[Rumour] LeBrun: As of right now, sounds like Andersson only wants to sign extension with VGK

[schmaaadm]

Originally Posted by keenan87

This is quite hilarious. Bingo starts a hockey forum so Flames fans can have a discussion.

Flames fans get into discussion with different opinions = Bingo getting annoyed and painting posters as "whiners" and "impatient"

He’s not allowed to have an opinion because he started the forum?? Weird take.

I agree with him. Whining and complaining over hypothetical scenarios that haven’t happened is crazy lol

[Bubba17]

This thought has been on my mind since the whole Vegas/TO thing. If Toronto is willing to file tampering charges against Vegas for talking to their player before FA, shouldn't the skate be on the other foot in regards to Anderson/Agent?

If a team isn't allowed to tamper with another teams player, why should a player under contract be able to make statements (if that happened and wasn't made up by Lebrun) that they will only sign with Vegas. He is under contract now and should not be having FA discussions about any team that are at least one year out.

[D as in David]

The CBA change provides considerable leverage to Conroy; an 8-year deal vs. a 6-year deal should be a significant difference to both Andersson and Vegas; something that wasn't a factor at the time of Hanifin's trade. I'll assume that Conroy will not be rolling over with at his disposal. If Vegas wants to get him, go elsewhere to acquire something that Calgary will want by trading away something else that has value to another team. If Rasmus wants that 8-year deal, he will have to open up to other teams if Craig holds firm.

A few days of transactions starting tomorrow may make some other teams look more promising to Andersson.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Bubba17

This thought has been on my mind since the whole Vegas/TO thing. If Toronto is willing to file tampering charges against Vegas for talking to their player before FA, shouldn't the skate be on the other foot in regards to Anderson/Agent?

If a team isn't allowed to tamper with another teams player, why should a player under contract be able to make statements (if that happened and wasn't made up by Lebrun) that they will only sign with Vegas. He is under contract now and should not be having FA discussions about any team that are at least one year out.

Easier to defend as a player. Lebrun could know Andersson didn’t want to sign with whatever team that tried to trade for him and knew he would have said yes to Vegas. Andersson’s camp doesn’t need a say anything else

[ForeverFlameFan]

I know 3 ways don't happen, but it sure feels like a 3 way trade of Hertl/Andersson/Carolina (and Vegas) futures package makes a lot of sense.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Craig and Rasmus were on good terms going into the offseason, sounding like that's not the case anymore.

Yeahhhh this trade needs to get done ASAP. You can't bring this tension into the season

[dammage79]

Man, I don't know what offer L.A had on the table but if the word "Whopper" was included, I'm going to believe it was Byfield level. And if Razz not signing in L.A take a Byfield away from us, it's unforgivable . I'm mostly not serious but I'd be mega pissed if that was on the table and he didn't even talk to the Kings.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Yeahhhh this trade needs to get done ASAP. You can't bring this tension into the season

After all this smoke - I doubt they start the season with Andersson on the team at this point.

[Shazam]

Trade him to SJ.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by keenan87

After all this smoke - I doubt they start the season with Andersson on the team at this point.

I'm thinking by end of day today. There's zero competition in the FA market for that type of player. No reason teams can't offer their best today. Ekblads gone.

[Infinit47]

Anderson has trade protection, and he is allowed to use it.

The Flames only real recourse would be to sit him for the entire year. cant imagine they would do that, but players have been held out before based on contract disputes.

I think it all comes down to conversations between Anderson and Conroy. If Anderson said right from the get go he is a rental unless it's Vegas, then Conroy has no reason to be upset. If Anderson has said otherwise, and Conroy has acted on Anderson's statements, only to have the carpet pulled out from under him, then Conroy has a right to be pissed.

It's hard to imagine Conroy would negotiate a deal with LA if he knew Anderson would not even listen to their extension offer, but who really knows.

I believe the Flames will get more than a second round pick for him, which is what they used to draft him. If management can keep trading up in value for assets it's still a win. Can't always hit for a home run.

[cral12]

Would this return suffice?

Jakob Ihs-Wozniak, 2027 1st rnder, 2026 2nd rnder

^many had JIW as a potential 1st rnd pick in 2025 (Vegas snagged him in the 2nd)

[Strange Brew]

Next summer can he only sign a 6 year deal if it’s with a new team?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by cral12

Would this return suffice?

Jakob Ihs-Wozniak, 2027 1st rnder, 2026 2nd rnder

^many had JIW as a potential 1st rnd pick in 2025 (Vegas snagged him in the 2nd)

That’s about what I’m expecting

[442scotty]

On the assumption that there’s a little hanky panky going on, I’d park Anderson in the stands to munch popcorn before taking less than at least one first rounder. Vegas can wait until next July if they still want him.

[Bubba17]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Bit of both.
The writing on the wall is pretty clear, and I don't imagine Craig's too fond of being backed into a corner (again) and put in a Hanifin 2.0 scenario.

I don't think Conroy was backed into a corner. I think Treliving didn't do his due diligence, quit when his contract ran out and left Conroy holding the bag.

Conroy said at his first press conference that he wouldn't walk any player to free agency (Gaudreau and Tkachuk). He traded Hanifin/Zadorov/Lindholm instead of losing them for nothing. He moved Markstrom a year early (good move on his part) and now has Anderson coming to his last season. I think Anderson will be gone before training camp as Conroy knows that keeping anyone who doesn't want to be here is detrimental to the team.

[really?]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Craig and Rasmus were on good terms going into the offseason, sounding like that's not the case anymore.

While I don’t fault Andersson for excersing his rights, if a rift has developed he needs to own that. At the end of the 2023-24 season he was non/committal and verbally indifferent and the team accommodated him. If he’s upset with what the team has offered, that’s his problem. He has to look out for himself, but the Flames have to look out for the entire organization and fan base. The team has treated him fairly and doesn’t owe him anything other than what they consider to be a market contract.

Years ago I once heard a core Phillies player (baseball) say he was offended by an offer made by the team given his many years of service. I get the sentiment, but that’s not how it works. The smart teams pay players for what they project them to be, not what they were or esoterically mean to an organization. He’s a good player, seems like a good guy, but if he’s walking back on his words or simply not giving any consideration to what his current employer is saying he may be in for a long year, and disappointing summer next year.

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by D as in David

The CBA change provides considerable leverage to Conroy; an 8-year deal vs. a 6-year deal should be a significant difference to both Andersson and Vegas; something that wasn't a factor at the time of Hanifin's trade. I'll assume that Conroy will not be rolling over with at his disposal. If Vegas wants to get him, go elsewhere to acquire something that Calgary will want by trading away something else that has value to another team. If Rasmus wants that 8-year deal, he will have to open up to other teams if Craig holds firm.

A few days of transactions starting tomorrow may make some other teams look more promising to Andersson.

The new CBA doesn't come into effect until Sep 2026. Wouldn't that mean Andersson can still sign a 7 year extension as a UFA next year?

[Beninho]

If he is on the roster on opening night let the boo birds fly

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Now you're moving the goalposts.

You said people that wanted a trade were impatient. Yu were called on it, and now you're saying there are some impatient posters. Of course there are - always. But you should probably let this one go.

Do you want a job?

Maybe you can edit my stuff, and tell me when I should and shouldn't hit send all the time!!!

You can argue with a person without specifically stating they are the ones that are impatient. I said his style was above board because he's always been less whiney.