11-13-2011, 07:37 PM
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#301
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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It's a little early to write off McNeil. In his defence he plays for a last place team though I'm happy with the Bartschi pick.
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11-13-2011, 08:41 PM
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#302
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Reinhart - 1 goal, even in a 2-1 loss
Leach - 1 assist, even in a 2-1 loss
Elson - 1 assist, -1 in a 4-3 shoot out loss
Only three Flames prospects playing in the WHL tonight.
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11-13-2011, 10:25 PM
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#303
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I'd be happy if couple of all these high scoring junior players turned to be top 6 forwards on the Flames.
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11-14-2011, 05:41 AM
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#305
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Jarome Iginla for Ty Rattie, Chris Stewart and a 1st round pick.....
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11-14-2011, 02:31 PM
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#307
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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The Flames seem to LOVE Carter Bancks. He and Bouma play a very up-tempo two-way checking game and they are valuable components of their teams. However, the influx of experienced, established AHL forwards has moved them off the scoring lines a bit.
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11-14-2011, 02:44 PM
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#308
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Abbotsford, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freeway
The Flames seem to LOVE Carter Bancks. He and Bouma play a very up-tempo two-way checking game and they are valuable components of their teams. However, the influx of experienced, established AHL forwards has moved them off the scoring lines a bit.
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Right, but Bouma doesn't really deserve top-6 time. He's never been big point-getter at the WHL level.
What I see Troy doing though, is playing Bouma, Armstrong, Bancks, Patterson, etc. quite a bit to motivate the team and shift momentum.
Their roles on this team are clear and I think will translate quite well to the NHL if given the chance. We know what Bouma can do at the NHL level. He can do just as well as TK. I think if Bancks starts putting up the points and can stay healthy, he'll get a serious look next season at being a bottom-6 player with the Flames.
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11-14-2011, 03:05 PM
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#309
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire
Right, but Bouma doesn't really deserve top-6 time. He's never been big point-getter at the WHL level.
What I see Troy doing though, is playing Bouma, Armstrong, Bancks, Patterson, etc. quite a bit to motivate the team and shift momentum.
Their roles on this team are clear and I think will translate quite well to the NHL if given the chance. We know what Bouma can do at the NHL level. He can do just as well as TK. I think if Bancks starts putting up the points and can stay healthy, he'll get a serious look next season at being a bottom-6 player with the Flames.
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And on that vein, Justin Dowling is my pick for the team's next Carter Bancks. He's doing pretty well in Utah (11 points in 12 games) and is among the league scoring leaders for rookies.
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11-14-2011, 04:44 PM
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#310
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
Jarome Iginla for Ty Rattie, Chris Stewart and a 1st round pick.....
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Why the green text?
If the Flames could get that, it would be a great return for Iginla
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11-14-2011, 07:01 PM
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#311
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boogerz
Why the green text?
If the Flames could get that, it would be a great return for Iginla
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Probably because it's in the same vein as " Iginla for Crosby".
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11-15-2011, 10:48 AM
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#312
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With an off day in the WHL today, I thought I'd do a quick summary of our WHL prospects.
