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Old 09-02-2005, 11:43 AM   #281
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Here's a post made by a FEMA worker from another forum. My dad's been in NOLA before and said the people there are the lowest of the low and he's really not suprised by the way they're acting. This post is quite shocking.

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Three days of hell was what it was. Temps in the high 90's with high humidity. All great intentions where immediately meet with hostility. First day traveling from Baton Rouge to Gulf Port was hard. We where stopped numerous times by people blocking the road and demanding to be brought out of the area. Or asking for food or water. A few rocks where thrown at the convoy in certain areas. The sound of rocks hitting the van just made my dog passed and the people inside uneasy.

The dead where ramped the people just trying to get to dry areas sat like rats after a storm drain flood on anything they could keep dry on. The roads where real bad and we had to boat it then get picked up by others. What made this an unattainable task was COMMUNICATION. Getting in touch with others without satellite phones where impossible. Seen so much looting that you didn't even take notice after a while. Even if you wanted to you could do nothing about it. There where that many looters. We came across an apartment building for assisted living adults that had a fire on the upper floors and had to evacuate them. We then had no way of transporting those people. Had to leave them there on the street. Night fall came and the constant shoots where heard. Some far away Some close. [dog] is trained to turn on to gun fire so it was a sleepless night. We slept outside the trucks to protect ourselves from anything that may have come out of the darkness.

My team was made out of three suburbans, and two 12 pass. vans. We had three sheriffs with small arms and one M-16 for protection. This was not enough for what the nigh had. Fires where seen all over the area at night. Sunrise could not come to early for us. we reported the going ons back to IC and was told it was all isolated incidents. Yeah right. We where in the field they where back in a nice safe area.

Day two we got into gulf port and the devastation was beyond belief we assisted helio evacs of people and tried to assist any trapped people we came across. I came across an old white man in a second floor room in a house that had diabetes. He was bed ridden. He flipped a little when [dog] went into room when we where checking the house. He threw his bed pan filled with pass at [dog]. Great now I poured my water ration on him and cleaned him with some saline solution. I had to carry the guy down the stairs. He had **** in his pajamas. He cried when they cleaned him up and thanks us and apologized for getting scared when he seen [dog]. He said he though [dog] was a wild dog and came to feed on him. The Coast Guard fly boys picked him up. :up:

We continued on checking debris and houses for trapped people. All the time people asking us for supplies. information we had no answers to. Everyone wanting help. But help they could do themselves. We where there for the ones that can't help themselves. The trapped, sick, or medical attention people. The people that had no physical problems where told to make it out and head north where trucks with supplies could not get in do the flooding. Got back to the trucks just before sunset. AND FOUND MY PERSONAL DOG BAG MISSING. Bitches stole [dog]' supplies and his my personal ****. Lost $1400 bucks in that bag INCLUDING MY CAMERA. Now I have a problem no food for the dog. His water supply his hygiene and medical supplies are gone. This passed me the **** off and started looking at these people in a whole new light.

That night we had more of the same ****. People coming out of the darkness looking for food and water. I was giving [dog] my food and water so I had nothing to offer. One ****ing ***** saw me feed [dog] a can of tuna fish and said that animals don't eat before people. I said you want it you take it form him. Just then some gun fire went off real close by. It was DARK. Didn't know who shot or at what. I tackled the guy and [dog] came in for the bite but he was tied up and could reach the guy. One of the Chris one of the sheriff officers came and pulled the guy up and separated us. He was passed but I didn't know if he was armed and was acting irrational enough to warrant his take down. The sheriff patted him down and sent his on his way as [dog] kept drooling for the bite.

Now it is on. About four something AM [dog] lets out a grumble as I lay slightly asleep against the van wheel. Several black guys two with shot guns the rest had side arms came out of the darkness. The Sheriff gave then some water and toilet paper. They asked what food we had and took three jars of peanut butter. And walked off in the darkness. The sheriffs later said we are not going to get into a fire fight that we could not win. Day light came and they decided things are way out of hand and we report back. On the way back we meet up with four Nation guards in a six wheeler. They said they are going to escort us out. We came across this town that had cars blocking the road. I was in the fourth vehicle looking out at why we stopped. Two of the Guards men got out to move the unoccupied vehicles. No keys so the six wheeler moved them. As we where pulling away shots hit the six wheeler the second vehicle and the last vehicle. Two of the guards men returned fire shooting high in the air as we floored it out of there.


**** THESE PEOPLE. I am sitting here unarmed nothing to do but lay low. We are in FEMA marked vehicles and these ****s are shooting at us. I want to drive but they won't let me. If I was driving I would run most of the ****s in the street down. I am so passed at the people down there that I hope they all ****ing die.

One thing about other disasters I have seen is that people cam together and helped each other. There where isolated acts of kindness but on the most part what I seen was something out of a war scene. Not sure if this si a southern Black thing but I will not go back and help them. As far as I am concerned let the floating corpse feed these ****s. Let then drink the disease stagnate water and die a slow death.

Those where not people those where something subhuman form the bellows of the earth. Someone wrote on another thread that these people are Suppressed. Yeah I would suppress them with motor fire. I hope our state guys fire on these ****s and **** them into the swamps where the alligators can eat their asses.

It is going to take me some time to forget what asses those people where. They ****ed me and I owe them one.


God bless the militarty boys going in to clean up the rats.
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:51 AM   #282
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If 10% of that post is true, NO is fataed.
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Old 09-02-2005, 11:53 AM   #283
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An amazing post Josh.

A story on the ethics of looting with the situation, near the end of the story, reduced to what analysts call "the state of nature."

http://tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl...theme=HURRICANE

Also, Celine Dion donates $1 million to the American Red Cross.

