the ongoing anti- racism, anti- oppression thread

[ynwa03]

Originally Posted by icecube

Clearly some people seem absolutely invested in keeping the narrative of systemic racism framed as historical or keeping the conversation about racism solely about individual acts of intolerance.

Guess what, racism can be about individual acts of intolerance and also, very rarely, in certain situations, especially in a society like ours, systemic.
It is not always systemic, and not always an individual act.

[snootchiebootchies]

Another ugly racist incident, another public flogging.

https://twitter.com/user/status/996725747711541249

[icecube]

Originally Posted by ynwa03

Guess what, racism can be solely about individual acts of intolerance and also, very rarely, in certain situation, especially in a society like ours, systemic.
It is not always systemic, and not always an individual act.

No. Not very rarely. Very far from very rarely. Cripes.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Lchoy

Not an expert by no means, but the linear trend line would suggest things are rather stable than rising or falling. You can plot the numbers on Excel and have it generate the trend line to see for yourselves too.

LChoy

Slight decline. But my point was that it wasn't a steady increasing line.

Also, if we were to also aggregate for factors such as the increasing diverse population of Canada (more potential people to be targets of hate crimes), this would also cause the numbers to show an even more downward trend.

I also didn't mean my comment as a serious interpretation of the data - I mean 4 years and 2 years for hate crimes against Muslims, to try to draw real conclusions from that sample size is just silly.

[RichKlit]

Originally Posted by icecube

What would a rational talk look like from your perspective?

Using your words and not an article would be a good start.

[2Stonedbirds]

Originally Posted by troutman

Why a far-right militia tried to set up addiction recovery homes in Edmonton

'Those people are going to be very, very susceptible to recruitment.'


http://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/episode...nton-1.4655637

Militia groups, military drilling practices are highly, highly illegal. They won't be operating as anything other than a "group of buddies" without a severe beat down from the RCMP.

[ynwa03]

Originally Posted by icecube

No. Not very rarely. Very far from very rarely. Cripes.

Ok, so instead of posting ridiculous pictures and copy and pasting entire articles, why don’t you expand on what you’re saying, in your own words.

In relation to a lot of places, Canada’s problem with any systemic racism is very minimal. In my opinion, racism in Canada is very much something that exists with the individual, rather than the structure for the most part. Yes, there are exceptions, but as I mentioned, they are rare and very much the exception and not the rule. I’d like to hear your opinion.

[vanisleflamesfan]

Canadian tennis player Francoise Abanda says she will never get the same recognition as Eugenie Bouchard because she is black.

Linky

True? False?

Abanda is currently ranked 128
Bouchard is currently ranked 133 but was ranked as high as 5 at one point.

[snootchiebootchies]

I can believe this. I believe that before her drug test scandal, Maria Sharapova was making more from endorsement deals than Serena Williams.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by vanisleflamesfan

Canadian tennis player Francoise Abanda says she will never get the same recognition as Eugenie Bouchard because she is black.

Linky

True? False?

Abanda is currently ranked 128
Bouchard is currently ranked 133 but was ranked as high as 5 at one point.

Maybe. Its hard to say without Abanda having that big run. Even though she is the highest ranked Canadian currently she hasn't had a break out tourney yet.

Not to mention Bouchard going the instagram/modeling way instead of focusing on practicing helped raise her profile - but tanked her tennis game.

[Makarov]

Abanda is pretty easy on the eyes. I'm surprised she isn't getting more recognition/endorsement opportunities. Just needs more time or success? Or she doesn't fit the "mould" that advertisers look for? Hard to say.

[CaramonLS]

Link

Mount Saint Vincent University under fire over residential schools course taught by white professor

HALIFAX - A Nova Scotia university is under fire for assigning a course about Canada's residential schools to a non-Indigenous professor, something activists say undermines reconciliation efforts.
...
Yet the decision to assign a "settler scholar" to teach the course has been slammed on social media as a kind of historical appropriation and reinforcement of the systemic oppression of First Nations.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Makarov

Abanda is pretty easy on the eyes. I'm surprised she isn't getting more recognition/endorsement opportunities. Just needs more time or success? Or she doesn't fit the "mould" that advertisers look for? Hard to say.

Link

Probably has to do with success. I don't think I've heard of Carol Zhou or Peter Polansky either, all around the same rank.

I don't remember anyone talking about Canadian Tennis in general, unless they actually won a tournament or had a really good showing.

[Rubicant]

Originally Posted by vanisleflamesfan

Canadian tennis player Francoise Abanda says she will never get the same recognition as Eugenie Bouchard because she is black.

Linky

True? False?

Abanda is currently ranked 128
Bouchard is currently ranked 133 but was ranked as high as 5 at one point.

I dunno. Maybe?

The only reason Bouchard had a high profile for a while was when she made the finals at one of the majors (Wimbledon?).

Very close to winning a major as a Canadian and attractive? That buys you some profile that lasts longer than she likely deserved given how her game totally tanked.

If abanda does similarly well and doesn’t get the profile as well, there’s definitely a case. There are so many potential factors that can be at play here (including potential racism) but it’s hard to attribute it to one over all others.

[Makarov]

I agree with both those takes. Sounds reasonable.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by icecube

Articles forever until it starts clicking for people.

If this is an anti-racism thread, shouldn't there be solutions and not just problems?

[blankall]

Originally Posted by snootchiebootchies

I can believe this. I believe that before her drug test scandal, Maria Sharapova was making more from endorsement deals than Serena Williams.

Not to discount the issue of race, but a lot of that probably had to do with looks. Unfortunately, for even accomplished women, their looks play a huge role in how much recognition they get.

[81MC]

Sex sells. Always has, always will.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by blankall

Not to discount the issue of race, but a lot of that probably had to do with looks. Unfortunately, for even accomplished women, their looks play a huge role in how much recognition they get.

Assessments of relative beauty also have a lot do with race. It would be extremely difficult to control for beauty in race-neutral manner.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by snootchiebootchies

Another ugly racist incident, another public flogging.

https://twitter.com/user/status/996725747711541249

apparently the irony is he is an attorney and the website for his law office offers services in Spanish