07-16-2021, 02:09 PM
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#281
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
The contract is going to be bonkers I'm sure, but if we're looking at Darryl's time here as one final push with this group - we need to add, and a big free agent with strong underlying numbers? Well, at least we know we'll have a good hockey player for these next few years. I look at Hyman as the anti-Neal & Brouwer, he's at least a good player getting overpaid. I'd view that as progress from overpaying bad players.
...and the 2nd half of whatever contract is signed, we'll hopefully be rebuilding through anyways.
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Agreed. In for a penny, in for a pound. Spend all the FA money. This is going to be an awful crash and burn at some point but it’s clear the rebuild is not an option with their recent moves. Might as well embrace it now.
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07-16-2021, 02:11 PM
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#282
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by comixzone
the contract is going to be bonkers i'm sure, but if we're looking at darryl's time here as one final push with this group then we need to add, and a big free agent with strong underlying numbers? Well, at least we know we'll have a good hockey player for these next few years. I look at hyman as the anti-neal & brouwer, he's at least a good player getting overpaid. I'd view that as progress from overpaying bad players.
...and the 2nd half of whatever contract is signed? Well, we'll probably be rebuilding through anyways.
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Last edited by 868904; 07-16-2021 at 02:12 PM.
Reason: Nevermind, thought Mangi was due.
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07-16-2021, 02:17 PM
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#283
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Obviously unless someone else gets dealt, Calgary doesn't sign Hyman until after the ED.
If Hyman gets signed and Monahan gets moved for futures, the money is actually relatively unchanged and you could run:
Gaudreau-Lindholm-Hyman
Tkachuk-Backlund-Mangiapane
Lucic-Dube-X
X-X-Ritchie
with Xs maybe including Pelletier, Gawdin, Ruzicka, Phillips, Froese or maybe even Zary
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07-16-2021, 02:31 PM
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#284
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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on the DFO Rundown podcast Seravalli guesses that Hyman will end up in Calgary. Friedman thinks Edmonton
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07-16-2021, 02:37 PM
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#285
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Please lord Edmonton for an absurd salary... Edmonton 7x7 common!
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07-16-2021, 02:40 PM
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#286
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First Line Centre
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I hope we don't price ourselves out of paying eatbread what he's worth. If I'm him and we give Hyman 6.5 to 7, then that's where I go too.
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07-16-2021, 02:41 PM
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#287
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All I can get
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I want the Oilers to pick up Phil Kessel.
Bobby Mac's would have a spokesman!
Last edited by Reggie Dunlop; 07-16-2021 at 02:43 PM.
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07-16-2021, 02:48 PM
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#288
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Joel Armia
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Why in the hell would we want to pay a bottom 6 UFA money to come here? If you think Armia is the answer to the Flames RW woes I don't know what to say...
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07-16-2021, 02:55 PM
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#289
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by iloveicedhockey
I hope we don't price ourselves out of paying eatbread what he's worth. If I'm him and we give Hyman 6.5 to 7, then that's where I go too.
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Mang will be worth it, and then hopefully our top-6 wingers for the next half decade will be:
Gaudreau - Hyman
Mangiapane - Tkachuk
That’d be pretty good.
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07-16-2021, 02:56 PM
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#290
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Franchise Player
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Hyman is a good player...better than what some think IMO
its all about the money though
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07-16-2021, 03:09 PM
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#291
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by looooob
I like Hyman but he's 29 and career high is 21 goals- if teams have cap space he helps many or most teams at 6m /yr on a one or two year deal (the Oilers could use him, he'd make them better) but he's not looking at 2 years, that's my concern
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Mangi has a career high of 32 points and some want to give him the moon
I get the PTSD but for me Hyman is not Neal...Neal did one thing well (until he stopped doing it) Hyman is a pretty complete player IMO
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07-16-2021, 03:34 PM
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#292
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Mangi has a career high of 32 points and some want to give him the moon
I get the PTSD but for me Hyman is not Neal...Neal did one thing well (until he stopped doing it) Hyman is a pretty complete player IMO
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Hyman has a similar smell to the Brouwer signing.
Similar age
Complete player
18-20 goal guy
35-40 points
Don't like it. Feels like another buyout candidate.
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07-16-2021, 03:41 PM
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#293
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by theslymonkey
Hyman has a similar smell to the Brouwer signing.
Similar age
Complete player
18-20 goal guy
35-40 points
Don't like it. Feels like another buyout candidate.
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Hyman is younger and his analytics are quite a bit stronger, but certainly if you sign him for 5+ years, the expectation is likely that you will be buying him out at some point.
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07-16-2021, 03:43 PM
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#294
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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And he hasn’t won yet. Hungry.
More hungry players please. No more “been there done that”
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07-16-2021, 03:52 PM
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#295
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
Mangi has a career high of 32 points and some want to give him the moon
I get the PTSD but for me Hyman is not Neal...Neal did one thing well (until he stopped doing it) Hyman is a pretty complete player IMO
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well I'm not sure what size of moon people want to give Mangiapane but he's 4 years younger than Hyman- so the anxiety of the back half of the deal is different if you are talking 7 years with both guys
I actually like Hyman as a player and have already conceded he makes any team better on the front half of any deal being suggested. clearly he's a different player than Neal
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07-16-2021, 03:53 PM
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#296
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Franchise Player
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Hyman reminds me of Hagman.
It scares me because they both appear(ed) to be a product of better line mates who the media overhyped because they were in Toronto.
Hagman was 30 when the Flames acquired him, Hyman is 29.
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07-16-2021, 03:58 PM
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#297
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Calgary
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In before Hyman takes less money to come to Calgary instead of Edmonton.
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07-16-2021, 04:01 PM
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#298
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theslymonkey
Hyman has a similar smell to the Brouwer signing.
Similar age
Complete player
18-20 goal guy
35-40 points
Don't like it. Feels like another buyout candidate.
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Huge change in underlying numbers though.
Honestly I don't know how the Flames just looked by the sub 50's on Brouwer and thought he'd be a good idea. Have to think Snow was ignored.
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07-16-2021, 04:03 PM
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#299
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theslymonkey
Hyman has a similar smell to the Brouwer signing.
Similar age
Complete player
18-20 goal guy
35-40 points
Don't like it. Feels like another buyout candidate.
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Hyman has much better wheels, no? Which is something this team needs.
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07-16-2021, 04:04 PM
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#300
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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If Hall is going to the market then I think that is who the Flames need to chase. We need that high end skill more than what Hyman brings. He is a much better fit with Edmonton anyway as he is proven to be a nice complimentary player for superstars. Edmonton has those and Calgary does not. We need more star players and I think getting Hall on a 5 year 6M per deal is worth it
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