[PGT] Annnnnd..... cut! Flames allow seven unanswered, lose 7-3. Season over.

[badradio]

Eric Francis said Ward will be back as head coach and Johnny gone... So I assume Ward is gone and Johnny will be back... If Ward is back I don’t think I can watch...

[zamler]

I unfortunately watched the entire game I never at any point thought, oh look an equipment issue. I guess it's possible but sounds like made up BS to try and excuse the massive blunder of monumental proportions.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I get that they have to be nice because they deal with these people daily but they also have reputations and credibility they risk by acting this way.

And when I say they risk I mean- I think it’s shot at this point. Nothing they say matters. It’s like reading dinoc7 or whatever’s posts on here. Irrelevantly biased. Waiting for the look in the mirror rebuttal but in advance- I don’t care and I’m right and most importantly I don’t want to be right about this team. They have let me down enough. You don’t get to not care 95% of the time and then just expect the fans to continually care for you floating around.

Blow it up. That is something I would look forward to.

WTF...I have said the team was poor for most of the series except tonight where they were good and the goalie was bad

I am looking for major changes

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

He was saying that people don’t appreciate or understand how difficult life had been in the bubble. Was trying to justify the terrible start for his team and the subsequent meltdown by the Flames.

Actually... I bet life has been a ####ing cake walk for these guys compared to the average Joe out here lol. Talk about detached from reality.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I get that they have to be nice because they deal with these people daily but they also have reputations and credibility they risk by acting this way.

And when I say they risk I mean- I think it’s shot at this point. Nothing they say matters. It’s like reading dinoc7 or whatever’s posts on here. Irrelevantly biased. Waiting for the look in the mirror rebuttal but in advance- I don’t care and I’m right and most importantly I don’t want to be right about this team. They have let me down enough. You don’t get to not care 95% of the time and then just expect the fans to continually care for you floating around.

Blow it up. That is something I would look forward to.

Yes. These people are team employees and doing their job.

They are not buddies paid to give truly objective opinions

[Geeoff]

Originally Posted by Dion

Do you know for a fact he lied?

Talbot's interview completely contradicts Ward's

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by IrishSpring2013

Don't forget not turning two pending UFA Ds into anything last summer. Brodie deal falls through and nothing else happens until Hamonic hurts himself then it's too late.

Just brutal asset management

I agree but they were trying to move either Brodie or Hamonic, then they did move Brodie but Kadri nixed it with his NTC, then Valimaki suffered a season ending injury which changed things.

[agulati]

It’s been a rough season for the team. With Bill Peters situation, Brodie issue, Chris Snow’s diagnosis and Ken King passing away. Not excuses, just been a rough season.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

That’s BS and he’s trying to cover his own butt IMO.

He clearly made the emotional decision to pull Talbot since he thought it was a bad goal. Wasn’t some master plan to put him back in.

And even it that was the plan it was a stupid one, as the three soft goals on Rittich would indicate, or he should have told Talbot the plan before he went down the tunnel.

He could have ignored the question from Francis. It was dick question to put Ward on the hot seat and I thought he gave a good accounting.

Then again he could have pulled a Torts and walked out on questions.

[flames_fan_down_under]

Originally Posted by Itse

I feel bad for Talbot and Rittich

I don't feel bad for any of the Flames, they deserved to lose.

I feel bad for all of us Flames fans who have been fed a mediocre product for decades! The Vegas Golden Knights have been around for 3 seasons and have made the playoffs every year and will now officially be in the second round of the playoffs (twice) more times than the Flames have been in the last 16 seasons! What an embarrassing time to be Brad Treliving when a team that wasn't even in existence when you were hired has vastly outperformed the team that you are running. Honestly Treliving, Ward, Conroy, everyone, has to go. There needs to be a complete change in organizational philosophy. No more Rinaldos, Lucic's, Hunter Smiths, etc. We're slow in areas where we need to be fast, small in areas where we need to be big, old in areas where we need to be young; we went from a players coach with no track record of success, to hard ass coach with no track record of success, to an assistant coach with no head coaching experience. No more Brian Burke type guys overseeing the hiring of our next GM. Start fresh.

[SuperMatt18]

I wonder what was said in that dressing room between the second and third.

