The Legend of Sam Bennett

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

It was Gilbert/Savard all over again.

Or is it Martin St. Louis?

[Sandman]

The good news is that we got a pretty decent prospect back in Emil Heineman.

[djsFlames]

Top two threads are Bennett and Fire Treliving.

Boy what a fun place to be lately.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Why would you not find it fun to see a good guy having success?

[The Boy Wonder]

I’ve taken a long break from this place.

Shocker, Benny actually good, and to think we had multiple coaches put Mony on the top line instead of giving Benny a single chance.

And before you say “He HaS tO eArN it” guess what.. he is and does in Florida

Best of luck to the flames resigning Johnny and chucky once they hear how much better it can be.


MOD EDIT: Removed inappropriate language.

[Iggy Snipe]

Sam Bennett is a very talented and hard working player. He plays with an edge, but has playmaking and scoring abilities.

In his time in Calgary, he was buried in the bottom 6 and was never given any sustained opportunity to play with good players.

Its funny how things change. Monahan is now a 4th line player, who is literally useless, and Bennett is flourishing with Florida. I know Monahan has had injuries, but the guy is not an NHL player anymore. He can't play at this level, it is so evident in his skating. Unless I am missing something, the Flames will likely be considering a buy out for him this off season.

Bennett was always one of the only Calgary Flames players who played with heart, and they traded him. Of course he wanted out in the end, as he didn't want to waste another year of his 'productive years' playing 10 minutes a night and being told to hit everything in sight and be a grinder.

Sam can play any style of hockey, which is what makes him so special. He is not an 'Elite' player, but he is a top 6 player who makes any team better. Players like Bennett are hard to find, and are good in the playoffs (we all know that). He won't take a game over, but he elevates with good players around him, and he is flourishing right now. He has the ability to finish, and he is pound for pound one of the toughest guys.

I could not be happier for Bennett. He is playing on a great team, lives in Florida, making good money that the Flames were never going to give him.

I guess he gets the last laugh, but I was rattled when the Flames moved him, and I am still upset about it because Calgary did not handle this properly.

[Barnet Flame]

The only way the Flames are buying out Monahan is if the City pay for it.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Hiring Darryl Sutter makes this a factually incorrect statement. It is literally Brad's good move that offsets a lot of bad moves (not all but a lot).

Don't disagree that the Flames need a new GM though.

If we want to keep believing that was actually Treliving's decision to make.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I don’t think that was an either/or situation (keep Bennett instead of Monahan). They’re unrelated. Plus Monahan hasn’t really been the problem in the POs you make him out to be, not compared to a whole lot of other players.

Sure it is, good management who are paid handsomely to forecast would’ve made the right decision. This management group didn’t do that, they were reactionary instead of proactive and they’ve reacted so late that there’s a strong likelihood that they’ll have to buyout Sean Monahan or at the very least retain millions on his deal which is not good for a team that has to re-sign Gaudreau, Monahan, Mangiapane and Kylington whilst trying to improve their depth. Had they moved Monahan at the appropriate time, not only would that have freed up $6.3M, but it would have opened up a center spot for Sam Bennett.

Also, here’s a stat that I’ve mentioned to you before. Monahan has a lifetime, 3 goals and 1 assist in 30 games at 5 on 5 in the playoffs. If your #1 center has 4 points at 5 on 5 in the playoffs, then no wonder why this team has constantly flamed out in the first round. He’s been more of a powerplay specialist in the playoffs just like he is now and management should’ve seen this.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Sure it is, good management who are paid handsomely to forecast would’ve made the right decision. This management group didn’t do that, they were reactionary instead of proactive and they’ve reacted so late that there’s a strong likelihood that they’ll have to buyout Sean Monahan or at the very least retain millions on his deal which is not good for a team that has to re-sign Gaudreau, Monahan, Mangiapane and Kylington whilst trying to improve their depth. Had they moved Monahan at the appropriate time, not only would that have freed up $6.3M, but it would have opened up a center spot for Sam Bennett.

