View Poll Results: Should the Flames consider bringing Iggy back?
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Yup
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Nope
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12-12-2016, 07:35 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
Iginla coming home and winning the Stanley Cup is a storybook ending.
Those of you voting no, I just don't know why or when you lost that romantic touch to your fandom. Perhaps it's just the way things are these days. We're all too busy looking at contract status, being conservative for the future of our team, over/undervaluing a player based on a stat line, declining or not...perhaps there's just no room for a bit of romanticized fandom in what has become modern fandom. I'm very much the same, but not when it comes to Iggy. It would be too great of a story.
...Iggy wearing the Flaming C and raising the cup would be absolutely beautiful. I'd cry tears of joy.
Voted yes, and I sincerely hope it happens.
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Great job. It sums up my feelings exactly. I don't care if he has slowed down, I don't care what his metrics or analytics would say, I don't care if it would be a distraction.
You're absolutely correct, sometimes we're a little too pragmatic as fans. I love this hockey team and I love that player. I can't help but get caught up in the thought of how unbelievable it would be to hear just one time, "Calgary Flames goal scored by number 12 Jarooooooooommmmmme Iginla! assisted by number 13 Johnny Gaudreau!!!! and number 23 Sean Monahan!!!!
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12-12-2016, 07:37 PM
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#282
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Retired
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I'd suggest that we all do a favor and listen to Bingo. The guy has more insider knowledge than almost every other poster on the board and if he is saying no for reasons other than his hockey ability - stay far, far away.
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12-12-2016, 07:37 PM
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#283
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I could've easily slid the Iginla line to be the third line or even the fourth. My point was that an Iginla acquisition would enable this team to have four rollable lines.
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we already have 4 rollable lines. Why solve a problem we don't have?
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12-12-2016, 07:42 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by CaramonLS
I'm not sure what games you watched, but Iginla cherry picking and flying the zone early was one of the staples of Flames hockey for years, post-D.Sutter. He was not a good two way player and was never on the same page with the coaches.
He wanted to score goals and that came above all else.
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This is patently false. Not sure why people are saying this now and hardly anyone was saying it at the time.
Iginla wasn't a Selke finalist but he definitely wasn't as bad as people are making him out to be and for sure not worse than many other 50 goal scorers.
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12-12-2016, 07:42 PM
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Franchise Player
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Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by goodyear
Iginla for Wideman?
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Like I said before, can't happen. Wideman is not waiving his NMC to go to Colorado.
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12-12-2016, 07:44 PM
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#286
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
For the people who said yes, please don't think of Iginla of old, one of the greatest of all time, think of what he actually has brought this year and that's pretty much nothing. Watch an Avs game and tell me with a straight face you think he can add anything to this team.
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Not sure viewings of him on a listless Avs team would provide much insight as to how he'd look elsewhere. I'm pretty sure that entire Avalanche team has mailed it in. Their captain is on IR. With him out, Duchene and MacKinnon are the only ones on that entire team who can provide consistent offence.
They're already out, and trying to out-tank Arizona for last place right now. Their -26 goal differential is good for dead last in the entire league. It's a fair margin now due to the Montreal beating.
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12-12-2016, 07:47 PM
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#287
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
This is patently false. Not sure why people are saying this now and hardly anyone was saying it at the time.
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It was a big topic on this forum - as in his last few years as a Flame, Iginla was one of the worst defensive forwards on the team. Moreover, he free lanced a ton, not buying into the system.
This isn't some new thing.
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12-12-2016, 07:49 PM
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Franchise Player
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Racki
Great job. It sums up my feelings exactly. I don't care if he has slowed down, I don't care what his metrics or analytics would say, I don't care if it would be a distraction.
You're absolutely correct, sometimes we're a little too pragmatic as fans. I love this hockey team and I love that player. I can't help but get caught up in the thought of how unbelievable it would be to hear just one time, "Calgary Flames goal scored by number 12 Jarooooooooommmmmme Iginla! assisted by number 13 Johnny Gaudreau!!!! and number 23 Sean Monahan!!!!
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I get this sentiment, and I would love to see him win here, but it's not happening. I didn't vote no because I lost my "romantic touch". I love the Flames more than I love Iginla. No one is voting no because we're evil and heartless, we're voting no because it's what's best for the team.
Everybody loves Iggy, but I would imagine most people love the Flames more.
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12-12-2016, 07:57 PM
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Scoring Winger
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When Iginla left Calgary he was tied for 3rd on team scoring, behind Lee Stempniak and Alex Tanguay and the Flames were in an absolute tailspin. He had 9 goals and 13 assists in 31 games that year. They hadn't made the playoffs in 3 straight years.
One season after the Flames traded him and shed the rest (or at least a significant portion of) of the aging core, the Flames made the payoffs (2015), something they hadn't done since 2009.
Even after a successful 2015 campaign, I would still run into people who wished the Flames had never traded him. I guess, if anything, it shows how much he was loved in this City, a feeling that I have no doubt was reciprocated.
