[News] Flames qualify 6 RFAs. Byron, Galiardi, Eddy, Martin, Roy do NOT receive offers

[AC]

Originally Posted by Drury18

So today was the deadline for the RFA's to accept and sign their qualifying offers.

Haven't heard anything about Bouma, Ortio or Cundari signing. I guess they want to negotiate something better.

Darren Haynes ‏@DarrenWHaynes
As a refresher, here's when some #Flames RFAs finally signed last year:
Breen, July 17
Cundari, July 18
Bouma/Byron, July 20
Brodie, July 31

[Drury18]

Bouma could be given an offer sheet by the Kings, but he still remains Flames property and they can match that offer.

The rejection of the qualifying offer just means they don't accept the first Flames offer. They still remain RFA's tied to the Flames and Flames will have final say if they are moved to another team.

Usually it's a money thing. Reject the first offer, negotiate more with the Flames and then sign a deal a little later. If they can't work something out, then you could see the Flames trade them much like how we acquired Corban Knight last year.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by MuscleOnTheBlvd

I can see Lance Bouma getting a good offer, maybe from the Kings?

At this point I'm fine with Brad Treliving shaping the team the way he wants even if it means favorites like Bouma signing elsewhere.

The Flames still retain Bouma's rights if he doesn't accept the QO.

Only way for another team to sign him is to offer sheet him and no GM is going to offer sheet Lance fricking Bouma.

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

How does this work then? RFA until August 15th or arbitration? Or do they have arbitration coming?

RFA until they are 27 or we trade their rights.

If they don't sign with a team by December 1st, they will not play in the NHL this year.

Arbitration deadline has passed. They will have to negotiate with the Flames and come to an agreement. Or ask for a trade.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

How does this work then? RFA until August 15th or arbitration? Or do they have arbitration coming?

Too late to file for arbitration, even if they had arbitration rights.

Only options are

1. Sign with the Flames.
2. Sign an offer sheet with another NHL team which the Flames have the option to match.
3. Go play in Europe.

[Street Pharmacist]

And this is petty common I'd imagine?

[Drury18]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

And this is petty common I'd imagine?

Very.

I believe all teams have at least have one player who did not sign. Some up to 5 players.

[MuscleOnTheBlvd]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

The Flames still retain Bouma's rights if he doesn't accept the QO.

Only way for another team to sign him is to offer sheet him and no GM is going to offer sheet Lance fricking Bouma.

He's a very good depth player plus the Flames have a few prospects on center and left wing.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by MuscleOnTheBlvd

He's a very good depth player plus the Flames have a few prospects on center and left wing.

1. An offer sheet on a depth player is unheard of.
2. The Flames have plenty of cap space to match any reasonable deal for Bouma.
3.
this is what teams have to give up if the Flames decide not to match an offer sheet for Bouma


even in giving up a 3rd round pick you are arguably overpaying Bouma for his services. Flames still probably match on principle.
Flames probably start thinking about not matching in the 2nd round pick range, but what GM is going to give up a 2nd for an overpaid Bouma?


any NHL team signing Bouma to an offer sheet is an exercise in futility

[MarkGio]

^^ Is that this year's compensation chart, Sureloss?

[Read Only]

Originally Posted by MuscleOnTheBlvd

I can see Lance Bouma getting a good offer, maybe from the Kings?

At this point I'm fine with Brad Treliving shaping the team the way he wants even if it means favorites like Bouma signing elsewhere.

Williams-Kopitar-Gaborik
Toffoli-Carter-Pearson
Brown-Stoll-Lewis
King-Richards-Clifford
Nolan

Where exactly does Bouma fit in that line-up?

The Kings have 1.5 million in cap space this year and RFAs due raises next year.

How do they come close to making an offer the Flames don't match in 5 seconds?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by MarkGio

^^ Is that this year's compensation chart, Sureloss?

i believe it is

[Coach]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

1. An offer sheet on a depth player is unheard of.
2. The Flames have plenty of cap space to match any reasonable deal for Bouma.
3.
this is what teams have to give up if the Flames decide not to match an offer sheet for Bouma


even in giving up a 3rd round pick you are arguably overpaying Bouma for his services. Flames still probably match on principle.
Flames probably start thinking about not matching in the 2nd round pick range, but what GM is going to give up a 2nd for an overpaid Bouma?

any NHL team signing Bouma to an offer sheet is an exercise in futility

Sounds like a move MacT is destined to make. $3.5 for our buddy Lance, Mac.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Oh summer, the time when paranoid fans get worried we won't sign our RFAs. But we always do, just not right away.

[StrykerSteve]

Wes Gilbertson ‏@SUNGilbertson 9m Chatted with #Flames RW Joe Colborne today. Not surprisingly, hoping to hammer out a contract before his Aug. 1 arbitration date.

Wes Gilbertson ‏@SUNGilbertson 8m
#Flames Joe Colborne: "I really want to be part of this team and I know they really like me, so it makes negotiations a lot easier."