View Poll Results: Should the Flames consider bringing Iggy back?
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12-12-2016, 09:28 PM
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#301
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Flames are going to have a tough time fitting in one of them in their salary structure let alone both.
The point of the question is to see how many would take Iginla but not Sharp. Kind of gauge how much nostalgia is driving people.
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12-12-2016, 09:32 PM
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#302
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Which center to play with Iginla? needs to be defensively responsible, able to score on his own if Iginla draws defenders to him, and should also have PIM's to help "spark" the PIM generating version of Iginla. I vote Bennett. Drop Ferland or Tkachuk on the left side and have a ghostly version of the SIN or MCI lines.
However considering where the team is at, and the ask price, there would probably be a Reto Berra like trade imbalance in the Flames favor to entertain the offer. Which isn't likely considering the player, even weighing his current precipice like fall of offense.
But I would love to see an Encore of Iggy.
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12-12-2016, 09:33 PM
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#303
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
This makes no sense. Iginla was Pittsburgh's second-best player after being traded there,
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This is why the Flames management had such a hard time trading him...because this is what people believe. I'm not sure what people were seeing...
Last edited by MacFlame; 12-12-2016 at 09:35 PM.
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12-12-2016, 09:38 PM
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#304
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First round-bust
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Originally Posted by MacFlame
This is why the Flames management had such a hard time trading him...because this is what people believe. I'm not sure what people were seeing...
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But it's true! Back in his half season in 2012-13, Iginla put up 23 points in 28 games with the Penguins, despite being utilized most often at left wing or on the left point on the powerplay. Iginla was a really effective player in Pittsburgh, and with Malkin, Neal, and Crosby all injured down the stretch that season, he was probably their best player.
I'm not sure why FlamesFan68 brought Iggy's Pittsburgh stint up when the Iggy of today and the Iggy of 2013 are such different players. However, the fact of the matter is that Iginla was a fantastic player with the Penguins (and with Boston, for that matter).
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Last edited by TheScorpion; 12-12-2016 at 10:16 PM.
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12-12-2016, 09:41 PM
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#305
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
But it was true! Back in his half season in 2012-13, Iginla put up 23 points in 28 games with the Penguins, despite being utilized most often at right wing or on the left point on the powerplay. Iginla was a really effective player in Pittsburgh, and with Malkin, Neal, and Crosby all injured down the stretch that season, he was probably their best player.
I'm not sure why FlamesFan68 brought Iggy's Pittsburgh stint up when the Iggy of today and the Iggy of 2013 are such different players. However, the fact of the matter is that Iginla was a fantastic player with the Penguins (and with Boston, for that matter).
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I'm just going to disagree. I didn't see it that way at all. I've been through enough of these arguments about Iggy over the years to know that I'll never change your mind (which is okay). Carry on!
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12-12-2016, 09:47 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
This makes no sense. Iginla was Pittsburgh's second-best player after being traded there, despite playing his entire tenure on the left wing(!?).
And what does that second sentence even mean?
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He was demoted to Pittsburgh's 3rd line by the time the playoffs came around, then it was a quick exit. He then went to Boston which was a better fit for Iggy, there were more 2 way players to make up for Iggy's bad defense. Iggy didn't like it there either, so off to Colorado?
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12-12-2016, 09:55 PM
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First Line Centre
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I'm more curious to Bingo's reason to his opinion than anything else in this thread.
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12-12-2016, 09:56 PM
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#308
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FlamesFan68
He was demoted to Pittsburgh's 3rd line by the time the playoffs came around, then it was a quick exit. He then went to Boston which was a better fit for Iggy, there were more 2 way players to make up for Iggy's bad defense. Iggy didn't like it there either, so off to Colorado?
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Wow! Some wacky revisionist history going on here!
First of all, the Penguins actually made it to the Eastern Conference Final and Iggy went 12 points in 15 playoff games.
The lines were Kunitz - Crosby - Dupuis, and Iginla - Malkin - Neal.
Also, Iggy did like it there. He probably would've stayed. But the Bruins couldn't keep him due to cap issues.
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12-12-2016, 10:10 PM
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#309
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Franchise Player
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Oh come on . Facts are for fools ! Random statements are for the Internet !
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12-12-2016, 10:14 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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I think Iginla the player can help us. Iginla the personality probably not. I bought in a long time ago he deserves credit for two things in Calgary. Being a huge factor in that amazing 2004 run, and everything after including the many years of "I can be better, the team can be better" sound bites and they dysfunctional room.
Hard to separate the man from the myth sometimes. Iginla is a human being which seems so weird and given to write but I think it gets glazed over. He is a skilled player, but there is so much more in sports.