However, in my mind, he was a part of "that" core. A core that, depending on what you believe, either vastly underachieved, or was continuously sold to the fanbase as having a realistic chance at playoff success.
In either case, I just can't go back there.
Iginla is now averaging 15 minutes of ice time on one of the worst teams in the league and has 7 points in 27 games.
Sentimental reasons is the only reason, imo, as to why anyone could argue to have him back with the Flames this year. I'd rather see the Flames win.
Last edited by MacFlame; 12-12-2016 at 08:08 PM.
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12-12-2016, 08:36 PM
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#290
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I'd rather have Byron back than Iggy.
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12-12-2016, 08:36 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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I would trade Shinkaruk + a 5th + Smid for Iggy at the deadline. Pretty low risk trade; almost no risk involved, since both a 5th round pick and Shunkaruk have a negligible chance of making the flames
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12-12-2016, 08:45 PM
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#292
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
I would trade Shinkaruk + a 5th + Smid for Iggy at the deadline. Pretty low risk trade; almost no risk involved, since both a 5th round pick and Shunkaruk have a negligible chance of making the flames
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Way too much of a distraction...... let him sign for 15 min at the end of the season, and retire a flame.
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12-12-2016, 08:47 PM
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#293
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
I would trade Shinkaruk + a 5th + Smid for Iggy at the deadline. Pretty low risk trade; almost no risk involved, since both a 5th round pick and Shunkaruk have a negligible chance of making the flames
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Shunkaruk 100% won't have a chance of making the Flames, but on the other hand, Shinkaruk is a different story.
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12-12-2016, 08:59 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Out of curiosity, for those saying they want Iginla, are you also open to Patrick Sharp?
Assume both players have similar acquisition costs
Sharp shoots R and can play LW/RW. He has 3 cup rings, an Olympic gold medal and 8 20+ goal seasons of which he scored 30+ goals 4 times.
He has a slightly larger cap hit than Iginla, analytics suggest he is a far better 2 way player, but is less durable and gritty than Iginla. Both are the same height, though Iginla has about 15 lbs on Sharp. Sharp is about 5 years younger.
Both players are UFA after this season.
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12-12-2016, 09:02 PM
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#295
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Franchise Player
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Only if he can get over his injuries and pull himself together before the deadline. To reach mid-December with 1–1–2 in 11 GP, for a player of Sharp's pedigree and cap hit, is beyond brutal.
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12-12-2016, 09:07 PM
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Commie Referee
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Out of curiosity, for those saying they want Iginla, are you also open to Patrick Sharp?
Assume both players have similar acquisition costs
Sharp shoots R and can play LW/RW. He has 3 cup rings, an Olympic gold medal and 8 20+ goal seasons of which he scored 30+ goals 4 times.
He has a slightly larger cap hit than Iginla, analytics suggest he is a far better 2 way player, but is less durable and gritty than Iginla. Both are the same height, though Iginla has about 15 lbs on Sharp. Sharp is about 5 years younger.
Both players are UFA after this season.
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I don't want either. I'd take Sharp but now he's dealing with concussion issues. Doesn't look great for him moving forward.
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12-12-2016, 09:13 PM
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First round-bust
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If Iginla is too old, Sharp is also too old.
Iginla coming back would be heavily based on sentimentality, IMO. If not him, go for someone 30 or younger.
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12-12-2016, 09:15 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Out of curiosity, for those saying they want Iginla, are you also open to Patrick Sharp?
Assume both players have similar acquisition costs
Sharp shoots R and can play LW/RW. He has 3 cup rings, an Olympic gold medal and 8 20+ goal seasons of which he scored 30+ goals 4 times.
He has a slightly larger cap hit than Iginla, analytics suggest he is a far better 2 way player, but is less durable and gritty than Iginla. Both are the same height, though Iginla has about 15 lbs on Sharp. Sharp is about 5 years younger.
Both players are UFA after this season.
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If we are going all in on this fantasy we'll need depth.
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12-12-2016, 09:16 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by GullFoss
I would trade Shinkaruk + a 5th + Smid for Iggy at the deadline. Pretty low risk trade; almost no risk involved, since both a 5th round pick and Shunkaruk have a negligible chance of making the flames
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Waaaaaaayyyyyyyy! Too much favoring the Avalanche. They'd jump at that. Pittsburgh had no use for Iggy. As long as he comes in knowing he adopts the Flames system and we don't adjust to him. Still, there is no way I'd bring Iggy back except for a 1 day contract at the end of his last year as a ceremony and he can retire as a Flame.
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12-12-2016, 09:20 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
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Originally Posted by FlamesFan68
Pittsburgh had no use for Iggy. As long as he comes in knowing he adopts the Flames system and we don't adjust to him.
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This makes no sense. Iginla was Pittsburgh's second-best player after being traded there, despite playing his entire tenure on the left wing(!?).
And what does that second sentence even mean?
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