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Old 02-13-2014, 10:05 AM   #301
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Springs1 should become a server. She could probably clear 100k in tips alone!
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Springs1 should become a server. She could probably clear 100k in tips alone!
I don't know. The internet might be overrun with blog posts about how stupid customers are who ask for extra ranch dressing and don't tip properly.
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Much like Nye vs. Ham, the intent is not to change the other's view, but to influence the mind of the outside viewer, methinks.
I'm sorry. I thought I've been clear on that. Right down to making the exact same analogy, referencing Thank you For Smoking, and stating that the primary purpose is for the reader and not Springs1 (although it would be a nice benefit).

And I enjoy the banter, it's fun
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it blows my mind that someone can feel so passionately about such a stupid topic like food service.....springs1 must spend all of her waking time trolling the net and entering her responses, even if she is constantly cutting and pasting them from some dtabase she likely has on each dining expereince she has ever had.

springs do us all a favour and direct your energies toward helping the poor or furthering humanity in some fashion, and FFS, please quit visiting resturants as you are clearly enver happy with some part of your dining expereince......stay home and cook you'll save money, be healthier and live longer
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She takes at run at the religious peoples as well, sadly they had no interest and banned her, much like pre-marital sex, they don't know what they are missing.

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum...banned-32.html
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Not sure if serious or greatest troll of all time.

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This whole thing just turned into a big TLDR
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I have never figured out what that means
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Well that makes all these threads make a while lot more sense
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I have never figured out what that means
It's a 'teal deer' aka "too long, didn't read."
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Sorry do you believe that anyone other than the collective nutcase that is Springs1 is onboard with those posts?
Not at all, but that still doesn't mean that I'm not learning and gaining interesting insight from the answers others give. Particularly btimbit and Maritime Q-Scout. I doubt that I'm the only one.

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Sorry do you believe that anyone other than the collective nutcase that is Springs1 is onboard with those posts?
I'm sure there's a few that find some of the answers a little informative and/or interesting. At the very least, it's entertaining
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I know in protest of this thread that I specifically going to wait tables on Valentines and not pay attention to any of my customers and their special orders in protest.
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WTF! Springs1 is back?? We need the CP main splash page to alert us of these things!
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Wait. What?

Kind of a TLDR kind of question but am I to understand that springs1 is actually ON calgary puck? As in REAL live posting here?

Whoah.
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Additionally in my experience most servers write down their orders. That seems to be the same for most here as well. How can out experiences be so different if you are correct in most servers not writing down orders. I can't think of the last time a server didn't write down my order.
Yes, we preach this and most other restaurants I've been with (at least the good ones) have as well. Write. the. order. down. Period. Every damn time. No exceptions. Even if it's simple like an Caesar salad and a water, it should get written down just in case you get busy with something else and forget. The amount of mistakes avoided by doing this one simple thing is huge.

Part of the "5 R's" of serving. Romance (the menu) Rapport (with the guests), Review (the order), wRite (it the #### down).... and 1 other one I can't remember I let my partner worry about server stuff.

The point is, at any decent restaurant stuff like this should rarely happen. I know you, Springs1, mentioned that you've found service isn't better at fancier restaurants. Yet at the same time, how can you expect amazing service at the friggin' Red Lobster? Or Boston Pizza? It's going to be fine most of the time, but it's never going to be exceptional. I'm not going to go to a McDonalds and expect a person working their to give me extra napkins without me asking for them just because I ordered extra ketchup and it may be messy. That worker isn't going to notice or care. The quality of service you receive is generally going to reflect on the quality of restaurant you're at.

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If you believe bad service is common practice I can see why. If a server takes any initiative they are ordering you around, if they don't they're lazy.
She reminds me of a friends ex girlfriend. She would always have some issue with someone screwing with her. Be it someone denting her car by getting mad and hitting it, or keying it, or egging her house, stuff like that. Always something. And her response would always be "Why me? I have such bad luck this bad stuff keeps happening!"

Sure, some of it is bad luck, but most of it is partly karma, and partly retaliatory because you're a bitch. If bad stuff is constantly happening to you, or in this case if you're constantly having bad service, at what point do you take a look in the mirror and realize you might be the problem?

No, you being a bitch doesn't suddenly make it ok for a server to be bitchy back to you, that should absolutely never happen to a customer under any circumstances. But at the same time, how can you complain about a human acting human? Especially when it seems to always happen with you?

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Where is your time being wasted? Your net result is exactly the same.
I can't believe I have to explain this, but I will:

Let's say my server asks me if I need a refill of dr. pepper, I tell them "Can I get a coke instead?" They say "sure" and I say "thank you." So they go to get it and come back with it.

