The Documentary Thread

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Watched the puff daddy documentary on Netflix, Sean Combs The Reckoning. Overall it was a pretty good overview of what happened not only during the recent court case, but his rise into the entertainment mainstream. Good to see them dig deep into his role in the deaths of both Tupac and Biggie which I think most people who were into 90s gangsta rap knew he was involved but never had a true deep dive into it.

Dude is the ultimate piece of #### and looks like he's grooming his son to be the same as his future heir.

I had a really hard time with this one. Primarily because I dont really care about puff daddy although he seems like a real POS and, frankly, because it displays how he manipulates people to largely get away with it.

All of those crimes and in the end he gets something like 50 months less time served? Seems a tad light in regards to the nature of the crimes themselves and then the victims have to worry that in a few years he'll be out and probably gunning for revenge...like a crazy person.

Also, the whole 'Rapper/Gangster' culture seems pretty silly to me. I understand that they had hard lives, but then they became successful...why continue with these constant beefs and carrying guns around and doing insane drugs and drugging other people and shooting other rappers or bystanders in clubs and such.

I have a hard time with that. It was a well done Documentary but it just seems unsatisfying in the end.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Locke

I had a really hard time with this one. Primarily because I dont really care about puff daddy although he seems like a real POS and, frankly, because it displays how he manipulates people to largely get away with it.

All of those crimes and in the end he gets something like 50 months less time served? Seems a tad light in regards to the nature of the crimes themselves and then the victims have to worry that in a few years he'll be out and probably gunning for revenge...like a crazy person.

Also, the whole 'Rapper/Gangster' culture seems pretty silly to me. I understand that they had hard lives, but then they became successful...why continue with these constant beefs and carrying guns around and doing insane drugs and drugging other people and shooting other rappers or bystanders in clubs and such.

I have a hard time with that. It was a well done Documentary but it just seems unsatisfying in the end.

Well, you had one of the jurors justify domestic abuse with the good ole' "why did she keep going back", and both of them not believing a kidnap victim because she was too emotional.

If you're a victim a trial by a jury of your peers seems like one of the most terrifying aspects of the justice system.

[The Fonz]

I didn’t know much of this history with Diddy, perhaps a bit young (1987 born).

What a ####ing loser scumbag.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Well, you had one of the jurors justify domestic abuse with the good ole' "why did she keep going back", and both of them not believing a kidnap victim because she was too emotional.

If you're a victim a trial by a jury of your peers seems like one of the most terrifying aspects of the justice system.

I do find it interesting. Both Epstein and Diddy have both been described initially as 'irresistibly charming.'

Thats not something I can easily understand, I see people that are trying to get you to do what they want for their benefit and I immediately want nothing to do with them, but apparently there is this charismatic power, which I dont get.

He was obviously a scumbag and a user who would just as soon step on your face as look at you...why would you do this person any favours to your own detriment? He seemed to somehow engender the belief that if you were ever in a tough spot he'd come to your rescue despite a veritable mountain of evidence that he absolutely would not.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by Locke

He was obviously a scumbag and a user who would just as soon step on your face as look at you...why would you do this person any favours to your own detriment?

The power dynamic isn’t really that complicated, is it?

Diddy, Epstein, Weinstein, all the way down to Graham James.

It’s never “suck my dick for gain or leave unharmed” with these types. Most would leave in that situation. Rather, it’s always “suck my dick or I’ll ruin your life”.