Christofascists seeking to seize our country

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Sliver

The bible isn't all bad. Check out my new sig.

Solid

I'm partial to

Ezekiel 23:19-20 New International Version

Yet she increased her prostitution, remembering the days of her youth when she engaged in prostitution in the land of Egypt. She lusted after their genitals as large as those of donkeys, and their seminal emission was as strong as that of stallions.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Sliver

To accept that, though, you have to buy the BS that a monotheistic god can take three forms. That's logically impossible and I don't accept it. If the Christian god is one god in three forms it cannot be the god of Islam because that god only has one form.

If Jesus is the son of God, then they aren't the same thing, obvs. It's just such a joke to pretend that isn't stupid AF.

I do appreciate your post about the pope saying they're the same god. I'm not saying anything negative about the context you're providing and I appreciate what you're saying as accepted by many in the various denominations of Christianity. I'm just saying it makes no sense and is beyond stupid.

Look man, I've been a non-believing atheist since I was about 13 or 14 (I'm 44 now). I'm not posting these things because I personally believe them, only that this is the historical context of the three Abrahamic religions. Whether it's logical or not, Jews, Christians, and Muslims all derive their religious faith from the same common mythical entity.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Solid

I'm partial to

Haha, that one is great.

I also like this one from Deuteronomy:

If you see a beautiful woman among the captives and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. Bring her into your home, where she must shave her head and cut her nails and change the clothes she was wearing when you captured her.

Such a lovely little religion. Glad there are a whole bunch of schools in Calgary worshipping the words in this book.

[you&me]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Solid

I'm partial to

I think you need to follow Sliver's lead here...

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Look man, I've been a non-believing atheist since I was about 13 or 14 (I'm 44 now). I'm not posting these things because I personally believe them, only that this is the historical context of the three Abrahamic religions. Whether it's logical or not, Jews, Christians, and Muslims all derive their religious faith from the same common mythical entity.

Yes, I realize that. I'm saying that just because a Christian says it's the same god doesn't make it true. The Christian god has two distinct gods (Jesus & God) (plus throw in the other wack-a-doodle one to make three), while the Islamic god does not. I'm just disputing the claim that they're the same god. I know they say it is, but then when you dig a tiny bit deeper you see that their claim is BS.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Yes, I realize that. I'm saying that just because a Christian says it's the same god doesn't make it true. The Christian god has two distinct gods (Jesus & God) (plus throw in the other wack-a-doodle one to make three), while the Islamic god does not. I'm just disputing the claim that they're the same god. I know they say it is, but then when you dig a tiny bit deeper you see that their claim is BS.

like most religions.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Sliver

The bible isn't all bad. Check out my new sig.

That one really spoke to you, eh?

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

That one really spoke to you, eh?

Yeah, it really did tick a lot of my boxes.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by Sliver

The Christian god has two distinct gods (Jesus & God) (plus throw in the other wack-a-doodle one to make three)

That's precisely the opposite of what Christians believe, though. In Christianity, there is only one god which has three different forms. That's one of the absolutely most fundamental tenets of the Christian faith -- that the Trinity is all one being. Christians absolutely do not believe in two (or three) distinct gods.

[undercoverbrother]

Let's clear this up for ya Sliver



There you go simple

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

That's precisely the opposite of what Christians believe, though. In Christianity, there is only one god which has three different forms. That's one of the absolutely most fundamental tenets of the Christian faith -- that the Trinity is all one being. Christians absolutely do not believe in two (or three) distinct gods.

Again, I realize that's what they say, but I dispute that as being a possible reality. A son isn't the same as the dad. It's stupid and there's nothing that says I have to believe them when they claim black is white.

You don't get to call yourself monotheistic and also have three gods because you say 3 = 1 in this one special case because your club says so.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Again, I realize that's what they say, but I dispute that as being a possible reality. A son isn't the same as the dad. It's stupid and there's nothing that says I have to believe them when they claim black is white.

You don't get to call yourself monotheistic and also have three gods because you say 3 = 1 in this one special case because your club says so.

Yeah but I don't think you can take logic to someone else's fantasy. You may as well say bushes can't actually talk and therefore Moses is a proven liar as a result. Religion doesn't stand up to analysis.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Sliver

bahahahaha. Don't forget to Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy, dorks.

Oh yeah, and You shall not murder. Good thing that's going up in classrooms. I totally would have murdered somebody if it wasn't for that excellent reminder.

And all you Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist kids? Never forget, You shall have no other gods before Me.

Good lord, what fricken millennium are we living in? It's just so batsht. You truly have to be indoctrinated into this nonsense to not see it for what it is. Just pure goofball nonsense.

Let's not forget there are exceptions to the 10 commandments.

You shall have no other gods before Me.
Except for our movie, TV, or rock stars... and Trump

You shall not make idols.
See the first exception

You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
Unless angry, scared, excited, happy or it just slips out... or singing Barret's Privateers

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Except during Football season

Honor your father and your mother.
Except if they're annoying and/or you can put them in a home

You shall not murder.
Except if they're a minority, or near you or your property

You shall not commit adultery.
Except if you have the opportunity

You shall not steal.
Except if it's disguised as a business or you think you can get away with it

You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor
Excepr if the tea is juicy, or it helps.you, or it's funny

You shall not covet.
Except if you want it

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

like most all religions.

Fixed

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Fixed

I don't know all roughly 3000 religions.

I mean there must be at least 1

right........

[#-3]

As far as I know the Abrahamic religions are fundamentally polytheist, they just don't know it. I think it's been speculated that in the earliest Jewish traditions Yahweh vs Elohim would have been seen as distinct characters, which is why capital g god comes off as bi-polar in their writings, one was the tough parent with harsh expectations and one was the kind loving parent with unconditional love.

It's also likely that they Generally believed that their god was their god, and other peoples gods were other peoples gods, and the movement towards rejecting the other gods started as a pissing match, that probably took generations and went something like this; "My god can beat up your god", "Yeah well my god can see everything", "Yeah well my god knows everything that has happened", "Yeah well my god knows everything that will happen", "Yeah well my god made everything", "Yeah well your god isn't even real".

In most traditions angels would basically be considered deities, when you look at the description of what an angel is and does through modern eyes, it really isn't all that different from what the Greeks would have claimed their gods did.

And finally the image of an immortal and ever lasting afterlife, is basically and mass-exercise in extending the self deifications of the Roman emperors. People invented gods as idle figures who would not have to face death, but that wasn't enough the quell the fundamental fear we all of have of death, so they had to start believing they could someday be one of those figures too.

So when a Christian tells you there is only 1 god, it's an example of them not even knowing the background of their own philosophy.

[D as in David]

Christianity's God has tripolar disorder.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Solid

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That should be up in classroom walls.

[Barnet Flame]

Louisiana ranks 47th of the 50 US states in respect of education.

There is a good chance a lot of their kids will avoid getting brainwashed via illiteracy.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

Louisiana ranks 47th of the 50 US states in respect of education.

There is a good chance a lot of their kids will avoid getting brainwashed via illiteracy.

I'm not overly worried about the Children of Louisiana becoming future leaders of the nation.