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Old 03-05-2026, 04:32 PM   #31021
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Who are the ones that keep assuring us that Conroy has full power and reign and ownership isn't a problem......
Every person well connected to the organization. That doesn't include Nik Kypreos who throws a lot of crap at the wall.
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Old 03-05-2026, 04:33 PM   #31022
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Yeah makes sense. Too old with too much term.
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Old 03-05-2026, 04:33 PM   #31023
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I listened to the Kypreos segment and it was loose speculation at best
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Old 03-05-2026, 04:33 PM   #31024
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They’re elaborating about it rn in 960
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Old 03-05-2026, 04:34 PM   #31025
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Many of us have said the retention spot for 3 years might be worth more than the offers...that is a different conversation
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Old 03-05-2026, 04:34 PM   #31026
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I actually don't think it's ownership that's the barrier there on the retention with Kadri - it's Conroy probably placing a very high value on retaining $7-$11M of real money on him.

My guess is Avs were offering 1st + prospect or something like that, and TBH it's not worth retaining that much and getting a mediocre return.
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Old 03-05-2026, 04:35 PM   #31027
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I'd wager that if ownership nixed a salary retained deal to Colorado it's because they didn't have the perceived value in assets to buy said salary retention.

Kadris potential trade is a very complex deal because you have to get something to placate ownerships eating of salary for the remainder of his contract, on another side you have to find a trading partner you don't have to ask Kadri to waive for and 3rd, teams won't give up premium assets for a 36 year old.
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Old 03-05-2026, 04:35 PM   #31028
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Old 03-05-2026, 04:35 PM   #31029
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Who are the ones that keep assuring us that Conroy has full power and reign and ownership isn't a problem......
Flames are already retaining on two players...will likely be 3 this time tomorrow
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Old 03-05-2026, 04:39 PM   #31031
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Obviously will be hard to quantify but I think the Stars will regret not pushing to get Coleman.
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I call bs. Kyper gets a lot wrong. I have heard from many sources including guys in the know like Steinberg that Conroy has full control over the team and all transactions including retaining money. Conroy doesn't have to go to ownership to get permission to retain money.
I agree. It’s hard to believe something like this would come completely out of the blue for ownership, or that Conroy wouldn’t already know how much salary retention Murray would allow. I suspect Conroy and his team have already presented Murray with different scenarios—showing the potential return based on varying levels of retained salary (e.g., if we retain X amount, we could expect a pick like Y).

Murray likely still holds veto power to say no or change course, but these options have probably been discussed before and he’s already indicated what he’s comfortable with. He also doesn’t seem particularly hesitant about carrying contracts, as shown by the other two spots on the books.
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I actually don't think it's ownership that's the barrier there on the retention with Kadri - it's Conroy probably placing a very high value on retaining $7-$11M of real money on him.

My guess is Avs were offering 1st + prospect or something like that, and TBH it's not worth retaining that much and getting a mediocre return.
That's exactly it, the Avs don't have the assets required to get the Flames to retain that kind of money over three years. Nothing to do with ownership. Like if the Avs wanted the Flames to retain 25% of that contract and had a prospect like Michael Misa to offer that's a different story. The other thing is the Avs needed a 3rd line C much more than a #2 with how well Nelson has played.
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I posted on Feb 26: "~$2.25 million is the ask on the Kadri retention."

I confirmed that March 4.

I don't believe that has changed as of this moment (as of Noon MST).
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I am not one to question insiders as I think it’s all interesting and fun
But I’ve never seen anything that would suggest Kyp has a clue about anything going on in Calgary
I can imagine the flames didn’t take the avs deal not because of ownership but because the offer simply wasn’t good enough for that amount of retention
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I can imagine the flames didn’t take the avs deal not because of ownership but because the offer simply wasn’t good enough for that amount of retention
I agree with this Jiri.
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Old 03-05-2026, 04:46 PM   #31037
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Come on, people, if Conroy didn't have complete autonomy, there's a 0% chance that Weegar would have been traded for futures only, or that out top two defensemen would have been traded with only Whitecloud coming back. Now our top two defensemen are players who most posters here considered to be throw-ins on the Markstrom and Andersson trades.

The issue is that there is only one retention slot left, and it won't be used unless it adds value to a trade, so that it can be used to add value to another trade instead.
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Old 03-05-2026, 04:47 PM   #31038
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I am not one to question insiders as I think it’s all interesting and fun
But I’ve never seen anything that would suggest Kyp has a clue about anything going on in Calgary
I can imagine the flames didn’t take the avs deal not because of ownership but because the offer simply wasn’t good enough for that amount of retention
I'm pretty sure Kyprios knows and cares nothing about the Flames.
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Old 03-05-2026, 04:48 PM   #31039
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Maybe Avs leaked the in info so they can say "hey, we tried"
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Old 03-05-2026, 04:49 PM   #31040
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Not out of the realm of possibility that ownership did actually nix the deal. Conroy may have general autonomy but this might just be a one-off where the ownership felt it was too much retention for too long.

It does actually line up with some insiders saying we don't want any retention on a Kadri deal.

Not super bummed about this. Colorado doesn't have great assets. Maybe the summer is better. Maybe more teams jump in and we're more willing to retain because there's less term on the contract.
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