-19-2014, 11:38 PM   #3186
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And if it's any surprise, the darkness killed ECF.

Yay for lame powers!
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Old 10-19-2014, 11:39 PM   #3187
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we also revealed about 4 people on day 2, that's was insane.
And how did the lists contribute to that?
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Can we assume that mrkajz used the deflector on night one for Puxlut, that was redirected to bizaro?
Pika's first sentence should have said GGG instead of Puxlut.

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Pikachu! If you used your power on the ECF and mrkajz redirected ECF, it would have redirected your power away as well!
Pika could have made up a story that my action got redirected, and that I used it on ECF, but I feel the only way for me to play this game is to be honest. The mafia can lie all they want.
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Old 10-19-2014, 11:48 PM   #3189
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Pika's first sentence should have said GGG instead of Puxlut.



Pika could have made up a story that my action got redirected, and that I used it on ECF, but I feel the only way for me to play this game is to be honest. The mafia can lie all they want.
Not likely, why would have mrkajz used his power on puxlut when our doctor was disclosed. And why would he redirect it from pux to ECF. The deflector power acts on the person being targeted.

To me it's clear that there is a mafia redirector who saw the guardian membership change, figured it was poison power and tried to get me to kill our doctor.
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Old 10-19-2014, 11:54 PM   #3190
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Pika could have made up a story that my action got redirected, and that I used it on ECF, but I feel the only way for me to play this game is to be honest. The mafia can lie all they want.
I wasn't accusing you of lying. I was just stating the dilemna of the redirector.and why he may not want to risk redirecting ECF because then your doctor spell may have been redirected too.
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Not likely, why would have mrkajz used his power on puxlut when our doctor was disclosed. And why would he redirect it from pux to ECF. The deflector power acts on the person being targeted.

To me it's clear that there is a mafia redirector who saw the guardian membership change, figured it was poison power and tried to get me to kill our doctor.

So they thought you were going to poison Pux?
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Old 10-19-2014, 11:57 PM   #3192
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Does anyone have a list of how many times people have been voted for?

This would identify people who have truly flown under the radar as well as those who have been suspicious the whole time but never lynched. I will only be on at lunch during the day tomorrow.
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Old 10-19-2014, 11:58 PM   #3193
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The RD vote at lynch
Puxlut, formulate, GP_Matt, Baxter Renegade, dissentowner, mrkajz44, devo22, Wood, East Coast Flame, hmmhmmcamo, Delgar, GirlySports
Wait what?

Everyone but Squiggs96 and Timbo voted for a known townie at the lynch. Squiggs96 voted Stazzy and Timbo didn't vote.

You, me and whoever else is alive and not on that list voted GP_Matt. Why are we analyzing that lynch? The Mafia wouldn't care who died between GP_Matt or RatherDashing, heck they probably would have wanted GP_Matt dead because he was active or wanted to not be on the RatherDashing list so they couldn't be blamed for lynching a townie.

This is a good way to distort the vote "analysis." Yeah you also didn't vote for bizaro, in fact you defended him, but that's just a good way to clear your name down the line. If you were mafia, defending a town person early on and saying you weren't involved in the first townie lynch is a great way to come back and defend yourself.

Are you going to bring up the ECF vote where you tried to get us to vote for the doctor using some weird odds?
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Old 10-20-2014, 12:00 AM   #3194
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So they thought you were going to poison Pux?
No, they thought I was going to poison someone.

X redirects any actions that I perform to y. They target the person doing the action not the receiver. We had this discussion on day 3.
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Not likely, why would have mrkajz used his power on puxlut when our doctor was disclosed. And why would he redirect it from pux to ECF. The deflector power acts on the person being targeted.

To me it's clear that there is a mafia redirector who saw the guardian membership change, figured it was poison power and tried to get me to kill our doctor.
Formulate said he tried to kill you (GGG) on night one, and mrk had a redirect power. If mrk used his deflector on you, then formulate's kill ended up on bizarro. Is pika out to lunch here?
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No, they thought I was going to poison someone.

X redirects any actions that I perform to y. They target the person doing the action not the receiver. We had this discussion on day 3.
yes that's right

I think you've misunderstood my discussion with squiggs. We're talking about night 3, when squiggs used his action on wood instead of ECF, he's asking why didn't mkrazj55 use his redirect on ECF so don't blame him!
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Check with Rathji but I think his day kill invite said it would not work on guardians. If the eternal invite comes in before we rewind then I support killing me with that, letting me flip, prove me town and rewind.

I don't understand why the night kills have failed on me. But note they failed for different reasons. One was redirected, the other failed. No one who has disclosed a power yet has said they can redirect anything but we have had several instances of redirection occur.

I can assure you that I am not immune to night or day kills. I would prefer to be lynched to prove my claim is true and rely on Mazrim not making an unwinable game to prove I am town.
Wants to be shot, ends up getting shot, nothing happens. Wants to be lynched, now is pretty much suggesting if we do, we lose. Don't care for his vote analysis that makes him look good when he was voting for a townie as well. And when we keep saying how we will go over votes and analyzed lists, the mafia knows. They'll probably put in more effort than a townsperson to make sure that analysis can't come back and hurt them whereas a townie will just vote who they think is mafia, and unvote as needed.

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Old 10-20-2014, 12:10 AM   #3198
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Wait what?

Everyone but Squiggs96 and Timbo voted for a known townie at the lynch. Squiggs96 voted Stazzy and Timbo didn't vote.

You, me and whoever else is alive and not on that list voted GP_Matt. Why are we analyzing that lynch? The Mafia wouldn't care who died between GP_Matt or RatherDashing, heck they probably would have wanted GP_Matt dead because he was active or wanted to not be on the RatherDashing list so they couldn't be blamed for lynching a townie.

This is a good way to distort the vote "analysis." Yeah you also didn't vote for bizaro, in fact you defended him, but that's just a good way to clear your name down the line. If you were mafia, defending a town person early on and saying you weren't involved in the first townie lynch is a great way to come back and defend yourself.

Are you going to bring up the ECF vote where you tried to get us to vote for the doctor using some weird odds?
The mob won't want to pile on any of the subjects so I believe we can safely assume that there are mob members in both the gpmatt vote and the rd vote. Since most of the people are dead on the rd vote we know that some of the remainder on rd have to be scum. There are two many unknowns on the gpmatt vote to gain any info.

Do your own vote analysis if you believe mine is tainted. I started with lynch one because there are the most dead people on it.

It appears I will be lynched today, this causes us to burn one of our two remaining days, no defence I will make is going to work, so my only way now to help the town is to find a better target than me.

One question when I turn up lynch proof will that prove I am town and end the discussion?
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Let's analyze this vote:

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Hasn’t Voted (7): formulate, squiggs96, Rathji, GGG, Aeneas, GirlySports, Puxlut

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formulate (8): Oling_Roachinen, starseed, Timbo, Wood, mrkajz44, Hockeyguy15, dissentowner, Drury18
Timbo (2):
Hockeyguy15 (1):
Now after this post, Rathji voted for formulate and then Squiggs96 did as well. They get taken off the non-voters list.

I'd like to know why Puxlut, GGG, Aenaes and GirlySports didn't toss in a vote here.
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Let's analyze this vote:



Now after this post, Rathji voted for formulate and then Squiggs96 did as well. They get taken off the non-voters list.

I'd like to know why Puxlut, GGG, Aenaes and GirlySports didn't toss in a vote here.
Why bother? We needed 8 to lynch we had 8 votes, it wasn't near the deadline so there was no risk of unvoting.
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