Put me down as a strong no and I like the guy. No offense, but that ship has sailed. I watched Iginla pot 30 goals the last time in Calgary and I will take what I saw in person Saturday to that any day of the week. That team looked dangerous, and heck of a lot of fun to watch. They need to play without any slowness or apprehension.
Hope Iggy goes to the Blackhawks or Canadians wins and calls it a day. He deserves it.
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12-12-2016, 10:21 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by OldDutch
Hope Iggy goes to the Blackhawks or Canadians wins and calls it a day. He deserves it.
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I'd sooner hope he goes to the Flames and he wins....
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12-12-2016, 10:25 PM
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#312
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Sign him to a 1 day contract the day he retires and that's about it.
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12-12-2016, 10:27 PM
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#313
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First Line Centre
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Location: Fort Collins, CO
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Going to watch him play against the Leafs next Thursday at the Can. I will give you my opinion after I have seen him play at this stage of a long career.
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12-12-2016, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gaskal
Wow! Some wacky revisionist history going on here!
First of all, the Penguins actually made it to the Eastern Conference Final and Iggy went 12 points in 15 playoff games.
The lines were Kunitz - Crosby - Dupuis, and Iginla - Malkin - Neal.
Also, Iggy did like it there. He probably would've stayed. But the Bruins couldn't keep him due to cap issues.
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At the end of the season, Pittsburgh was not happy with Iggy, he was on 3rd line. If they went to conference final they obviously didn't think it was because of Iggy or they would have signed him to another year. They cut him loose after giving up a 1st rounder and a prospect to get him.
If I remember correctly Boston was unhappy to see Iggy go and tried to work a contract out, but wasn't willing to blow up the team to do it.
Colorado obviously had the most cap space to satisfy Iggy and his families future. I'm guessing but wasn't that the year Colorado had that Cinderella season just before Iggy went there? They've been mediocre since he got there.
Last edited by FlamesFan68; 12-12-2016 at 10:45 PM.
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12-12-2016, 10:43 PM
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#315
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Originally Posted by Cole436
I'm more curious to Bingo's reason to his opinion than anything else in this thread.
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What, vague insinuations not enough for you?
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12-12-2016, 10:44 PM
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#316
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I don't think Iginla is a fit on this team. Moreover, I don't think that's the kind of move Treliving would do.
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12-12-2016, 10:47 PM
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#317
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FlamesFan68
At the end of the season, Pittsburgh was not happy with Iggy, he was on 3rd line. If they went to conference final they obviously didn't think it was because of Iggy or they would have signed him to another year. They cut him loose after giving up a 1st rounder and a prospect to get him.
If I remember correctly Boston was unhappy to see Iggy go and tried to work a contract out, but wasn't willing to blow up the team to do it.
Colorado obviously had the most cap space to satisfy Iggy and his families future.
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Pitt didn't want to pay him the $6M he was able to get from Boston where he scored 30 goals and 60pts. The Avs offered him 3 years at $5.3 with a NMC. Apparently the Islanders offered him 4 years and the Lightning offered him a deal as well but he liked the situation in Denver for his family.
If this is truly his last kick at a cup and he is retiring this summer then I can see him choosing between 5 or so teams to see which are interested. NYR, Habs, Kings, Flames, Blackhawks
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12-12-2016, 10:52 PM
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#318
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
I don't think Iginla is a fit on this team. Moreover, I don't think that's the kind of move Treliving would do.
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BT is pretty ruthless in pursuing what he thinks this team needs to win it all. I'm not sure what a geezer like Iggy does to help. He could have taken crap money to win a cup in Chicago, but took a pay date with the Avs. So not sure he is as driven as people think to win a cup - or he just has bad judgement.
I could see Iggy back Theo style for a pre-season PTO stint to wrap up his career as a Flame. But right now he'd have a hard time keeping up with Stajan on the 4th line. And I doubt he would be a better wrecking ball than Hathaway.
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12-12-2016, 10:58 PM
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#319
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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If Iginla or his reps reached out to Edwards he could theoretical trump Treliving and tell him to make a deal. Unlikely but the Flames held onto Iggy far too long and the thought of winning with him could be too much warm and fuzzies to resist?
If the cost is more than a 3rd rounder at the deadline then I don't see a deal happening but if Iggy could be had for dirt cheap then I say go for it
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12-12-2016, 11:00 PM
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#320
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Powerplay Quarterback
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No thanks. Didn't like his effort level the last few years he was here. Don't think he is what's needed on a young team. Not a fit and hardly a difference maker for the playoffs / Tree can do better if he wants to add for a playoff run.
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