[POLL] Calgary Flames coaching change mega-thread—with poll

[bax]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

The Chicago Blackhawks changed the game to speed and skill nearly 10 years ago, and won cups in 2010, 2013, and 2015.

Sutter's Kings won 2 cups in that period, in 2012 and 2014. Don't tell me he can't coach in today's fast-paced league.

I think Sutter is a great coach, but if Treliving ends up hiring him you can't honestly expect our roster- the way it is constructed now to play similar to the Kings did when they won the cup.

That team was full of big, nasty, heavy, 2 way guys that are hard to play against. Our roster just isn't put together that way. If Sutter is re-hired here he will need to bring some new elements to the table than what he had when he was with the Kings (which is possible).

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

I want my team to have that Sutter swagger back.

I just want them to have a swagger, period. The lack of mental toughness was a big problem this year, and watching them collapse like a cheap tent every time they got scored on was excruciating and embarrassing. We need to get this team back to that level of being tough to play against, especially at the Dome. When other teams see the Flames on their road schedule, I want them to say "oh s**t, that's gonna be a tough one."

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I wish that the 773 voters actually shared their opinions on here instead of voting and disappearing.

Nah, it's easier to read the posts and "thank" those you agree with.

[GranteedEV]

Here is the Flames vs Hurricanes minor penalty breakdown the last four seasons (1st means fewest penalties):

2014-15
CGY 2nd
CAR 1st

2015-16
CGY - 5th
CAR - 2nd

2016-17
CGY - 30th
CAR - 1st

2017-18
CGY - 28th
CAR - 1st

If ever there were a case for Bill Peters, that may be it.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Why was Eakins even part of the poll?

Originally Posted by zamler

Troll magnet.

It is a handy moderation tool.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Poison

I am absolutely floored by the amount of votes to bring Darryl back. The game has passed him by. Its speed and smaller guys ruling the game now. Unless you are thrilled with three lines of big, slow, third liner gritty types, dump and chase and cycling the puck hockey again.
In which case enjoy the darkness for another few years.
Loved the guy when the game was different but his system and hockey sense isnt for todays game.

Disagree. There's different ways to win. You can win by being small, fast and skilled. You can win by being big, strong and skilled. The skill part is important though.

Sutter didn't always win with big, strong, cycling teams though. Back in 03-04 our team was based on speed, and relentless forechecking pressure. We did have Chris Simon for some grit and net front presence and he did play a role but that team was not built the way LA was.

Perhaps you underestimate Sutter's ability to coach different sets of players to different strengths/weaknesses?

We do have one of the best in the league along the boards and in front of the net. Matt Tkachuk is born to play Sutter hockey.

I think Sutter is the best coach we've had in my time of following the Flames. I am fully on board with bringing him back if he's interested. Some reasons why I think he'd be a great fit. Darryl Sutter is
1. A leader of men
2. A motivator
3. A proven winner
4. Commands respect

It's clear that our team needs more leadership and motivation from the coaching position. Sutter whips guys into line without being a total ass about it.

I think he'd be a fantastic fit. I don't really understand those who think he's a dinosaur or that our roster doesn't fit him. I think that's underrating his ability by a large margin.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Poison

How many big slower power forward types do u know of now racking up the points?
Clutch and grab still prevelant?

Matt Tkachuk for one
Nope, clutch and grab hasn't been prevalent for years. Cycling has and will always be prevalent

[getbak]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Here is the Flames vs Hurricanes minor penalty breakdown the last four seasons (1st means fewest penalties):

2014-15
CGY 2nd
CAR 1st

2015-16
CGY - 5th
CAR - 2nd

2016-17
CGY - 30th
CAR - 1st

2017-18
CGY - 28th
CAR - 1st

If ever there were a case for Bill Peters, that may be it.

If there was ever a case against Dennis Wideman, that may be it.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Why was Eakins even part of the poll?

Originally Posted by zamler

Troll magnet.

The nest is here.

[Rollin22x]

Originally Posted by bax

I think Sutter is a great coach, but if Treliving ends up hiring him you can't honestly expect our roster- the way it is constructed now to play similar to the Kings did when they won the cup.

That team was full of big, nasty, heavy, 2 way guys that are hard to play against. Our roster just isn't put together that way. If Sutter is re-hired here he will need to bring some new elements to the table than what he had when he was with the Kings (which is possible).

Honest question...
Did Sutter build that team or did he work with what was given to him?
The Flames would not be trying to play a similar style game. They need a coach that can work with, what I believe is, a talented group and get the most out of them.
It's not about the style but more about identifying and utilizing player strengths. None of this... play nice and just make sure you execute the Xs and Os.

[Canuck-Hater]

Been listening to the Fan 960 today and I just find it extremely bizarre how much they are vouching for Bill Peters. I don't get it. Definitely cause for concern if this is the guy that Treliving wants to coach this team.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

Been listening to the Fan 960 today and I just find it extremely bizarre how much they are vouching for Bill Peters. I don't get it. Definitely cause for concern if this is the guy that Treliving wants to coach this team.

Would you mind providing a summary? I'm interested to hear what they have been saying.

[SuperMatt18]

Honestly I feel like Peters is already the guy and it's more about the game of chicken he appears to be playing with the new Carolina owner right now.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

Been listening to the Fan 960 today and I just find it extremely bizarre how much they are vouching for Bill Peters. I don't get it. Definitely cause for concern if this is the guy that Treliving wants to coach this team.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that these guys are asked to pump him onto the fans, if Treliving is, in fact, leaning towards hiring him.

[Canuck-Hater]

Originally Posted by bax

Would you mind providing a summary? I'm interested to hear what they have been saying.

Nothing new that we haven't heard before but to summarize:

-Good fit for the Flames
-CGY/DAL are supposedly the two teams interested

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

Definitely cause for concern if this is the guy that Treliving wants to coach this team.

Why's that?

I mean I'm not in Peters corner necessarily but why are people so deadset against him? Maybe he's the next great young coach? I'm surprised people would be so negative about him considering we don't have a lot of first hand information on him. Carolina doesn't play us very often.

I mean sure I'd prefer Sutter and perhaps another guy or two. But there's a chance Peters is an amazing coach. I'm not sure how any of us can rule that out at this time.

[kukkudo]

I still think Peters is the guy they want. Once he wraps up the Carolina stuff the Flames will scoop him up.

[dammage79]

I mean, every talking head they bring on to the fan keep repeating what they're hearing in their circles. That Peter's is the guy in Calgary. What else do they have to go with and talk about.

Haven't heard anything from them that has them with any other info stating they're hearing the same from their circles in the city.

I don't know, there's so much smoke with Peter's it's hard to see how any other coach is the guy.

We will see tomorrow I guess.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Canuck-Hater

Been listening to the Fan 960 today and I just find it extremely bizarre how much they are vouching for Bill Peters. I don't get it. Definitely cause for concern if this is the guy that Treliving wants to coach this team.

Those media guys are never going to be a dissenting opinion. I'm sure they were all praising the Gulutzan hire as well while most people were scratching their heads about it. The Flames could hire Emilio Estavez to coach the team and they'd go on about how great he was as coach of the Mighty Ducks and how astute Flames management is in their decision making.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Honestly, Peters would be a perfectly fine hire. He has experience with strong even strength teams with a talented blue line and difficulty scoring that are also plagued by inconsistent goaltending. He'll fit right in.