7 total
4 forwards
2 defensemen
1 goalie
F - Michael Ferland - 5th round, 133rd overall, 2010 - 4th in WHL scoring
22 games - 15g - 21a - 36p
F - Sven Bartschi - 1st round, 13th overall, 2011 - 9th in WHL scoring
13 games - 7g - 23a - 30p (Ranked first in points per game with 2.31)
F - Max Reinart - 3rd round, 64th overall, 2010 - 24th in WHL scoring
19 games - 9g - 13a - 22p
F - Patrick Holland - 7th round, 193rd overall, 2010 - 33rd in WHL scoring
20 games - 4g - 17a - 21p
D - Joey Leach - 3rd round 73rd overall, 2010 - 14th in WHL among defensemen
21 games - 4g - 11a - 15p
D - Tyler Wotherspoon - 2nd round, 57th overall, 2011 - 44th among defensemen
17 games - 3g - 5a - 8p
G - Laurent Brossoit - 6th round, 164th overall, 2011
19 games
10-7-1 (4-way tie for 7th in wins)
2.50 GAA (10th ranked)
0.913 save % (11th ranked)
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11-15-2011, 11:24 AM
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#313
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Vancouver
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You are missing one
LW - Turner Elson Signed Undrafted September 22nd, 2011 - 30th in WHL scoring
19 games - 11g - 10a - 21p
“Turner Elson was a player we had on our draft List at this past summer’s Draft; however, with only five selections in the seven rounds we were not able to land him at that time,” said Flames General Manager Jay Feaster. “Having him come to rookie camp and then participate in main camp and play a pre-season game enabled our entire hockey operations department to evaluate him as a player and get to know him as a person. There was no question that we wanted to add him to our organization and we are thrilled to have him under contract. He thinks the game very well and displays what we consider to be very good hockey sense. He also competes hard every shift and is responsible in all three zones. We look forward to monitoring his progress this year in the WHL.”
http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=589454
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11-15-2011, 11:41 AM
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#314
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Hahaha. I knew I forgot one.
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11-15-2011, 11:45 AM
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#315
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Five WHL forward prospects scoring on a point per game basis ... impressive  again, who said we had no prospects?
Seriously though, I am happy that the guys are doing fine. Baertschi seems to be a beast out there, I'd be really surprised if this wasn't his last junior season. And the 2010 draft looks extremely good. I expected good things from Reinhart and Holland after their 2010-11 season, but Ferland is really shocking me. Didn't see this kind of production in him. Same goes for Elson - for an undrafted forward, he seems to do very fine.
Really looking forward to have Reinhart, Holland, Ferland and Leach in Abbotsford next year
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11-15-2011, 11:48 AM
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#316
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reinhart appears to have really quiet down. I read an article stating that he really ought to be doing better if he wants to show he can be an offensive player in the NHL, especially considering his age in the league.
Is that an unfair assessment?
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11-15-2011, 12:01 PM
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#317
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Originally Posted by bubbsy
reinhart appears to have really quiet down. I read an article stating that he really ought to be doing better if he wants to show he can be an offensive player in the NHL, especially considering his age in the league.
Is that an unfair assessment?
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want to share the article?
Basically, Reinhart is scoring at the same pace as last year. He had 34+45 for 79 points in 71 games last year - his current numbers would translate to 34+48 for 82 points over the same amount of games. Surely an improvement would be great ... on the other hand, Reinhart is more of a two-way-forward than a pure scorer, if I remember correctly.
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11-15-2011, 12:05 PM
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#318
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
reinhart appears to have really quiet down. I read an article stating that he really ought to be doing better if he wants to show he can be an offensive player in the NHL, especially considering his age in the league.
Is that an unfair assessment?
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I think so. The Ice are a pretty defensive team and are seem to try and sneak out low goal differential wins. Reinhart is very much the offensive heart of the team and him, combined with overage goalie Lieuwen, are basically their keys to winning game in and game out. It's pretty forgivable if they don't put up all-star scoring numbers this year, as their offensive depth basically consists of Reinhart and Ismond. Had they more depth like they did last year, his numbers would be better. However, they lost some key pieces to graduation (Their loss of a stud D, McNabb, seems to have really hurt them...Leach is good and all, but he hasn't been as dominant as McNabb yet)
I think Reinhart is just find where he is right now and is setting up for a good 2/3 C job in the NHL.
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11-15-2011, 12:12 PM
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#319
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
reinhart appears to have really quiet down. I read an article stating that he really ought to be doing better if he wants to show he can be an offensive player in the NHL, especially considering his age in the league.
Is that an unfair assessment?
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Watch him in the Super Series and decide for yourself. It's tomorrow I think. WHL vs Russia.
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11-15-2011, 12:15 PM
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#320
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thymebalm
Watch him in the Super Series and decide for yourself. It's tomorrow I think. WHL vs Russia.
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yeah, the games are tomorrow and on Thursday. Reinhart is playing both games, while Ferland and Holland will only play the second one.
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