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Old 09-02-2005, 12:01 PM   #284
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Looting, fine. But raping? Not only of adults, but of children? Sniping innocent people from roof tops? I don't get some people.
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:04 PM   #285
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More about the FEMA worker who posted. If you make a guy like this say something like that, you know how dire the situation really is.

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the guy was at ground zero at the world trade center on day one. He pulled 12 people out that day. He is a first on scene guy. He said he was crawling on his stomach through the rubble of the trade center in the dark calling out to people while the building was on fire and collapsing. Lost his dog to that one which he really took bad.

he's a really good guy
Also I was listening to live streams of police scanners last night, things in NOLA are way worse than the media is making it out to be
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:15 PM   #286
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These people have really proven that they are the cockroach scum of the earth.

I feel bad for the good people who have not only had to deal with this natural disaster but have also had to deal with these looting/raping/pillaging savages.
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:39 PM   #287
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My heart goes out to the people of New Orleans.

I can't even fathom the level of devestation that they are dealing with at this point.

I can only hope that those who are going to die because of this disaster go quickly and with as little pain as possible because there will probably be thousands more that will perish.

I hope that those causing terror and pain in the aftermath are karmically rewarded someday.
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:55 PM   #288
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Poverty and a 300 year history of oppression and violence will do wonders.

These people don't know any better.
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Old 09-02-2005, 01:02 PM   #289
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Originally posted by Hakan@Sep 2 2005, 06:55 PM
Poverty and a 300 year history of oppression and violence will do wonders.

These people don't know any better.
Poverty and opression be damned, it's no justification for Rape and Murder. How can anyone seriously claim to not know better.
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Old 09-02-2005, 01:34 PM   #290
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Read the Wretched of the Earth by Franz Fanon. It's a good primer to what histories of violence and oppression will do to a culture and society.
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Old 09-02-2005, 01:55 PM   #291
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Read the Wretched of the Earth by Franz Fanon. It's a good primer to what histories of violence and oppression will do to a culture and society.
Funny thing is, if Calgary or Vancouver or Toronto were to be in the exact same situation, I wouldn't be shocked at all if there were people doing the exact same things to each other. And this is all without any history of violence or repression in the Canadian cities.
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Old 09-02-2005, 01:58 PM   #292
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Speaknig honestly, If this happened in CGY I can garuntee you I would be the first guy down there lotting food, TV's I don't know, butt it's not like it matters. The cost is minimal and it's going to be destroyed anyways. Plus if you've lost everything else why the hell can't you get a TV, who cares?
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Old 09-02-2005, 02:00 PM   #293
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No that would not happen here.

How can anyone excuse rape and murder? They don't know any better? That is the most pathetic excuse I have ever heard.

If someone killed one of your family members would you accept "they didn't know any better" as a valid plea?
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Old 09-02-2005, 02:01 PM   #294
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Michael Moore chimes in. He may be fat but he has a point. Typical Bush.
http://www.alternet.org/story/24971/

I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in the dike?

And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!
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Old 09-02-2005, 02:08 PM   #295
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Speaknig honestly, If this happened in CGY I can garuntee you I would be the first guy down there lotting food, TV's I don't know, butt it's not like it matters. The cost is minimal and it's going to be destroyed anyways. Plus if you've lost everything else why the hell can't you get a TV, who cares?
Stop arguing for Christianity in the other thread ya hypocrite. :angry:
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Now I'm certainly not one to mess with Texas, but 23 million people live there and they can't find room for 20 thousand "refugees" from their own country? I don't get it. I thought they were "good Christian people" down there but I don't see much good Christian behavior.

Maybe I'm missing it and maybe they just aren't reporting it, but you'd think there would be some sort of effort to bring of these stranded people into homes and churches instead of having thousands and thousands of people living like dogs in the old baseball stadium.
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Originally posted by peter12+Sep 2 2005, 01:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (peter12 @ Sep 2 2005, 01:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Flaming Homer@Sep 2 2005, 01:58 PM
Speaknig honestly, If this happened in CGY I can garuntee you I would be the first guy down there lotting food, TV's I don't know, butt it's not like it matters. The cost is minimal and it's going to be destroyed anyways. Plus if you've lost everything else why the hell can't you get a TV, who cares?
Stop arguing for Christianity in the other thread ya hypocrite. :angry: [/b][/quote]
I never argued for christianity, I argued that the science backers were being to critical on the religious people. How is taking food so you can survive a sin anyways? If it was for no reason I could understand, but food to survive?
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Now I'm certainly not one to mess with Texas, but 23 million people live there and they can't find room for 20 thousand "refugees" from their own country? I don't get it. I thought they were "good Christian people" down there but I don't see much good Christian behavior.

Maybe I'm missing it and maybe they just aren't reporting it, but you'd think there would be some sort of effort to bring of these stranded people into homes and churches instead of having thousands and thousands of people living like dogs in the old baseball stadium.
Could it be

Texas=Mainly white redneckish people NO= 68% black

Texas+NO= trouble
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Old 09-02-2005, 02:23 PM   #299
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should preface this by saying i've never been to new orleans.

are people really that surprised at the turn of events? why so?

for decades martis gras has been where suburban tourists turn to jackal morality for a little while, then go back to the burbs. new orleans has always been a haven for gambling, prostitution, drugs, showing the sailors a good time. this has a backbite - large segments of the population being drug dealers, bookies, etc.

this isn't the hamptons, this is the byproduct of people economically contributing to an infamous and unique culture of crime.

wake up, suburban america - it's not the 'black people thing', it's that gram of coke you did out of a hooker's ass last february!
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Looters beware! Ugly woman inside. hehehe


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