Also, here’s a stat that I’ve mentioned to you before. Monahan has a lifetime, 3 goals and 1 assist in 30 games at 5 on 5 in the playoffs. If your #1 center has 4 points at 5 on 5 in the playoffs, then no wonder why this team has constantly flamed out in the first round. He’s been more of a powerplay specialist in the playoffs just like he is now and management should’ve seen this.

Not true.

Sean has 4 goals and 4 assists at 5v 5 in 30 games, in the playoffs.

Johnny has 3 goals and 3 assists at 5v5 in 30 games, in the playoffs.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

I’ve taken a long break from this place.

Shocker, Benny actually good, and to think we had multiple coaches put Mony on the top line instead of giving Benny a single chance.

And before you say “He HaS tO eArN it” guess what.. he is and does in Florida

Best of luck to the flames resigning Johnny and chucky once they hear how much better it can be.


MOD EDIT: Removed inappropriate language.

time for another break

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by timbit

Not true.

Sean has 4 goals and 4 assists at 5v 5 in 30 games, in the playoffs.

Johnny has 3 goals and 3 assists at 5v5 in 30 games, in the playoffs.

5 on 5 doesn’t mean the same as even strength. Even strength could be 4 on 4 or 3 on 3.

Semantics aside, the stats are not good regardless. 5 on 5 and the center ice position is absolutely paramount in the playoffs due to the tight checking and lack of space in the neutral zone. You need a good center who can drive his line’s play up the middle and Monahan has failed at that.

I know a lot of people think injuries are the source of his struggles, but I don’t believe that for a second. He’s never been fast or mobile and his goal scoring ability was always overrated. The lack of dimensions to his play and inability to produce offense outside of the rush has always been his biggest problems and its lead to his lack of productivity outside of the powerplay this season.

Elias Lindholm and yes, even Sam Bennett are different kinds of centerman. They don’t rely on just rush chances which goes away in the playoffs. These two can check effectively for their offense and I suspect, Gaudreau will be much more effective this year’s playoffs without Monahan dragging him down, assuming we actually make the playoffs which remains to be seen.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Joborule

If we want to keep believing that was actually Treliving's decision to make.

That is fair. I actually think ownership told him to hire Sutter. At this point it almost does not matter. I have felt that Treliving should be fired basically since the Hamonic trade. I am pretty sure there is a litany of posts that would confirm that. I think we are stuck with him.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Sam Bennett was arguably their best player in the playoffs. The next year they told him Derek Ryan beat him out for the center job even before the season started.

What would you do if you are Bennett?

Don't think a Flames fan would be using the word "their" and they to describe their own team.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by 442scotty View Post
Bennett flourishing when playing with quality line mates. Are you learning anything from this Treliving?? Naaaa. Doubt it.

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05 View Post
Have Pitlick and Ritchie playing with Johnny?

Originally Posted by codynw

Don’t give them any ideas.

Flamesfan05 liked the post. So are you and Flamesfan05 actually Flames fans or just trolling the forum?

[AC]

Originally Posted by timbit

Not true.

Sean has 4 goals and 4 assists at 5v 5 in 30 games, in the playoffs.

And if you remove empty net goals and assists? 3G, 2A.

With one of those assists coming 4 on 4 as Classic_Sniper alluded to.

[Manhattanboy]

Mismanagement of Bennett situation definitely on top ten list of franchise all time blunders.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by AC

And if you remove empty net goals and assists? 3G, 2A.

With one of those assists coming 4 on 4 as Classic_Sniper alluded to.

Yes you’re correct.

Using your criteria, Johnny with 2G 2A in the same 30 games.

[AC]

Yup, not going to win many playoff games with those even strength stat lines.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Mismanagement of Bennett situation definitely on top ten list of franchise all time blunders.

not even close yet, it could get there