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Old 10-17-2014, 01:50 PM   #2981
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So oling why were you protected last night?

And who redirected formulates power to Bizaro or deflected formulates use of power on me to Bizaro. I will say that this reveal does not look good for me at all as I had the most to gain from Bizarro's death as I defended him at 8 votes on day one.
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Old 10-17-2014, 01:51 PM   #2982
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So if formulate flips SK mafia does not have 2 night kills! We don't have to play so scared.
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Old 10-17-2014, 01:51 PM   #2983
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If it makes you feel any better, I did have you first night sort of. Just needed an excuse to bring it up that didn't draw a huge target on my back from the rest of the mafia.

I don't know if I buy the serial killer reveal though. Still calling Godfather!

Strange part is my investigation is meant to come back light, not be blocked. Curses. Sorry not sorry Drury
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Old 10-17-2014, 01:52 PM   #2984
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So oling why were you protected last night?
I was not notifed of anything but that I couldn't track Formulate.

Who was apparently standing right behind me! If he is to be believed.
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Old 10-17-2014, 01:52 PM   #2985
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Oh right tracking not investigation. Oops, that would do it.
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Old 10-17-2014, 01:54 PM   #2986
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Sorry, been at hospital all day. Have a crazy eye infection that makes looking at computer screen painful

I was worried about bulletproof, but I figured there was no way that mafia would have it. Totally forgot about the chance that there was a Serial Killer, and I had no idea that the GodFather role existed.

If we want to reset the day and try again, thats fine with me. Wood can pick the target and Timbo can voice his concerns if needed.

One caveat, if Timbo does voice his concerns and the cop doesn't die the next night, then I think Timbo needs to be considered a mafia player. I know he is pretty much considered town but there is a small chance he isnt.
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Old 10-17-2014, 01:56 PM   #2987
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Sorry, been at hospital all day. Have a crazy eye infection that makes looking at computer screen painful

I was worried about bulletproof, but I figured there was no way that mafia would have it. Totally forgot about the chance that there was a Serial Killer, and I had no idea that the GodFather role existed.

If we want to reset the day and try again, thats fine with me. Wood can pick the target and Timbo can voice his concerns if needed.

One caveat, if Timbo does voice his concerns and the cop doesn't die the next night, then I think Timbo needs to be considered a mafia player. I know he is pretty much considered town but there is a small chance he isnt.
Sorry about the eye...If everyone still wants a rewind after formulates reveal just now I am ready to do it whenever.
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:01 PM   #2988
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I'm still in, anyone get the eternal invite?
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:02 PM   #2989
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If HG would prefer, he can save his ability.

The big issue with this is my plan to kill someone with a connection to someone else is pretty much screwed.

I would love to review all these posts, and come up with this, but where are we on the confirmed /likely town list? I have a rough idea but have really just skimmed posts since last night at about 5pm, so might have missed something.

I think we are closer than we might be thinking, despite not having any mafia we have quite a few likely town members and that will narrow down the field nicely.

I am not sure if I have voted yet, but I am worried that the mafia might rush the hammer on formulate to reduce the chances of us figuring out our plan, so I wont be putting a vote on right now, even if I dont have one
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:05 PM   #2990
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If Wood and Drury want me to rewind I will.

Rathji we can't hammer until 10 tonight anyway, so no worry about a quick lynch.
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:05 PM   #2991
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I'm okay with the rewind but I want to put someone up for Wood's consideration.

No shocker prior to what formulate said, but I think it needs to be looked at in the context of the info we just got. I think we need to shoot GGG. I think we are dealing with a powerful mafia person with him, not a townie.

He can't be lynched. He can't be nightkilled by the serial killer. He can't be poisoned by a member of the Light used during the night. He STRONGLY pushed for our vig to use his kill on GP_Matt. The vig kill might have been the only way to take him out (pretty sure I said this before). We have another vig like kill and I think if we don't use it on GGG, we will have no way of stopping him if he is scum.