Doing it your way the server went to the soda station or kitchen to grab a glass, put some ice in it, and then put some liquid in it. Then had to make it to my table from the kitchen area or soda station when they were let's say closer to my table before they went all the way over there(yes this has happened I watched a server do it once). They come with the refill and I tell them "Can I get a coke instead." Their response should be "sorry", because that time it took to GO to the soda station or kitchen, Grab a glass to get some ice and dr. pepper only to have to throw it out and even let's say the syrup is out for that and no one at my table ordered that, so that would be wasting more time, but let's just say for argument sake that the syrup is not out, well it's still takes TIME TO FILL UP A GLASS WITH ICE AND DRINK. IT STILL TAKES TIME TO GO TO THE SODA STATION OR KITCHEN AND BACK, especially if they were around my area already. DUMPING IT OUT TAKES TIME AS WELL!

The Red Lobster waiter could have had my refill to me faster if he would have came to ask me. Probably an extra minute at least or if he has to change the syrup or go a far from where my table was would have wasted more than a minute even.

I can't believe you don't understand this???? REALLY? I cannot believe that someone has to actually *EXPLAIN* this to you? Every SECOND COUNTS, EVERY SECOND COUNTS!

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A number of servers don't write down orders. Pay attention for example like when let's say you order even something like a bar drink or dessert or order your first round of 2 cokes or waters, most servers aren't writing down drink orders. I would say that's even MORE of a commonplace that most don't write down drink orders. Most wing it per say with that. They feel they can remember a coke and an iced tea for example. Maybe if you are in a large party. What party amount are you in? I recently went with my parents and my husband the waitress didn't write ANYTHING down, got my husband's side dish wrong and put in the wrong temp for the burger. 4 people. Now I am amazed she did remember all of what we ordered, because there was a lot of modifications and food we ordered. That being said, I'd rather have someone that wrote it down than someone that didn't try. Do you go to any chain restaurants for example?

Also, you say "orders down", but I am also referring to *ALL* request. I am so sick of my bag getting forgotten or a box, because they were too lazy to write the LIST down. I ask for like 4-7 things at the end of my meal normally. For example, "I would like a box, the check, a bag, 2 containers for my ranches, and a to-go coke. 6 items total. The average server, in fact 99.9999% of servers would NEVER write down a list like that. They are too lazy to.

Also, at times we have ordered a dessert in that mix of request. That's 7 items not being written down when they leave my table they could get called over for other things for other tables as well. Even if they aren't called over, that's at least for me personally, very hard to remember 7 things at once. I would have to write it down.

At Corky's bbq for example, I asked a waiter during mid-meal more bread, extra napkins, and a refill on my soft drink. He forgot the napkins. That's only 3 things. Most servers don't write that down. More bread is an order btw. That's ordering food, even if it's free food, it's still an order for food.

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Lastly, what is your ratio of good service to bad service? We've all had bad service. But most people don't focus on it, not to the extent that you are. Which leads me to the conclusion that you receiving bad service is common practice.
There's another one called decent service where it's not good, but not really bad either like 12%-15% range type of tip they'd get. I start at 20%, it can go up or down depending on the service. 25% usually is my norm for excellent service, but I do tip higher like 30% at times even if I have had exceptionally excellent service that went beyond my expectations.

Bad service would be not trying their best. Bad service would be not being nice about a mistake by not apologizing. Bad service would be not caring.

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I have had 4 servers ask me "You might have to remind me" when I ordered a bunch of condiments. That's pretty lazy. I did go off on one waitress at Applebee's though when she said that. It was only like 2 ranches and 1 side of extra pico de gallo. That's it, it wasn't like I was asking for 7 things or something. I mean wow. The first time I had someone say that was at Denny's. So when I had ordered 3 syrups and 2 butters for the grand slam, he's like "You might have to remind me" as he was going to decide not to write all of that since he was lazy. I asked him just like this "Why would I have to remind you if you write it down?" He had nothing to say then. The Applebee's waitress didn't want to write down the condiments/pico part. So when she said "You might have to remind me" I said "This isn't McDonald's that you are getting a tip. You compare your written order with the food, component A check, component B check, etc. You can bring them out ahead of time as well if you'd like." That's basically somewhat what I had said. I can't remember exactly, but I did say the McDonald's bit. So she got it right, but gave her 8% and reported her to a manager for being so rude and RIDICULOUS. I am not the server here. That's ridiculous. If I have to remind the server, then what kind of tip do they think they are going to get to do it on purpose not to try to remember what I said, huh? The other times I was with a group of people, so I couldn't say anything to mess with other people's outings, like one was after a funeral, so yeah, I couldn't just say anything to her, I had to just suck it up, but I did report what she said to the manager there. It just pisses me off that servers are like that out there. I mean if you don't want to work, WHY are you a server? That's what I want to ask them.

I have bad service a lot, because most servers don't try their best. They just don't. Most don't make sure what they are handing you is correct as far as what things they can control.
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