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Displaced Flames fan · 07-23-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Gozer

I believe Gates acting like a jackass (including 'playing the race card') while the officer was trying to identify him has been accepted as fact.

So basically, you would like me to edit my post and say "I believe" rather than "I'm guessing"?

Really?

jolinar of malkshor · 07-23-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

So basically, you would like me to edit my post and say "I believe" rather than "I'm guessing"?

Really?

Hey, that is how he has been all thread. Very annoying and providing very little to the thread other than picking his nose and attacking meaningless points within a post.

ADD: I will say that in some post nose picker has made some good points but in most IMO have been nothing more than picking fights.

Rerun · 07-23-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Hey, that is how he has been all thread. Very annoying and providing very little to the thread other than picking his nose and attacking meaningless points within a post.

ADD: I will say that in some post nose picker has made some good points but in most IMO have been nothing more than picking fights.

Damn nose pickers! Always out to cause trouble.

valo403 · 07-23-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Uh...where did I say you were defending Gates at every turn???? Some are!

Sorry, thought you were directing that at me.

I'm firmly on the fence on this one, as uncomfortable as it may be.

valo403 · 07-23-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Fine, but your post saying it is easy to do behind a keyboard suggests that you think it is not easy to do and thus support GATES for what he did.

Displaced Flames fan · 07-23-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by valo403

Sorry, thought you were directing that at me.

I'm firmly on the fence on this one, as uncomfortable as it may be.

I'm Swiss as well.

Azure · 07-23-2009, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Sure, I'll agree with that. But the burden of responsibility here is not on Gates to "shut the hell up." If he has an opinion, he has a right to express it, regardless of how much a police officer may not like hearing it.

If he committed a crime before dozens of witnesses, then why wasn't he charged? No-one seems to want to address that. Unless.... he didn't commit a crime, a fact that would be confirmed by the dozens of witnesses who were present.

The easiest way for this to become a non-issue would be for there to be solid evidentiary ground upon which Gates could be charged with disorderly conduct. If you have that, there's no issue, no public relations fiasco, nothing. So... why aren't they doing that?

Yeah, like the police were going to charge Gates with anything after the President goes on national TV and calls the actions of the police 'stupid'...and says the incident was racially motivated.

Displaced Flames fan · 07-23-2009, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Azure

Yeah, like the police were going to charge Gates with anything after the President goes on national TV and calls the actions of the police 'stupid'...and says the incident was racially motivated.

It has not been a good week for President Obama.

Azure · 07-23-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by troutman

We don't know if those are the facts. That is the police report.

Except there is no reason for the officer to completely make any of this crap up.

I have a hard time believing Gates wasn't lying considering he is an arrogant , plus he was playing the race card from the start.

Azure · 07-23-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

It has not been a good week for President Obama.

Okay. Lets agree that the police probably shouldn't have arrested Gates.

Are their actions still stupid? Racially motivated? No. Therefore Obama is a moron.

Sorry, I just didn't see 'Obama is a moron' for 5 pages now, and felt the need to point that out again just in case everyone had forgotten about the fact that Obama is a moron.

valo403 · 07-23-2009, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Azure

Except there is no reason for the officer to completely make any of this crap up.

I have a hard time believing Gates wasn't lying considering he is an arrogant , plus he was playing the race card from the start.

There's plenty of reason for the officer to fabricate. You've just decided that it is not possibly the case and turned a blind eye towards it. It's still there though, I bet if you look behind that wall you've built you'll find it.

I'm not saying that he did or didn't fabricate, but you're going way FOX News on this. The cop is without a doubt telling the truth 100%, and Gates is obviously lying because he's arrogant. You've come to these two concrete conclusions based on what? What you've read on the internet?

Zarathustra · 07-23-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Azure

Okay. Lets agree that the police probably shouldn't have arrested Gates.

Are their actions still stupid? Racially motivated? No. Therefore Obama is a moron.

Sorry, I just didn't see 'Obama is a moron' for 5 pages now, and felt the need to point that out again just in case everyone had forgotten about the fact that Obama is a moron.

Barack Obama: Columbia grad, Harvard law school grad. Leader of the free world. Became president of the United States with a decisive victory before the age of 50.

Azure: Infamous poster on CP, known throughout the world for his insight and brilliance.

I vote to replace Obama with azure. We need somebody with smrts in the whitehouse!

Azure · 07-23-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by valo403

There's plenty of reason for the officer to fabricate. You've just decided that it is not possibly the case and turned a blind eye towards it. It's still there though, I bet if you look behind that wall you've built you'll find it.

I'm not saying that he did or didn't fabricate, but you're going way FOX News on this. The cop is without a doubt telling the truth 100%, and Gates is obviously lying because he's arrogant. You've come to these two concrete conclusions based on what? What you've read on the internet?

There were a ton of witnesses though, including his partner. If he lied, he would be toast.

Azure · 07-23-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zarathustra

Barack Obama: Columbia grad, Harvard law school grad. Leader of the free world. Became president of the United States with a decisive victory before the age of 50.

Azure: Infamous poster on CP, known throughout the world for his insight and brilliance.

I vote to replace Obama with azure. We need somebody with smrts in the whitehouse!

Smart and whitehouse don't exactly jive.

Its been like 200 years since there has been someone smart in the Whitehouse.

VladtheImpaler · 07-23-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zarathustra

Barack Obama: Columbia grad, Harvard law school grad. Leader of the free world. Became president of the United States with a decisive victory before the age of 50.

Azure: Infamous poster on CP, known throughout the world for his insight and brilliance.

I vote to replace Obama with azure. We need somebody with smrts in the whitehouse!

There are plenty of morons with multiple degrees. I sometimes act like an idiot and I probably have as many as Obama does.

Zarathustra · 07-23-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

There are plenty of morons with multiple degrees. I sometimes act like an idiot and I probably have as many as Obama does.

Totally. Getting into those Ivy league schools is so easy, especially for some poor kid from Hawaii who lived most of his life without parents. I hear being president of the Harvard Law Review is the easiest position in the country to achieve. In fact I'm applying right now in case my Japan vacation falls through. :P

cal_guy · 07-23-2009, 07:18 PM

Here's a good article about Henry Louis Gates Jr.'s rights.

http://www.slate.com/id/2223379/

It appears that the officer failed to provide ID as well when he was asked by Gates so it does appear that the officer himself broke the law.

VladtheImpaler · 07-23-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Zarathustra

Totally. Getting into those Ivy league schools is so easy, especially for some poor kid from Hawaii who lived most of his life without parents. I hear being president of the Harvard Law Review is the easiest position in the country to achieve. In fact I'm applying right now in case my Japan vacation falls through. :P

One can be a moron and have a distinguished Ivy League resume. Moron in the sense of doing or saying something stupid, as opposed to being a drooler with an IQ of 80. Very smart people can be stupid, if you know what I am saying. This is not the first for Obama - recall him calling for a lynch mob for the AIG executives for receiving their retention bonuses. That's two clear examples of him ignoring or being ignorant of the facts, but using his bully pulpit (the greatest in the world) to incite populist hatred. In fact what Obama has shown so far in his tenure is that he is a panderer - I suppose that is not so much "moronic" as it is "scummy", so if you insist I will not refer to him as a moron in this context, but as a scumbag...

valo403 · 07-23-2009, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Azure

There were a ton of witnesses though, including his partner. If he lied, he would be toast.

Ah yes, because cops vouching for each others skewed stories is completely unheard of.

VladtheImpaler · 07-23-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by valo403

Ah yes, because cops vouching for each others skewed stories is completely unheard of.

Except why would a Hispanic (or black) cop back up a racist?