He's going to be the hardest to prove to be town because if we lynch, we don't get a flip if the lynch proof kicks in. He appears unable to be night killed. He's twice been tried to be killed and twice it's bounced off him, once towards a member of the Light that killed him. How the hell do you redirect death off you twice? Especially when formulate would have given no signs of having GGG as a target?
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:09 PM   #2992
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If Wood and Drury want me to rewind I will.

Rathji we can't hammer until 10 tonight anyway, so no worry about a quick lynch.
thanks, always forget about that part
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:10 PM   #2993
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I have been pushing GGG in front of the tracks since I entered the game, but for none of the above reasons.

Of course, I have seen my name on recent lists and would much prefer GGG go!
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:10 PM   #2994
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I should say, I'm mostly okay with the rewind. I have some concern about the consequences as we don't know what they are, but I also think we have a good chance at putting the scum down by 2 so I'm okay with taking the less cautious route.
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:14 PM   #2995
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Can I be selfish and impose a deadline at 3:30 for the rewind? I would rather do it while at work on the computer and not on my phone.
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:16 PM   #2996
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I'm okay with the rewind but I want to put someone up for Wood's consideration.

No shocker prior to what formulate said, but I think it needs to be looked at in the context of the info we just got. I think we need to shoot GGG. I think we are dealing with a powerful mafia person with him, not a townie.

He can't be lynched. He can't be nightkilled by the serial killer. He can't be poisoned by a member of the Light used during the night. He STRONGLY pushed for our vig to use his kill on GP_Matt. The vig kill might have been the only way to take him out (pretty sure I said this before). We have another vig like kill and I think if we don't use it on GGG, we will have no way of stopping him if he is scum.

He's going to be the hardest to prove to be town because if we lynch, we don't get a flip if the lynch proof kicks in. He appears unable to be night killed. He's twice been tried to be killed and twice it's bounced off him, once towards a member of the Light that killed him. How the hell do you redirect death off you twice? Especially when formulate would have given no signs of having GGG as a target?
Check with Rathji but I think his day kill invite said it would not work on guardians. If the eternal invite comes in before we rewind then I support killing me with that, letting me flip, prove me town and rewind.

I don't understand why the night kills have failed on me. But note they failed for different reasons. One was redirected, the other failed. No one who has disclosed a power yet has said they can redirect anything but we have had several instances of redirection occur.

I can assure you that I am not immune to night or day kills. I would prefer to be lynched to prove my claim is true and rely on Mazrim not making an unwinable game to prove I am town.
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:18 PM   #2997
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Yeah, I believe Rathji said he can't use the kill on another Guardian.
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:26 PM   #2998
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Check with Rathji but I think his day kill invite said it would not work on guardians. If the eternal invite comes in before we rewind then I support killing me with that, letting me flip, prove me town and rewind.

I don't understand why the night kills have failed on me. But note they failed for different reasons. One was redirected, the other failed. No one who has disclosed a power yet has said they can redirect anything but we have had several instances of redirection occur.

I can assure you that I am not immune to night or day kills. I would prefer to be lynched to prove my claim is true and rely on Mazrim not making an unwinable game to prove I am town.
I'm not sure how lynching you would prove town. If Mazrim just ends the day with no one getting killed, it doesn't really prove you are town. Just that you didn't die because of that lynch.

GP_Matt didn't say he was unlynchable indefinitely. Just one time, right?

Personally would rather avoid your lynch altogether until we have to but I think you're town.

Rathji did you check with Mazrim to see if Guardians are immuned? The invites have been shown to lie before (the no revealing stuff at the begining).
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:29 PM   #2999
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I think its a good idea to rewind. I'd use the one shot on either squiggs, girly or Aeneas
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Old 10-17-2014, 02:29 PM   #3000
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Rewind it is...Is everyone ready?
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