Doesn’t sound like the coach and the players were on the same page reading between the lines on some of the players comments on the Talbot pull, and the fact that there is now conflicting information between what Ward and Talbot said.

[Classic_Sniper]

Just a fitting ending to an incredibly frustrating and baffling era for this organization. Flames finally get a good performance for the team and the team goaltending blows it. A veteran with a Stanley Cup ring blows it for the team with turning point of the game. I have no words to describe what transpired tonight or in this series.

Really, there are no words to describe the last 2 playoff series (not Winnipeg). Blown leads, failed execution, thoroughly outplayed, reliance on great goaltending, star players outplayed badly and on and on and on. Big changes will be made and deservingly so. All the promise of 2015, goes up in smoke without much to show up for.

[zamler]

What in the #### is this being in the hardship bubble talk? WHAT???????? Jebus jumping frogs on a stick there are so many people that have lost their jobs, their businesses, or even their lives. And these clowns are on about hardship?

[flamingred89]

The equipment thing is absolutely laughable. This is the
Pros where they skate over to replace skate blades in seconds. Could probably snap their fingers to get one of their multiple sets of pads to put on. We’ve seen goalies take bathroom breaks and come back next whistle. Yet something miraculously happened after 2 bad goals to elicit an unrepairable equipment issue?? Cmon.

[blender]

Agree. My comments earlier about the big leagues stand.
Ward made a bad decision. He's not head coach material.
Talbot had a bad game at a time when you CANNOT have a bad game. He's not starter material.
As fans we have to live with the emotions of it but players and coaches need accountability.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by united

This is exactly where I stand. Look, I'm not opposed to moving Gaudreau - and maybe you have to. But moving him likely leaves you in the same spot or marginally improves the team.

You can win the Cup with Monahan as your #1 C, but there's maybe five wingers in the league good enough to make up for his lackluster two-way play. (Ovechkin, Panarin, Kucherov, Stone come to mind).

Conversely, there's probably 20 centres in the league good enough defensively to carry Gaudreau to a Cup. Add in a centre who can actually transition the puck and Gaudreau is touching 1.25 points-per-game easily.

Horribly difficult spot for the Flames to be in which is crushing as a fan.

This really can’t be better said.

With few tradeable assets with which to improve the team, they likely find themselves trading Gaudreau. And i said it elsewhere but more likely he wins a Cup elsewhere than Flames win without him.

Now we’re entering an off-season where the GM has to try and fix everything. Coach, goalie, all the UFA’s on the back end and a forward group not good enough. No prospects ready to help save Valimaki.

And you’ve not banked any goodwill from a run of success.

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by dino7c

If you would read people are only blaming goal tending for THIS game...that being said none of those goalies are #1 goalies

You can upgrade in more than one area

What is the one consistent aspect of all these teams that played in front of these goalies? 7 goalies in total. The CORE. If management hasn't learned you can't win in the playoffs with you're top forwards being Monahan and Gaudreau, top D pairing being Gio and Brodie, we as Flames fans are ****ed.

I sincerely believe ownership needs to take a long look in the mirror and start making some cultural changes. The acceptance of mediocrity needs to change. 30 years, they've been past rd 1 twice, TWICE. That is so pitiful i have no words.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Geeoff

Talbot's interview completely contradicts Ward's

I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Talbot took the loss on his shoulders and said he played bad and had to have Gio says he wasn't and that there was some unlucky deflections.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Didn't someone post in the GT that Talbot took his gear off after being pulled? Maybe Ward isn't wrong, that he wanted Talbot back in but Talbot wasn't dressed.

well wouldnt you tell Talbot that then? you know something along the lines of 'dont go far kid I'm putting you back in'

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Do you read her articles?
Even if she is bad there are lots of bad reporters
So making it about diversity when it’s a women seems...well fill in the blanks

All I’m asking is why does she have a job... it is evident (every player is dumbfounded by every single question she asks And defaults to a routine hockey player response, because they are bad questions) that she is the least talented reporter in any flames media scrum, and that’s saying something with Wills in there, but sure me suggesting she keeps her role because the flames want a female presence is me being an #######. Honestly read an article of hers or read a transcript of her questions without knowing it is her and tell me that you think the person who wrote it deserves to be employed on merit alone.